12 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Let’s wait and see how it transpires, if he’s fit to play he plays. Just deal with the pain

There’s no such thing as a dead rubber, certainly not on Demonland

true. last week was a meaningless dead rubber but had a massive impact

Us fans watch through pain so the players can play through it

11 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

There’s a very strong PhD there

Thank you for acknowledging the calibre of my thinking.

Oh dear....they can't be serious

Havent you seen all the people walking the streets in full St Kilda regalia? I.m absolutely furious.....

This is going to be The Greatest Comeback from the wrong end of The Greatest 4th QTR Comeback in history!

4 hours ago, Superunknown said:

Thanks for reminding me I have nearly a year of catching up on your reviews!

Have a valium first I reckon

2 hours ago, ucanchoose said:

Got upgraded tickets on centre wing level 2 for $18. Couldn't pass that up. Was. Scared they would shut level 3 and I'd be stuck at ground level. Taking friends that have never been to a game before so wanted an elevated view

Level 3 will be closed.
I was tempted for the $18 (plus BF?) upgrade
But would rather some hot chips and a drink

1 hour ago, ijustwannaseeaflag said:

Oh dear....they can't be serious

You can see how starved of success that mob has been with stuff like this. Don’t get me wrong, it was an epic comeback and I’d be going bonkers too for a while, maybe right through to Tuesday, but they’re carrying on now as much as we did in 2021! At the end of the day it was just an H&A game guys and a dead rubber at that.

9 minutes ago, Bang Bang Bang said:

You can see how starved of success that mob has been with stuff like this. Don’t get me wrong, it was an epic comeback and I’d be going bonkers too for a while, maybe right through to Tuesday, but they’re carrying on now as much as we did in 2021! At the end of the day it was just an H&A game guys and a dead rubber at that.

I am 1000000% bitter but commentators said the win would be etched into St Kilda Folklore - beating a 13th place team and both missing finals?

52 minutes ago, Supermercado said:

Have a valium first I reckon

If you don’t laugh, you cry

2 hours ago, BoBo said:

Thank you for acknowledging the calibre of my thinking.

It was the right thing to do

2 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Let’s wait and see how it transpires, if he’s fit to play he plays. Just deal with the pain

There’s no such thing as a dead rubber, certainly not on Demonland

That’s right, there’s no such thing as a dead rubber.

As Goodwin has repeatedly said, we’re leaving no stone unturned, and we’re in a hurry to improve.

So why are we not using this as an opportunity to give him a week off and give his spot to Laurie, or Brown, or Woewodin, or to increase Rivers’ or Langford’s or Windsor’s centre bounce rotations, etc?

We have an unfortunate recent history of players playing poorly only for it to be revealed post game that they were sick or injured. It just happened with Trac. It happened with Gawn earlier this year too.

We also have a history of players leaving the club due to a lack of opportunity and becoming best 23 players elsewhere (Jordon, Bedford, Harmes, Baker, Corey Wagner).

Playing Viney on the basis that he can just “deal with the pain” is inconsistent with “leaving no stone unturned”.

2 hours ago, ijustwannaseeaflag said:

Oh dear....they can't be serious

Celebrating the best thing they’ve done in 80 years.

Poor things.

7 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Celebrating the best thing they’ve done in 80 years.

Poor things.

Imagine if it turns out that a single quarter in a dead rubber almost single handedly won but a guy who ends up leaving at the end of the year is the highlight of your club’s existence. Nas leaving St Kilda would almost be worse than any other high profile star leaving in recent history. He’s up there with the absolute best and it’s daylight to their next.

36 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

So why are we not using this as an opportunity to give him a week off and give his spot to Laurie, or Brown, or Woewodin

Maybe because we're still trying to win matches and even a painkiller-filled Viney offers more than any of those?

Just a thought.

37 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

That’s right, there’s no such thing as a dead rubber.

As Goodwin has repeatedly said, we’re leaving no stone unturned, and we’re in a hurry to improve.

So why are we not using this as an opportunity to give him a week off and give his spot to Laurie, or Brown, or Woewodin, or to increase Rivers’ or Langford’s or Windsor’s centre bounce rotations, etc?

