1 hour ago, Greg Schneider said:

Can’t believe he kept a straight face when he said our young key forwards are super exciting

JVR's not a world beater but he is a decent young player. A good coach would be every chance to unlock Jeffo, there's no shortage of talent there. And Luker is more talented than both of them.

We're super reliant on our best half dozen or so running players and there's a huge drop off to the guys on our fringes and beyond. That's a bigger issue going forward than our talls even if they aren't world beaters.

3 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Teams play 3 attacking back flankers these days, but otherwise the answer is pretty simple, Salem's.

3 talls,3 smalls,one small has to defend and it ain't Bowie(to small) or Salem(to slow)so it would be another year defending or change clubs

1 minute ago, doomsday dee said:

3 talls,3 smalls,one small has to defend and it ain't Bowie(to small) or Salem(to slow)so it would be another year defending or change clubs

If one of our smalls needs to lock down, it should be Rivers. Awful decision maker with ball in hand, but is combative and athletic enough to go with most of the dangerous guys.

Bonus points for being solid in the air too.

1 minute ago, doomsday dee said:

3 talls,3 smalls,one small has to defend and it ain't Bowie(to small) or Salem(to slow)so it would be another year defending or change clubs

7 defenders. 3 talls, 1 lockdown small, 3 attacking smalls. Starcevich with Zorko, Fletcher, Wilmott for Brisbane for example.

I'd be signing a back pocket and having Salem and Bowey both play some wing in preseason and Judd and Bowey also play midfield.

Geelong model uses a lot of flexibility with wing/half back and different players in the midfield especially post clearance.

Just now, DeeSpencer said:

7 defenders. 3 talls, 1 lockdown small, 3 attacking smalls. Starcevich with Zorko, Fletcher, Wilmott for Brisbane for example.

I'd be signing a back pocket and having Salem and Bowey both play some wing in preseason and Judd and Bowey also play midfield.

Geelong model uses a lot of flexibility with wing/half back and different players in the midfield especially post clearance.

If we were to land Flanders, how are you using him?

no nonsense update from Tim Lamb. I've been critical of him. Maybe was i too harsh

and McVee can get in the bin

Refreshing to see the club being open with supporters, and then actually saying something. The PR, website and social media connection between club and supporters has been behind for so long.

2 minutes ago, Davos said:

If we were to land Flanders, how are you using him?

On ball and feed him the footy. I don't think he breaks the lines quick enough to be a gun half back, hence why Dimma replaced him from that role with Rioli and Noble. We'll see if he's got enough burst to start in the centre bounces for 20+ a game or if he starts forward and swaps with Pickett post clearance but try to get him the ball in transition as he'd immediately be one of our best users.

1 hour ago, doomsday dee said:

Sounds more to me that Melbourne lied to him and wasted Judds time the last 18 months

Really?

3 minutes ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

Really?

Its a BS take. You play the role the team needs you to play full stop. A player that has been given an AFL lifeline should be thankful for the opportunity and not demand to played elsewhere. The coach and footy dept know his skills and capability.

Its an incredibly short sighted and imature take by Judd. We dont need players like this so he can ruck off along with Trac.

7 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

On ball and feed him the footy. I don't think he breaks the lines quick enough to be a gun half back, hence why Dimma replaced him from that role with Rioli and Noble. We'll see if he's got enough burst to start in the centre bounces for 20+ a game or if he starts forward and swaps with Pickett post clearance but try to get him the ball in transition as he'd immediately be one of our best users.

Like your vision.

Not as confident as you are that Viney can be disciplned enough to play as a defensive mid, though. A rotation of Oliver, Flanders/Pickett and Viney doesn't do it for me - we need a Dunkley.

4 minutes ago, Davos said:

we need a Dunkley

Everyone needs a Dunkley.

Heath and Mihocek locked in then

and maybe the giants have swayed derksen with aleer and keefe leaving, if i were him i'd see the writing on the walls after 4 years and switch things up

also if we want a player for trac who at the crows are we asking for?

Curtin, Filthy

Worrall Soligo

Draper Pedlar

Butts Nankervis

isn't much else i'd consider

51 minutes ago, doomsday dee said:

3 talls,3 smalls,one small has to defend and it ain't Bowie(to small) or Salem(to slow)so it would be another year defending or change clubs

So he’d prefer to go to West Coast and be the first choice attacking HBF in a team that gets spanked each week?

