2 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

• Coach Paul Roos: brought Goodwin into his coaching panel as part of a long-term succession plan.

• The plan was set and aimed to transition the top coaching job from Roos to Goodwin over time.

• Roos viewed Goodwin's recruitment as an assistant as the "final piece in the puzzle" to ensure a seamless transition.

Fun fact - the apprentice job was first offered to Stuart Dew but he turned it down.

The succession plan was a requirement by Roos.

2 minutes ago, Chook in Perth said:

So here is the lay of the (Demon?)land from what I can gather.

Melbourne want Buckley. Buckley wants Melbourne. But...

There are forces at play outside our control. There is an AFL Commission Chairman on the nose. There is an AFL CEO with non of his predecessors gravitas, and an ever growing penchant for getting it wrong.

Individually, and collectively, they need a win. It sure isn't flying a kite about Opening Round getting a run south of the Murray.

So they don't want the figurehead they've earmarked for Tasmania being lost to little old Melbourne.

So what to do? Well Tasmania don't have a soft cap. "Name your price". "What do you need?" "What do you want?"

This is how the AFL operate. They stink. They get their media operative Caro to drip feed enough to make it look fair without appearing to be duplicious bullies.

We are pawns in a game. Docklandsare playing along with our process for the optics only, ready to step in when there's a gap in the content echo chamber.

If we get Buckley it will be because he wants to do it enough to turn down the keys to the castle.

No one could blame him for walking away though.

Offt. James Kelly then? Or Bucks is genuinely a chance to knock the whole machine back?

Im amazed goody isn’t the new target. He’s got a better record than bucks and wants to coaxh

5 minutes ago, Chook in Perth said:

There are forces at play outside our control. There is an AFL Commission Chairman on the nose. There is an AFL CEO with non of his predecessors gravitas, and an ever growing penchant for getting it wrong.

Hinkley would be perfect for Tassie! The AFL are dumb fools.

if what Chook says is true, Smith and Guerra should be telling Dillon in no uncertain terms to jog on

But if Buckley is so easily distracted then he can jog on too

Kind of a bad look for Skipworth imo. Outside looking in it appears he didn't impress and bailed early knowing he won't get the job. Had he stuck around for an interview I'm sure a public presser would have complimented all candidates but now I'll, rightly or wrongly, view him as the weakest candidate of this crop of aspiring coaches.

9 minutes ago, Chook in Perth said:

So here is the lay of the (Demon?)land from what I can gather.

Melbourne want Buckley. Buckley wants Melbourne. But...

There are forces at play outside our control. There is an AFL Commission Chairman on the nose. There is an AFL CEO with non of his predecessors gravitas, and an ever growing penchant for getting it wrong.

Individually, and collectively, they need a win. It sure isn't flying a kite about Opening Round getting a run south of the Murray.

So they don't want the figurehead they've earmarked for Tasmania being lost to little old Melbourne.

So what to do? Well Tasmania don't have a soft cap. "Name your price". "What do you need?" "What do you want?"

This is how the AFL operate. They stink. They get their media operative Caro to drip feed enough to make it look fair without appearing to be duplicious bullies.

We are pawns in a game. Docklandsare playing along with our process for the optics only, ready to step in when there's a gap in the content echo chamber.

If we get Buckley it will be because he wants to do it enough to turn down the keys to the castle.

No one could blame him for walking away though.

Any mail on why the AFL is obsessed with Buckley specifically @Chook in Perth? They have at least three serious other options it seems to me.

Honestly, go and listen to Skipworths media conferences on YouTube.

I know that Goody was boring enough but Skipworth is 10× level up. Uninspiring as they come.

8 minutes ago, Chook in Perth said:

So they don't want the figurehead they've earmarked for Tasmania being lost to little old Melbourne.

But surely there are alternatives ... Longmire for one? Then there's Goodwin, Hinkley, Simpson, surely the AFL can crank up their PR machine to sell whoever it is they end up with?

Though when it comes to profile, Bucks is a long way in front - also perhaps why we want him.

Just now, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Any mail on why the AFL is obsessed with Buckley specifically @Chook in Perth? They have at least three serious other options it seems to me.

Profile, profile, profile.

5 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

Offt. James Kelly then? Or Bucks is genuinely a chance to knock the whole machine back?

Im amazed goody isn’t the new target. He’s got a better record than bucks and wants to coaxh

The media (with plenty of help from people I won’t name) have just spent 5 years tearing Goodwin to shreds. Doesn’t matter that he’s a good coach.

Meanwhile Buckley is a superstar name and strong media performer who can market Tassie (including staying on Fox for at least another year), that trumps his mostly mediocre coaching record

3 minutes ago, Random Task said:

Kind of a bad look for Skipworth imo. Outside looking in it appears he didn't impress and bailed early knowing he won't get the job. Had he stuck around for an interview I'm sure a public presser would have complimented all candidates but now I'll, rightly or wrongly, view him as the weakest candidate of this crop of aspiring coaches.

I think CIP inferred he did have an interview and he was well behind the others, so he bowed out with appropriate

flimsy excuse.

5 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

if what Chook says is true, Smith and Guerra should be telling Dillon in no uncertain terms to jog on

"Thanks for the call Paul, we'll give your arguments consideration. BTW, how much do you need to get Caulfield off the ground, we might be able to work something out ..."

Has anyone on the AFL thought about what stability Buckley might want by staying with his family/friends in Melbourne?

Resettling everyone he is close to and away from people he knows.

4 minutes ago, Chook in Perth said:

Profile, profile, profile.