We have an unfortunate recent history of players playing poorly only for it to be revealed post game that they were sick or injured. It just happened with Trac. It happened with Gawn earlier this year too.

We also have a history of players leaving the club due to a lack of opportunity and becoming best 23 players elsewhere (Jordon, Bedford, Harmes, Baker, Corey Wagner).

Playing Viney on the basis that he can just “deal with the pain” is inconsistent with “leaving no stone unturned”.

I think you missed his other platitude, not wasting another session, not wasting another game.

Goodwin and the FD must think that they know this is how it's going to work, so any experimentation is just wasting valuable time. It would certainly explain their stubbornness to make any significant changes.

3 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Maybe because we're still trying to win matches and even a painkiller-filled Viney offers more than any of those?

Just a thought.

Believing that an injured best 23 player “offers more” than three players who have barely been given a go at AFL level is a reasonably big part of our predicament.

And your post doesn’t really address mine anyway - how is backing in the tried and true consistent with “leaving no stone unturned”?

1 minute ago, bing181 said:

Maybe because we're still trying to win matches and even a painkiller-filled Viney offers more than any of those?

Just a thought.

No, he doesn't.

Either those players could come in and it would mean we could release a Langford, Rivers or even Laurie into that midfield.

And I can guarantee they would at least offer more then a player with a broken wrist. Not like Viney is a star player that would leave a huge hole if he wasn't playing.

Its no coincidence our midfield was humming this year when Viney was out. Since hes come back in, our midfield set up and cohesion is a mess again.

Remember Oliver carrying that hand injury last year? He turned into a complete liability becaude he couldn't impact with his inside work and hands.

Getting serious “hello darkness my old friend” vibes reading all this

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

And I can guarantee they would at least offer more then a player with a broken wrist.

No, you cannot guarantee anything. Nor any of us. It's the future and you can probably guarantee with some degree of certainty that the sun will come up tomorrow, but that's about it.

I continue to find this Demonland belief that fringe players (who probably won't even have their contracts extended) are some kind of solution to something, bizarre. Howes looked on a different level in his recent VFL games, yet in the AFL he was vanilla at best. And players like Brown and Woey are not even standouts at VFL level.

It's clutching at straws.

5 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Getting serious “hello darkness my old friend” vibes reading all this

That's Disturbing

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Gates Open: Approx. 11:45AM

Ticket Boxes (Gate 1 & 5) Open: Approx. 10:45AM

Match Start: Approx. 1:20PM

General Admission locations: Level 1, Between Aisles 1-11 & 24-34 & 39-48

Please note a Level 3 closure for this match. No access for patrons is permitted.

AFL Member GA Walk-Up: Level 1, Between Aisle 11-13

$2 Regular sized chips

Available in all retail food outlets that serve regular chips (Excluding The Runner)

Until allocation exhausted

$9 Schooners

Available pre-bounce

Available on Great Northern Super Crisp and Carlton Dry 3.5% in selected bar locations - AFL Dining (Vic South), Goat Bar, Johnnie Walker Bar, Terrace Bar, Sports Bar, Craft Bar, Peroni Bar & View Bar.

2x Marathon Dim Sims for only $2.50

Available all game

Available in various food outlets: Level 1, aisle 4, 31, 45, Level 2, aisle 5, 20, 31, 42 & Level 3, aisle 5, 20, 29, 44

$25 Family Bundle

2x Classic Meat Pies OR Sausage Rolls, 8x Dim Sims, 2x Soft Drinks & 2x Mount Franklin Water.

Available all game

Available in various food outlets: Level 1, aisle 4, 31, 45, Level 2, aisle 5, 20, 31, 42 & Level 3, aisle 5, 20, 29, 44

Surprised the top level isn't open. They really aren't encouraging the spectators, other than the food and drink promotions.

Edited August 1, 2025Aug 1 by Kev

$2 chips! Well then this game might actually be worth attending now.

I’m eating 5 boxes of chips then

5 hours ago, ucanchoose said:

Got upgraded tickets on centre wing level 2 for $18. Couldn't pass that up. Was. Scared they would shut level 3 and I'd be stuck at ground level. Taking friends that have never been to a game before so wanted an elevated view

Lucky u didn’t take ur friends to their first game last week!