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Aug 24th geez i was close, missed Sestan and overshot on Campbell and Henderson. 50:50'd McDonald/Fullarton so I'll half pay it. Got the trades out right when it could have been any or none

Like many others i probably thought lever was out before may but he went in for surgery early and hopefully can get himself sorted, i think he is also definitely helped by the age and leadership chasm between the 30+ers and the kids. if were 3-4 years away, well lever could get there. I also think turner plays levers roll better than he plays mays/mcdonalds of 25 but petty turner lever i would trust regardless of whether may stays or goes. I seriously think petty has AA capabilities the same way weitering or collins/keane have

I think the decision was made about a month ago when TMac got the extra year and with Mihocek seemingly on the hook. May's 2026 deal came as a trigger in his existing deal i believe. It was probably one of May or McDonald for 2026 and one is far more likely to be content playing 2s, and also on less coin and less trade value. Hope he goes and has himself a year next year he's been unreal for us since the moment he walked through the door. When your strength is long kicking and closing speed at 33yo your hammies are going to be feeling themselves and we saw that in the last month. Thanks for 21 Mayzie

tbf i stand by wanting 2MP fir a fourth rounder at 24 from the suns over brown, woulda saved us 3 years of chopping between key forward back up rucks. BBB had a good 4 week stretch, i think 2 metre coulda done the same and more. he won a bnf since 2018 too

i'd say yes good move, but look at may's last month, and BM is only 12 months younger, may has hit a cliff and yes his stremgths were speed and kicking which are very hamstring oriented but mihocek might find it tough after 12 months to contribute, whats your opinion on whether darling has been a success at North

are u describing north or us?!?! eerily similar the way we're building the next generation midfield out again and praying that we can find talls somewhere down the track, good plan on paper but we've spent 5 years showing the competition how hard it is to execute when u arent geelong/pies/hawks/swans/lions

the swans were throwing mccartin and hamling forward and went to the well with ladhams 3 times before they gave him a game, the pies want him to be 38th man on the list, we'd need him to be a walk up start round 1. fits firmly in the fullarton/schache pile for me

Clubs have recently used the rookie draft to 're-draft' players they have recently delisted. Under AFL rules, clubs must have at least three list senior list vacancies in order to take part in the national draft. Before the national draft, clubs will delist a player to open up a senior list spot, but commit to re-drafting that player in the rookie draft. This year, clubs have delisted a total of 16 players and committed to taking them in the rookie draft. afl.com.auAFL Draft explainer: Everything you need to knowCheck out this explainer as the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft approachestaken from a draft explainer on the afl website from last year

so you have to take 3 picks at the draft, if we're bringing in 3 players from other sides, either we need to move 1/2 to the rookie list or maybe we're screwing the giants and waiting for derksen to sign as a SSP as a delisted player onto the rookie list for us after they didnt come to the table last year. but as it stands if we were to sign sinnema and white we would only have 1 live selection. if flanders/windhager comes woey is done unless trac/may leaves too, even then if sinnema is to be signed its probably in place of woey if trac is replaced by flanders. all these scenarios leave us with no train on or MSD slots without a LTI and given its a weaker draft state players will probably be looked at more closely around the competition *i'm not adding OBerry to any list of mine until i see a statement from us regarding him so the other option is Sinnema as a B rookie, pre covid you could have 3 B rookies, maybe thats been reinstated?

did he start well or just start? i thought it was quite obvious in his 5 games what he lacked, his composure was an issue ball in hand making the step up a level, he isnt tough or particularly agile. he's just small. hope he proves me on, but i would have liked to see us reinvest his spot again, jackson voss for example who has shown heaps at vfl level or sinnema, the way i see it we probably pass on toby now

I'm seriously concerned about the age profile of our list when breaking it down positionally. Looking at Freos list they have 10 players 196cm+, a few developing, a few regular seniors and Omac and Reidy (who wants out) as depth. We have 3, two of them are 34yo rucks and one is Jed Adams. OOC in 2026: May, McDonald, Adams who all on form to date would be more unlikely than likely to be signed on (Adams probably gets a 5th!! season as depth due to lack of options. Alongside Turner who is the priority signing of the group then at the other end you have: Jefferson, Kentfield, Johnson, McAdam, Melksham, Fritsch, of which Fritsch definitely deserves 2 years and Kentfield either 1 or 2 depending how he progresses, and then you're either going into year 5 with Jeffo or year 3 with Johnson who have not shown any AFL gamechanging ability, plus a 35yo vet and a 30yo who's injury prone Plus our 34yo only backup ruck. I know that Heath, Derksen, Berry and White somewhat replenish our talls + anyone we sign next year. but we are going into next year with such an inbalanced list profile i think it's one of my larger issues with our list management team. EOS24' we lost Brown, Tomlinson, Smith, Farris-White, Schache all at once, none of them obviously deserved another season but the waves at which we seem to be alternating tall and small and the rate at which they go out and are obviously replaced isnt there. Geelong have for example played Kolodjashnij in the 2s for large parts of teh season because OSullivan has taken his place, Hawk went out Neale came in, Stanley breaks down they have Conway and 2 other developing rucks behind him. We have the guys in the seniors and then no one, if Adams and Jefferson turn out to be busts, we would have one tall under 22yo being Kentfield. We also seemingly threw all our post gawn/jackosn ruck eggs in one 199cm rookies basket rather than taking a few 200+ beanstalks to nuture which seemed like a really odd choice at the time and a bit of a hedging of the bets to either regenerate LJ or repurpose into a KPF. Imagine if we had a Moyle or a Dodson just tearing up the vfl and knowing maxy had trained them up But also Petty is our only tall between 33 and 23 as well, its a bad mix is all im saying. Tall players are some of the most exciting and dominant players and prospects clubs have on their lists and i think the lack of that for us has me quite demoralised, would love a couple of tall 198+ prospects who really attack the footy in the air at vfl level and kick truly to really get behind and get me up and about

