Just now, Dr. Gonzo said:

Also who can take him seriously in that beanie 😂

Promoting the BCNA game

3 minutes ago, Go the Biff said:

Promoting the BCNA game

Fair enough, it just looks huge on his head like he's wearing a traffic cone

8 minutes ago, Adina88 said:

What should motivate players - hating and fearing the guy that coaches them? That's pretty old school. There'll be members who want a coach who sprays them at half time and smashes the phone in the coaches box, and members who prefer a coach who the players like being around. Each to their own, but I can understand and applaud Ed for speaking his mind and taking issue with a relatively faceless 'Board' who make decisions that the players don't agree with.

I never said anything about recruiting an old school belligerent coach.

But when your captain says we lack ruthlessness and we need to learn how to win, how could you not want more from your coach or department?

We all know this group can achieve more than they have the last 2 years.

Edited Wednesday at 00:372 days by MrFreeze

1 hour ago, Ghostwriter said:

Clearly not all of them were present. At least three players found out by feeds in their socials.

Yes sorry I should have said that it was just the leadership team in that zoom call. So it's either a player in the leadership team or a board member/club staffer in the know that leaked it

28 minutes ago, MrFreeze said:

I think some of these players are too comfortable being comfortable

When Max was discussing ruthlessness, it honestly sounded like he was trying to convince himself to be ruthless

A bit of disruption might be good for these boys

You don’t like honesty from our players? I love Ed for telling everyone exactly how he and the other players feel about this sad and sorry mess.

Folks complain about players and coaches trotting out the same old hackneyed bs lines, then Ed speaks from his heart and you think he needs a distraction???!

1 hour ago, Ghostwriter said:

Clearly not all of them were present. At least three players found out by feeds in their socials.

Must have slept in?

Anyone else tear up at the ending of 360 last night?

3 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

You don’t like honesty from our players? I love Ed for telling everyone exactly how he and the other players feel about this sad and sorry mess.

Folks complain about players and coaches trotting out the same old hackneyed bs lines, then Ed speaks from his heart and you think he needs a distraction???!

Who said he can't speak for himself? Was not me

Just sounded like a player content, not a player striving for a premiership

37 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

We'll have to agree to disagree on the first point. I didn't see much different game style wise and the same issues that have been there for years persisted.

Agree on your second point, Richo was foisted upon us by the AFL with the help of his mate Pert, can't think of any positives he's actually brought to the club and should have been out the door last year.

there has been a clear change in game style to the eye, especially the second half of the season and the stats back that up.

If you still think we just bomb it down the line all the time I suggest you watch closer and also watch what other teams do Gonzo

1 minute ago, MrFreeze said:

Who said he can't speak for himself? Was not me

Just sounded like a player content, not a player striving for a premiership

You’re clearly not familiar with Ed. Dude’s so chill he’s a heartbeat away from a coma.

Also, he doesn’t sound like a player striving for a premiership? What does that sound like? Should he have passionately said “YES! THE BOARD IS SPOT ON… WE NEED A NEW VOICE!!” Would that have fit the brief? Never mind that this isn’t how he feels.

34 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Fair enough, it just looks huge on his head like he's wearing a traffic cone

Witches hats, not a good omen. 😅

1 hour ago, Adam The God said:

What a [censored] show. 🤦

it was the leadership group that had a zoom meeting at 8-830, with the whole player group to meet at 10am 1 hour before training.

unfortunately some moron decided to tell tom morris

I’m really not sure what people expect Ed to say? He says the players had a good relationship and loved Goody. I don’t think the board disagreed with that.

But loving someone is not always enough. Players may love him but also think we need a change, or they might be blinded by their affection towards him. As the saying goes, love is blind.

12 hours ago, Deestar9 said:

I agree … so much arrogance from a supporter base who assume that with the team we had we should have won multiple premierships.

I think the vast, vast majority of supporters who take a close look at the game (as opposed to saying they barrack for Melbourne and glancing at scores every now and then) don't think this. They understand very well that premierships are extremely hard to win.

But they do crave multiple solid performances in finals in consecutive years. It's not a guarantee of a flag, but it gives you a much better chance than hoping everything goes right in a single season.

1 hour ago, Ghostwriter said:

It wasn’t a player, the players found out via Facebook and other socials at the same time everyone else did.

That is a disgrace and speaks to poor management and governance. Regardless of whether the decision to sack Goody was right or wrong, letting even one player find out via social media is utterly unacceptable.

