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i guess with higgins out a larger priority for them because they owe the player more for what he's given them and teh false hope they gave him last year. they'd rather he left (salary cant be an issue for north) and they need some bodies about to lead by example and take pressure off all the kids. but ultimately you'd think theyd rather the 32yo who will be dusted in a year or two over the expensive 27yo

angry for polec sad for tom phillips shocked for isaac smith i wanna know what the people thinkin

angry for ben brown shocked for pete wright who you got

we need a polls option @Demonlandxx i'd say pick one of hunt and hannan to get a new gig assuming ANB leaves, if he stays id prefer spargo and bedford got contracts. But Melky, Nibbler, Hunt, Hannan and Spargo are 5 players who are thereabouts and when we lost this 6&7th forward spot gets rotated. Melky has a contract, supposedly offers leadership and is proven at AFL level despite down year so he stays. Spargo is young enough that if he starts in the team next year i see at his defining year the other 3 i'm not sold on and i'd prefer a year out of a potential target like narkle, langdon/daniel(gws - OOC), aarts/rioli (OOC), lonie, ronke to see if they click because its fair to say the others have had chances and ultimately its been one acceptable game in 4 and theyve been given extended stints to show their worth

i definitely give Viney his big pay day 4-5 for the sake of the exercise i left him to as in multiple years. i'd happily give Bedford, Hore, Spargo, Jordon, Lockhart two years if there was a rival asking. i think they all have big parts to play in our near future. less sure on lockhart than i was two months ago and they have to be trusted by the coaches with consecutive games (how did bedford fall so out of favour so quickly) i wanted vdB to go to Sydney its a position we've always been loaded in and at the end of 2018 when he signed, we drafted two mids (sparrow+jordon) plus Jones was still good to go and Trac hadnt moved in yet. + Lewis and Vince were still on the list so he has really not been required his entire time, we've been stocked. Melky had a bad year yes, but i think we've got him going on a year two many at this stage, we arent going to win a flag with him in the team and we didnt have anyone good enough to take his spot by mid season when he shoulda lost it. and i cant see his form turning around as he gets even older (ik hes only 29 now) and i was wrapped with the KK pick up at the time, perfect gamble, when he was on he was really damaging and young enough to make an impact but i dont think he's going to recover and its best for both parties to end that relationship. happy with the risk for sure tho i could see nibbler was hit and miss and not like your rohan types when he got that deal he was just another stretch and i guess if we can flip him this year thats a win but he hasnt done anything to justify. thats why i can see the club making the same mistake on a hannan, hunt type who cant get a regular i wasnt on DL at the time of TMacs deal but he has to play defence, we need a CHB and thats where he made his name, the adamancy of the coaches to not make these changes is detrimental to our side. because tomlinson is makeshift (and possibly better as a third tall forward -played that role at gws pre himmelberg), smith is also unreliable, petty has been injured but i really like him and Omac is out the door (yay) hore and lever too undersized unless u play them both and May becomes lockdown and doesn't intercept i guess

1. absolutely no clue 2. if he retires he's on the inactives list so he still gets paid but doesnt play/take a list spot 3. well let him play the first 8 and if he's injured theres nothing we coulda done more to get him there

guys ive had a brainwave - if jones gets to 300 games before the mid season rookie draft (is this even happening who knows) he can retire, he gets an MCG farewell game and we applaud him and live him. but we also get to turnover the spot on a list and get an extra half a season of development into someone we like who sneaks through due to the circumstances of this years draft. only problem i see with it is he wont want to quit mid project he'l be determined to get us to finals. but we all know if he goes around again next year (likely) its for that milestone and that alone. am i right or am i right

you have no idea lmao so many non classy players win flags, like you gotta have those types every side does but having 22 lachie whitfields (classiest player i can think of) isnt going to win a side but your LRT's your prestigiacamos your liam pickens who just care about their clubs their teammates that sh it invaluable and when it comes to it. i'd rather have players who care as much as viney does over anything else. viney is that type because u know when your deep in the 4th, games on the line or even if your blown out of the water they're gonna have a [censored] dip because they ride every bump of that game just like us fans do and the result stings them. Yes jones and jetta are winding up, not best 22 but their contribution to our club cannot ever be questioned and their love and passion. you dont get that feeling yet from your next wave like you do from viney

so Preuss to GWS we think ANBs only suitors you'd imagine are Adelaide (not sure what profile he fits for them except for SA born) Hunt could get strong career security at the dons on a back flank and he'd go with my blessing Omac would suit Dogs, Cats Hawks and he'd also go with my blessing and i'd feel so much better about our list after those moves. we can be active aggressive with our own targets and draft picks secondary thoughts Dons surely in market for Witherden now and Shaw too possibly (i dont want shaw here but he doesnt really have any other options, roos said no)

if he isnt the heart and soul of our club then idk who is viney jones jetta gawn theyre the only players in that conversation - nothing to do with talent but they are melbourne. commitment from him shows leadership it shows belief and bloody well hope we can achieve something big in his time.