if hes leaving hes surely prepared to shed some coin for just a whiff of september footy, and agreed that the role for us is HFF so langdon/sparrow/viney are in the gun there. give X the far wing and then, maybe simpkin can add to that mix as well with culley and windsor/langford whoever else rolls through there

he looks so much taller than 183cm, seriously tough player i like his closing work as a back, more of a kicker than a run and carrier but i can see why u like his ability to go on the inside as a mid too

interesting voss wasnt sighted in the toty but tom blamires was, and won the Fothergil-Round-Mitchell. he had that one 40+ game when he touched up collingwood, but was the rest of his season at that same level?

@spirit of norm smith your man rory wright starting to garner some attention, seen a few more mentiions and write ups on him as the draft gets nearer! good spot from you!

we are far too conservative with list management, if we were stephen wells and andrew mackie, theyd both be gone and theyd find a shrewd pickup elsewhere, having said that no one already delisted as raised an eyebrow for me at all except maybe jacob blight who reportedly did a medical at the filth. but surely in 12 months and 5 afl games they could tell henderson was best going to have a similar output next year and instead go and find someone who has a higher ceiling or more room to grow. even the fact they said they had offered spargo a deal confuses me. next year ive got sparrow, johnson and jeffo in might sights. probably all 3 at some stage get new deals but what do they show in the next 12 months that says yep i'm going to play impactful afl games and be part of the next dynasty, likewise mackie and wells would not have given howes 2 years in june, it would have been wait till post trade and then maybe heres 12 months if we cant see something else we like with more significant afl output, theres a few "inspector gadget" type vfl interceptors in the fothergil-round-mitchell hunt who surely can show more than year 5-6 of howes, and if not then 12-24 months whatever their draft contract is and go and look again instead of trying to always fill the roll of the player before them henderson --> spargo, sharp --> neal-bullen that fits 1 game plan and 1 play style why dont we try something different. go and get 3 small goalkicking tackling forwards and lets be the most dangerous ball on the deck forward line in the comp if we arent going to have anyone to mark it. viney look mate you're not attending a single centre bounce next year, you are the half forward go and stalk the stoppage and tackle thats your roll now and if its not him its alright langdon your wing is now lindsays and culleys or lindsays and windsors youre the HF and lets go and see who the next mcvee or dempsey is and find some 18yo's for the rookie list. point being hendersons 2026 output isnt going to wow any of us and likely we will be having the same debate or all calling for him to be delisted next year, wouldn't you rather the raw talent like a sestan and see where they can get to in 2-3 years and watch them develop instead of just a known depth go-er

michael barlow his werribee coach said on the footy and freinds podcast today that he bumped into him earlier this week and he had been offered a new deal, not even a wait till post trade. which would make woey jnr the singular player left in limbo

doubling down on this being not a bad idea, for 26, ideally petty goes back and we play forwards forward first and foremost but out of contract next year we have 3x KPD may, mcdonald adams 1x ruckman -campbell 3x KPF - kentfield jefferson johnson even melksham as a fourth we are going to need mature bodies who are afl standard to replace them, he isnt worse than a mcstay or gardner or frampton type now

i just remember his stutter step approach to tackling in the north melbourne game and i put a line through him from that point onwards, was scared to hit blokes, he would slow down and corral his oponent instead of running through them, not what i want my small forwards to do, also dont think he has the goal sense required or has the speed of mind to make the next step from vfl - slow to dispose

if my side was bottom of the ladder for 5 years and tried to sell me hope with sentimental 3 year deals for non goal kicking small forwards after busting on fisher, tucker, stephenson and others who just repeat the cycle i would be fairly livid too, hes a good fluff player but is hardly going to carry them up the ladder

You had me at the first bit but probably didnt completely land at the end. Agree he was overrated and unimpactful and got a generous run at selection - not discrediting he played some gooder games around some mostly uninspiring ones. the same DLers who moan about selection integrity "goodys boys" and vfl form not being rewarded throughout the season suddenly become ultra sensative to list changes and the club trying to find solutions and different combos to take us forward. 10 years, peaked as a player and rightfully shakes hands and takes up a more secure deal and more secure gametime, thankyou and best wishes look at what watson or lohmann/weightman are doing, or what mannagh and max hall from the vfl are doing, the right players are out there and its time we go and find some new ones for our HF flanks. Sam butler? pedlar? harvey harrison even maybe or can we get a mcreery out, do we focus some draft selections there? dovaston?

he's been part of the really bad since '21 its time for us to invest in different profiles and build towards the next flag, spargs wasn't going to take us there hopefully we can find someone else who can

i think in terms of contracted players or mature players with afl experience then you are correct, but with rookies who failed to make the grade, traded in depth players and injury prone 30yo's the list management and broader coaching team will have seen enough to make decisions with the football clubs best inteests at heart on those types

list size is out now beyond mcvee priorities next year Bowey, Fritsch, Turner and then i suppose Chin, slim pickings after that however...

this hasnt actually come out anywhere from the club yet