When “Melbourne” lied to him, who specifically told him he’d play a role he didn’t play? And how did the conversation with King go?

57 minutes ago, doomsday dee said:

3 talls,3 smalls,one small has to defend and it ain't Bowie(to small) or Salem(to slow)so it would be another year defending or change clubs

If he wanted midfield Judd had opportunity at Melbourne because of his difference to Oliver, Viney, Langford.

In joining a team of Brayshaw, Serong, Bolton, Erasmus… has no role. Even rolling back he’s behind Clark and Young.

At best, he’ll find himself like Howe playing forward at Collingwood… and you know what Freo lack? A lockdown defender…

10 minutes ago, No10 said:

If he wanted midfield Judd had opportunity at Melbourne because of his difference to Oliver, Viney, Langford.

In joining a team of Brayshaw, Serong, Bolton, Erasmus… has no role. Even rolling back he’s behind Clark and Young.

At best, he’ll find himself like Howe playing forward at Collingwood… and you know what Freo lack? A lockdown defender…

Its very much a J.Howe situation unfolding again and like J.Howe, he'll watch us win a premiership before his team does. Take that to the bank.

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Well Salem is a 30 year old with a suspect body, and Bowey can play in other spots.

We plucked this kid as a rookie during Covid. We gave him a lifeline. We made him a great player. He was asked to play a position that helped the team while we battled injuries, and he too battled injuries.

To say we wasted 18 months of his career is a joke. If he wanted to leave last year while contracted, we could have at least got a fair deal for him in a strong draft, but no, he chose for his contract to expire and then nominate a club, so we get screwed.

In a team sport, if you are having a sook about your role, and you are a 22 year old who has achieved very little, you need to reassess your ego.

Considering you have posted on here about nothing but McVee, and admitted you have a third hand connection to him, I understand your desire to defend him. But let's call a spade a spade here, he's leaving because he thinks the grass at Freo is greener.

A small amount of cognitive dissonance here maybe?

4 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

A small amount of cognitive dissonance here maybe?

Prior to injury he was a very very good small one on one defender. He did some remarkable jobs on the likes of Charlie Cameron. He is a very talented defender, who seems to want the easy attacking role.

Apparently being a lock down defender isn’t glamorous enough for him. He wants to play Bowey’s role, despite being a far worse ball user than Bowey and Salem.

But hey, he’s Judd McVee and apparently he has earnt the right to demand a role in a sinking ship, after a very mediocre season ruined by a bad hamstring 🙄

48 minutes ago, Nasher said:

So he’d prefer to go to West Coast and be the first choice attacking HBF in a team that gets spanked each week?

When “Melbourne” lied to him, who specifically told him he’d play a role he didn’t play? And how did the conversation with King go?

He ain't going to the eagles,Goody and haven't heard about King

42 minutes ago, No10 said:

If he wanted midfield Judd had opportunity at Melbourne because of his difference to Oliver, Viney, Langford.

In joining a team of Brayshaw, Serong, Bolton, Erasmus… has no role. Even rolling back he’s behind Clark and Young.

At best, he’ll find himself like Howe playing forward at Collingwood… and you know what Freo lack? A lockdown defender…

It's not a midfield role and Freo need another J Clarke

21 minutes ago, doomsday dee said:

He ain't going to the eagles

He will if a deal doesn’t get done.

And if it’s an ordinary pick offered in a poor draft by Freo then there isn’t much incentive for Melbourne not to send him to the preseason draft.

28 minutes ago, doomsday dee said:

It's not a midfield role and Freo need another J Clarke

Given you are obviously super invested in Judd and allegedly have ties to him, what’s the feedback from Goody on why he didn’t get the role at Melbourne?

He’s not a line breaking kick, isn’t an elite mark, nor does he have blistering speed.

If he plays regular footy at Freo, I am very confident it’s in the exact same role he was so keen to avoid

38 minutes ago, doomsday dee said:

He ain't going to the eagles

Might not have a choice...

19 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

He will if a deal doesn’t get done.

A deal will get done.

50 minutes ago, doomsday dee said:

He ain't going to the eagles,Goody and haven't heard about King

So why crack it and leave over what Goody said? Goody’s opinion doesn’t mean squat anymore. That’s why I was interested in what King said.

Anyway, all water under the bridge now. I don’t understand but I also don’t have to.