sure he can have one on me xx

terlich was 3rd in a bnf thats good enough for a tick for mine, havent seen vanders in the top 10 and the number of games he's been available for since he joined is hardly successful

Hannan ❌ TSmith ❌ Kielty ❌ vandenberg ❌ Maynard ❌ Walker ❌ MJones ❓ Hore ❓ Terlich✅ Fritsch ✅ isn' a great track record

thats not why they've fallen off the perch, the pre-existing talent they had and all the veterans they recruited were in the same age bracket therefore they all came to the end of their careers at the same time. and due to their successes everyone behind them on the list was unproven, unseen at senior level and now theyve lost all the veterans as a natural outcome they're left with no strong foundations to rebuild from

spot on, his body work 1on1 is class times and executes it perfectly to unbalance oppo + he can leap too we really liked him i remember, brissie jumped in ahead of us in the rookie draft we ended up with bull smith and kielty, but the big o was absolutely on the radar. i guess we saw more in flip too ?‍♂️ at least we know now just to poach ruckman or wait till theyve developed

mass exodus at the roos - is tarrant gettable? talia at the crows too. before petty takes over

send him to the dogs who knows maybe he'll become a star. definitely an upgrade on that sod gardner

1yr: Bedford, Hibbo, Hore, Jordon, Spargo, Lockhart, Bradtke, Brown, Nietschke 2yrs: Fritsch ? , Sparrow ? , Petty ? , Viney Off the list: Hannan, Hunt, OMac, Chandler, Jones, Smith, Bennell but its decisions like vanders 3yrs, melky's still got another two, nibblers 2 last year, TMac for crying out loud! that the club has managed poorly. Jetta and KK should've fallen off this year too realistically and these are the kinds of decisions that show the FD is a year behind. how Jagner survived as long as he did i'll never understand. and this time next year everyone will be saying Smith has to go, Hannan, Hunt etc when we had the opportunity this year to make those calls. theyre flashy players with limitations that hold them back and hold the club back. Look at PA's 2018 exits they had so many middling players that they axed who were just getting by year on year without actually starring and they made the calls to cut them all and they've shone, even a 29yo Broadbent last year with 170odd games. a player like that we would allow to just exist on 1yr deals for a couple of years till they retired. or sam gray who played 17 games in his final season but they delist him and actively seek a better option. We cant even chop a player who scrapped their way to 5 games gifted mostly out of lack of decent alternative options!

its players like baker who is 23 next year and only a handful of games and we still treat him as young and up and coming but its 5 years in the system! like if youre not best 22 by then then u just clogging someone younger and with more upside but no doubt he'll start out of the side come in mid season for 6-8 games and earn another 1 year deal and on it goes a la ANB, Hunt, hannan to date

im with ya HFF very clear that Jones, Jetta, vanders, Smith are in their last years next year as too are Hannan, KK, Hunt, Chandler if they even make it to then too (which they shouldn't) unless something drastic changes - which i cant see happening for these boys big years for Nietschke, Lockhart, Baker, Hore, Jordon to take next step or join them assuming OMac + ANB go now

interesting no mention of Bradtke... guess he's locked in + u didnt edit out Smith, ik we all wish he was still on that list

No Bradtke on this official afl website article... https://www.afl.com.au/news/512547/re-sign-or-let-go-your-club-s-out-of-contract-players would make sense he re-signs without any fanfair.

bevo clearly wants reinforcements down back at the dogs plz sir take him and tom to replace brucey tyty

big ticks on all those targets from me @WERRIDEEheres my take 3rd rounder gets wright done (preuss pick) 4th rounder for polec (salary bonus) lions would want to move picks around 2nd 3rd rounds for witherden ANB pick for narkle + swap seconds (Witherden) MAY LEVER SALEM PETTY HIBBERD (Hore by midseason) LANGDON VINEY (Polec) FRITSCH WEID (Narkle) PICKETT (Wright) BEDFORD GAWN TRAC OLIVER JACKSON RIVERS BRAYSHAW HARMES E - Spargo Tomlinson Sparrow Melksham

look at port and st kildas rises and tell me what they did. port cleared out all the trash the last two years and aggressively drafted. not satisfied with mediocrity and inconsistent performances. st kilda brought in 1/4 of a side through trade and FA to take them further. we sit mid table and dabble in both and continue to sit mid table.