Also I hope you’re doing ok.

2 minutes ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

I think the vast, vast majority of supporters who take a close look at the game (as opposed to saying they barrack for Melbourne and glancing at scores every now and then) don't think this. They understand very well that premierships are extremely hard to win.

But they do crave multiple solid performances in finals in consecutive years. It's not a guarantee of a flag, but it gives you a much better chance than hoping everything goes right in a single season.

My biggest dissapointment with this group and 22/23 is we put ourselves into a position the whole year to win those games of football, and the one thing that let us down was our forward entry/goalkicking. Which has now plagued us for the past 3 years.

I have no conceviable idea how we havent managed to fix this

19 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yes, a few.

19 hours ago, Mickey said:

Yes, lots on insta. Lot of player sharing the MFC farewell post, separate things from Max, Riv and Hibbo

Any opinions, overt or otherwise?

Poor Ed. An absolute no win question. It was absolutely clear Goody had a great relationship with the players. The phrase "new voice" really has little to do with that but rather fresh ideas, strategy and motivation.

Surely when any organisation Board sacks the OIC, the responsibility to advise the participants is paramount.

Not via maggot Media, who are normally the instigators anyway.

56 minutes ago, MrFreeze said:

I think some of these players are too comfortable being comfortable

When Max was discussing ruthlessness, it honestly sounded like he was trying to convince himself to be ruthless

A bit of disruption might be good for these boys

I liked Eds honesty and clearly the players loved Goodwin which we all knew anyhow.

The issue is, when players become way too comfortable and close to the coach then you start to get complacency and players dictate what they can and can't do. They run their own race which is a recipe for disaster.

This has been going on for too long now and there been no accountability from coaches to leadership.

Players need to take a huge chunk of responsibility for the sacking of Goodwin. The on field performance from the players and so called leaders has been simply unacceptable for 2 years now.

Edited Wednesday at 01:502 days by dazzledavey36

Interesting looking at the ladder as it sits.

The only recycled coach in the top 12 is Dimma, and he jumped off the sinking ship.

The bottom six have Scott, Voss, Lyon, Clarkson & two newbies.

Can't see any value in recycling.

A new regime always wants their own man.

It was inevitable.

I can't be bothered going back through my posts but I did mention this during the 0-5 period.

2 minutes ago, GM11 said:

Interesting looking at the ladder as it sits.

The only recycled coach in the top 12 is Dimma, and he jumped off the sinking ship.

The bottom six have Scott, Voss, Lyon, Clarkson & two newbies.

Can't see any value in recycling.

No, no no. You clearly don't get it.

It will be different this time, especially if we can land Collingwood's version of Simon Goodwin (minus the premiership success).

2 minutes ago, Tracca said:

My biggest dissapointment with this group and 22/23 is we put ourselves into a position the whole year to win those games of football, and the one thing that let us down was our forward entry/goalkicking. Which has now plagued us for the past 3 years.

It was incredibly disappointing. I'd go further and say that making three finals series in a row is certainly good by Melbourne standards. By other teams' standards it's thoroughly mediocre (and that's being very generous).

Sydney - rarely out of finals. Eight finals appearances in a row between 2010 and 2018.

Geelong - rarely out of final. Eight in a row during the glory years. Six in a row under Scott.

Collingwood - eight from 2006 til 2013.

Brisbane - seven over the last seven seasons.

Hawthorn - seven in a row during the glory era.

West Coast - six in a row under Simpson.

Numerous other teams have played in four consecutive finals series in the last 20 years. And several teams have put together much longer finals runs with small dips out of the finals in between.

The last time we put together four finals appearances in a row was under John Northey.

Edited Wednesday at 01:492 days by The Taciturn Demon

Langdon's comments 100% confirm a new voice was needed. Way too comfortable and to draw or reveal a divide between players and Board isn't on from a senior player and tells me (as many suspected) the players have been running the place.

Those saying "what do you expect him to say" - you expect him to say "we loved goody, but are excited for a change and the challenge that can bring". You don't expect him to say "you'd have to ask the Board". Very poor.

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Results speak louder than words. Loving your coach is not mutually exclusive with needing a fresh voice.

Also who can take him seriously in that beanie 😂

It’s also the players that haven’t been performing so it’s fair to say that they don’t know what they need. Being hum-hah with the coach isn’t necessarily the key ingredient for success.