It's the vibe of the thing your Honour. It's the constitution. It's Mabo. It's justice. It's law. It's the vibe... no, that's it, it's the vibe.

13 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

if what Chook says is true, Smith and Guerra should be telling Dillon in no uncertain terms to jog on

But if Buckley is so easily distracted then he can jog on too

Cos taking on City Hall always works well for us.

20 minutes ago, Chook in Perth said:

Individually, and collectively, they need a win

Keeping Nathan Buckley off the market is the ‘win’ they’ve earmarked?

I would be genuinely surprised if the matter is even getting a mention in the boardroom (or behind closed doors) at AFL House.

30 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

• Coach Paul Roos: brought Goodwin into his coaching panel as part of a long-term succession plan.

• The plan was set and aimed to transition the top coaching job from Roos to Goodwin over time.

• Roos viewed Goodwin's recruitment as an assistant as the "final piece in the puzzle" to ensure a seamless transition.

Not sure what you’re trying to say? He went through a similar interview process that we are doing now. Adam Simpson was another interviewed at the time and has spoken about it.

3 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Keeping Nathan Buckley off the market is the ‘win’ they’ve earmarked?

I would be genuinely surprised if the matter is even getting a mention in the boardroom (or behind closed doors) at AFL House.

head office is all about the optics

appointing figjam to their taswegian franchise with a nice shiny indoors stadium to come is a big win; just ask caro

Would any of the runners up be likely to be appointed and take an assistant role to whoever gets head coach?

How much say does the head coach have in his assistants?

13 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Cos taking on City Hall always works well for us.

I’m interested in examples of us taking them on

45 minutes ago, Chook in Perth said:

So here is the lay of the (Demon?)land from what I can gather.

Melbourne want Buckley. Buckley wants Melbourne. But...

There are forces at play outside our control. There is an AFL Commission Chairman on the nose. There is an AFL CEO with non of his predecessors gravitas, and an ever growing penchant for getting it wrong.

Individually, and collectively, they need a win. It sure isn't flying a kite about Opening Round getting a run south of the Murray.

So they don't want the figurehead they've earmarked for Tasmania being lost to little old Melbourne.

So what to do? Well Tasmania don't have a soft cap. "Name your price". "What do you need?" "What do you want?"

This is how the AFL operate. They stink. They get their media operative Caro to drip feed enough to make it look fair without appearing to be duplicious bullies.

We are pawns in a game. Docklandsare playing along with our process for the optics only, ready to step in when there's a gap in the content echo chamber.

If we get Buckley it will be because he wants to do it enough to turn down the keys to the castle.

No one could blame him for walking away though.

Sounds like the AFL might save us from ourselves.

Here's to hoping!

47 minutes ago, Chook in Perth said:

So here is the lay of the (Demon?)land from what I can gather.

Melbourne want Buckley. Buckley wants Melbourne. But...

There are forces at play outside our control. There is an AFL Commission Chairman on the nose. There is an AFL CEO with non of his predecessors gravitas, and an ever growing penchant for getting it wrong.

Individually, and collectively, they need a win. It sure isn't flying a kite about Opening Round getting a run south of the Murray.

So they don't want the figurehead they've earmarked for Tasmania being lost to little old Melbourne.

So what to do? Well Tasmania don't have a soft cap. "Name your price". "What do you need?" "What do you want?"

This is how the AFL operate. They stink. They get their media operative Caro to drip feed enough to make it look fair without appearing to be duplicious bullies.

We are pawns in a game. Docklandsare playing along with our process for the optics only, ready to step in when there's a gap in the content echo chamber.

If we get Buckley it will be because he wants to do it enough to turn down the keys to the castle.

No one could blame him for walking away though.

This is wild but wouldn’t surprise me at all.

19 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Cos taking on City Hall always works well for us.

I would take that even further and plaster it over the whole sports media that the selection of our future Coach was interfered with, that Club and Board felt as though they were being intimidated against, and undue personal pressure was placed on candidates.

Step one: preliminary meetings with Buckley in early 2025.
Step two: politely turf Goodwin.
Step three: instead of fighting off Carlton or Essendon, we actually get ahead of the AFL itself to line up Buckley.

And then—because the AFL can’t help but meddle—they’re forced to offer up Caulfield as a home base, or other collateral or incentives, plus “mysteriously” help us land a fantastic coach (who, spoiler alert, isn’t even Buckley).

That’s not just doing a Steven Bradbury. That’s Steven Bradbury winning the Olympic gold, then being handed a lifetime supply of ice skates, and a Netflix doco deal by the IOC.

Maybe, just maybe… we actually know what we’re doing after all. 😆

here

(for those that are too young ,or forgot...)

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by Engorged Onion

6 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Step one: preliminary meetings with Buckley in early 2025.
Step two: politely turf Goodwin.
Step three: instead of fighting off Carlton or Essendon, we actually get ahead of the AFL itself to line up Buckley.

And then—because the AFL can’t help but meddle—they’re forced to offer up Caulfield as a home base, plus “mysteriously” help us land a fantastic coach (who, spoiler alert, isn’t even Buckley).

That’s not just doing a Steven Bradbury. That’s Steven Bradbury winning the Olympic gold, then being handed a lifetime supply of ice skates, a private rink, and a Netflix doco deal by the IOC.

Maybe, just maybe… we actually know what we’re doing after all. 😆

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAADWfJO2qM (for those that are too young ,or forgot...)

Ooooh, I like it. Kelly to Melbourne and Caulfield sorted. Reckon our club might have sorted that one itself, but who knows.