george_on_the_outer

Welcome to the world of accounting....unless you see the actual book entries, you will never see the whole story. It will never be in the accounts, but the possible advantages could be: * rental at less than market rates for the administration offices. * financial support directly from the MCC, but this would be hard to find in their accounts as well * utilities costs? * provision of superbox at the MCG, at cost? * advertising material inserted into MCC membership renewals The pity is that the MCC has not provided enough to the MFC through its 160+ years of existence. We don't have a training base because the MCC only rented places like the Junction oval instead of putting up the money for a permanent facility. Ground advertising went to the MCC for MFC home games for years. Perhaps they can be "encouraged" to contribute to a future training and home base facility.

Apparently 30% of staff were made redundant as well...

That one line explains everything that has been claimed. The Bentleigh club had not been revalued for years ( and should have been). We have been drawing down on the sale proceeds from the Leighoak club for 2 years now. While this past year has been difficult, in terms of operational cash flow, all that has been happening is we are selling assets. Importantly, although the sale of Leighoak was fortuitous in terms of COVID since Poker machine venues couldn't operate, we have not replaced the $1M per year of profit that it provided. Revaluation of Bentleigh, doesn't put any more food on the table. The sooner it is sold so that either the money can be invested to provide decent long term income or directed toward a training base, the better.

Importantly we haven't been shafted by the AFL in terms of the home games against Richmond and Collingwood. These are huge earners for the club, as the home side. Post covid ( let's hope it has been suppressed by then) it is important that we get back on our feet financially.

While we have been over and over this in numerous threads....I have to agree. Why weren't we involved with the redevelopment at Caulfield racecourse? More room than Goschs/AAMI. Local clubs involved. Middle of Demon heartland.....I could go on, but as you said we have hitched to a different wagon.

Yes....from Demonwiki: http://demonwiki.org/Roy+Park "After his football career ended Park threw himself into a cricket career and earned a test call-up for Australia against England at the MCG during the 1920-21. He was dismissed for a golden duck in his first innings and urban legend has it that his wife dropped her knitting as he faced his first ball and therefore missed his entire test batting career. "

And the wheel turns. Melbourne Heart started with Casey Fields as their training base way back when...then they became Melbourne City...off to Latrobe - Bundoora, and now back to Casey...... Pity we couldn't convince Victory to move out of AAMI instead.......

How has the soft cap reduction affected the recruiting team?

Pre-draft interview on "Talent talk with Brendan and Greg" Brendan is talent identification at Oakleigh Chargers and Director of football Caulfield Grammar ( and a Melbourne supporter) Episode 3 Sep 28th. https://www.facebook.com/TalentTalkAFL/videos/3597189523626919/

Check out the date of Leoncelli's post first....

Unless a side relocates, the finances just don't add up. They want access to the AFL $12M distribution, their Government to tip in $8M, but where does the rest of the $40-50M per year needed to run an AFL club come from? It isn't memberships, that barely scrapes together a couple of million for any club. Sponsorship is a major input, but it needs a bucketload to still get to the break-even point. The AFL is subsidising GWS / GC to the tune of $30M each per year. And they are doing that to "create" television time, that the networks are prepared to pay. Even they cannot afford another money drain, which wouldn't create more air time to sell ( you need two teams for that). North is already half way there. That is probably the best chance for the Tasmanians. Especially if their government swings the support money to them instead of splitting it with Hawthorn.

Carlisle, Frawley and Nathan Brown as the Saints defence! I thought Geelong had a problem with zimmer frames crowding the players race.

Buddy Franklin the same.

Need to have muscles to drive those things. No brakes and a horrible weight distribution with the big lump of iron hanging out the front. Beautiful to look at though.

There would already be 6 players in the 50 area who can't leave if the ball is outside, he would be the 7th, so the situation would not arise. It would be even easier if a line was drawn down the middle and each side had to have at least (pick a number) of players in either half. Could be administered by the emergency boundary umpire.

Players get fatigued playing AFL. They always have, they do today. In the past players had to play 100 minutes, with no rotations. The game is not a sprint it is a marathon. Players coped by pacing themselves. Just like all sports. Robert Harvey is quoted as saying he could always run his opponent into the ground in the last quarter, because of his endurance. Less rotations will see the better players excel in the latter stages of the game. So for Danger to suggest players will get injured because they are fatigued, doesn't face up to the reality of competitive sport.

We tried to trade TMac out. No takers...so how do you move him on then? The list management dilemma is: is M.Brown probably better than pick 69 in a compromised draft? Because that is what becomes the option if we were to delist him. We have certainty about Brown, not about such a low pick, and if that pick fails, we have to keep him on the list for 2 years.

Danger complaining about the reduction in rotations https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/11/18/patrick-dangerfield-not-particularly-a-fan-of-afl-rule-change/ ....we know why....the older players will struggle to keep up....which team has the oldest players as a group? How did players cope when there was only a 19 and 20th man?

And now $16M for St.Kilda on top of the bucketloads they have received to re-develop Moorabbin: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/danny-frawleys-legacy-spurs-16m-centre/news-story/0640a1198930b63f1ba67f6a8c5a938c

This is a link to Bailey Laurie on "Talent Talk" facebook https://www.facebook.com/TalentTalkAFL/ His feature Episode 3 was posted on September 28, so you need to scroll through to that. Brendan, one of thethe presenters, works for both Oakleigh and Caulfield, so has some insight into the kid.

If Beames was playing they would have exactly the same problem. All self-inflicted incompetence managing their salary cap.

Won't tackle, won't contest overhead, doesn't pressure....what does he bring other than getting cheapies out the back?

Because cricket is played there for 6 months of the year. It is not 1964 any more when training consisted of a weekly run on a Thursday night and little if any pre-season. AFL is a full time year round operation today.

Game saving tackles in the last minutes of the Essendon and GWS games. Knows when to go and puts it on the line when needed.

We can't get too tied up in knots with what Geelong is getting. They are a marginal electorate federally and at State level, so they will get the oil for the squeaky wheel. The promising sign is what was written about the matter in The Age: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/gmhba-stadium-to-reach-40-000-capacity-after-funding-boost-20201107-p56ce8.html "The decision will be encouraging for several AFL clubs with applications for infrastructure project funding pending with the state government as they look to rebound from a tough year hampered by the COVID-19 restrictions". i.e Geelong won't be the only ones, and given that we have been in the State Governments ear for years, and have a plan ready for shovels, we should also be in for funding. Let's hope it happens soon.