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Pre-draft interview on "Talent talk with Brendan and Greg" Brendan is talent identification at Oakleigh Chargers and Director of football Caulfield Grammar ( and a Melbourne supporter) Episode 3 Sep 28th. https://www.facebook.com/TalentTalkAFL/videos/3597189523626919/

Check out the date of Leoncelli's post first....

Unless a side relocates, the finances just don't add up. They want access to the AFL $12M distribution, their Government to tip in $8M, but where does the rest of the $40-50M per year needed to run an AFL club come from? It isn't memberships, that barely scrapes together a couple of million for any club. Sponsorship is a major input, but it needs a bucketload to still get to the break-even point. The AFL is subsidising GWS / GC to the tune of $30M each per year. And they are doing that to "create" television time, that the networks are prepared to pay. Even they cannot afford another money drain, which wouldn't create more air time to sell ( you need two teams for that). North is already half way there. That is probably the best chance for the Tasmanians. Especially if their government swings the support money to them instead of splitting it with Hawthorn.

Carlisle, Frawley and Nathan Brown as the Saints defence! I thought Geelong had a problem with zimmer frames crowding the players race.

Buddy Franklin the same.

Need to have muscles to drive those things. No brakes and a horrible weight distribution with the big lump of iron hanging out the front. Beautiful to look at though.

There would already be 6 players in the 50 area who can't leave if the ball is outside, he would be the 7th, so the situation would not arise. It would be even easier if a line was drawn down the middle and each side had to have at least (pick a number) of players in either half. Could be administered by the emergency boundary umpire.

Players get fatigued playing AFL. They always have, they do today. In the past players had to play 100 minutes, with no rotations. The game is not a sprint it is a marathon. Players coped by pacing themselves. Just like all sports. Robert Harvey is quoted as saying he could always run his opponent into the ground in the last quarter, because of his endurance. Less rotations will see the better players excel in the latter stages of the game. So for Danger to suggest players will get injured because they are fatigued, doesn't face up to the reality of competitive sport.

We tried to trade TMac out. No takers...so how do you move him on then? The list management dilemma is: is M.Brown probably better than pick 69 in a compromised draft? Because that is what becomes the option if we were to delist him. We have certainty about Brown, not about such a low pick, and if that pick fails, we have to keep him on the list for 2 years.

Danger complaining about the reduction in rotations https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/11/18/patrick-dangerfield-not-particularly-a-fan-of-afl-rule-change/ ....we know why....the older players will struggle to keep up....which team has the oldest players as a group? How did players cope when there was only a 19 and 20th man?

And now $16M for St.Kilda on top of the bucketloads they have received to re-develop Moorabbin: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/danny-frawleys-legacy-spurs-16m-centre/news-story/0640a1198930b63f1ba67f6a8c5a938c

This is a link to Bailey Laurie on "Talent Talk" facebook https://www.facebook.com/TalentTalkAFL/ His feature Episode 3 was posted on September 28, so you need to scroll through to that. Brendan, one of thethe presenters, works for both Oakleigh and Caulfield, so has some insight into the kid.

If Beames was playing they would have exactly the same problem. All self-inflicted incompetence managing their salary cap.

Won't tackle, won't contest overhead, doesn't pressure....what does he bring other than getting cheapies out the back?

Because cricket is played there for 6 months of the year. It is not 1964 any more when training consisted of a weekly run on a Thursday night and little if any pre-season. AFL is a full time year round operation today.

Game saving tackles in the last minutes of the Essendon and GWS games. Knows when to go and puts it on the line when needed.

We can't get too tied up in knots with what Geelong is getting. They are a marginal electorate federally and at State level, so they will get the oil for the squeaky wheel. The promising sign is what was written about the matter in The Age: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/gmhba-stadium-to-reach-40-000-capacity-after-funding-boost-20201107-p56ce8.html "The decision will be encouraging for several AFL clubs with applications for infrastructure project funding pending with the state government as they look to rebound from a tough year hampered by the COVID-19 restrictions". i.e Geelong won't be the only ones, and given that we have been in the State Governments ear for years, and have a plan ready for shovels, we should also be in for funding. Let's hope it happens soon.

Delisted twice! Can't get a game ahead of Draper who has the grand total of 8 games. Bellchambers retired and still Essendon delisted him.!

Lucifers Hero explained this in another thread. Top picks ( first round mainly) are diluted by NGA picks. e.g Bulldogs will nominate Ugle-Hagen, but have to use points from their lower round picks. The picks for other clubs are further being diluted by FA compensation picks being slotted in. i.e Essendon has already got pick 7...everyone below that has been moved down 1 already. So say starting with pick 9 in an uncompromised draft, you could finish with a player who would ordinarily be pick 15! ( example only) However, a pick in the 30's or 40's will become more valuable because clubs like the Bulldogs will have to use their 2nd and 3rd round picks to get the points necessary for the NGA players they want i.e pick 45 may become pick 38. ( example only) At the end of the day, first round picks are not something we need to be seeking to trade into this year.

Yes....this is what Club culture is all about. He will get games if he is good enough, if not we haven't shoved a leader out the door like we did with Junior.

Even if the Pies pay $200k that still leaves $700K for a club to find to pay him. If you pick up a player with that sort of financial poison pill attached, how to we find the money to pay Gawn, Oliver and Jackson next year to extend their contracts?

If the article is correct and they are paying him $900K for 5 years, then there would be few suitors. And while the article suggests Collingwood will pay $200K of that, it will still be too big a pill for most clubs to swallow. Besides...why help them out with their salary cap problems, of their own making?

Not a defender

If you stick to the Sherrin, you probably don't have to ditch the others regardless.

Great Great summary LG. Shows why early round draft picks this year are severely compromised. Also don't forget Free agent compensation which can further devalue a clubs position. Essendon lose Daniher, GWS Cameron etc. and your first or second round pick drops again. Then Gold Coast still have a compensation pick mid first round, another place drop for teams after that.