Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

Well no, it hasnt..

She is still a lawyer that works from home and helps manages Petracca's cooking content on instagram as i already said. She will help edit the footage and usually takes enquiries if need.

Petracca manages his own instagram account. Thete os no social media manager for his personal account.

Well he just posted about the AA awards.

That should make you happy.

Someone with his number of followers has a social media manager. You can argue with me all you like, but I work in this industry and I can tell you categorically that he has someone overseeing and managing his content on both accounts.

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

Well he just posted about the AA awards.

That should make you happy.

Someone with his number of followers has a social media manager. You can argue with me all you like, but I work in this industry and I can tell you categorically that he has someone overseeing and managing his content on both accounts.

Might explain a delay in posting.

Just now, sue said:

Might explain a delay in posting.

Yep. He likely has posts scheduled, especially all the paid content would be scheduled ahead of time and everything “personal” would slot in around it.

He probably had “post about AFL awards” on the schedule for the day after the awards.

Bailey Smith has a social media manager who oversees his account and scheduling. Imagine that trainwreck managing his own 380k following 😂

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

Well he just posted about the AA awards.

That should make you happy.

Someone with his number of followers has a social media manager. You can argue with me all you like, but I work in this industry and I can tell you categorically that he has someone overseeing and managing his content on both accounts.

Agree to disagree.

I don’t care about social media.

Petracca is a professional who I know hurt some people’s fee-fees last year when he wanted to leave the place that contributed to a nadir in his life.

I want this new coach a lot of you have been demanding to live up to the promise of renewal and get him back to where he was.

The days were there was no social media, no one was the wiser yet nowadays we are judged

2 hours ago, Demonsone said:

The days were there was no social media, no one was the wiser yet nowadays we are judged

Yeah tell me about. Was trying to talk some sense into my young boy around the irrelevance of it and that the ‘facts’ and ‘advice’ that comes through it via influencers is just advertising - all bought and paid for. Mentioned that Facebook and instagram and Snap have been hijacked and that they were all initially just the same tools to connect only with friends. How have those tools changed society.

22 hours ago, Spaghetti said:

How do we think Petracca is viewed within the playing group?

I get the sense he isn’t well liked by the playing group. Not sure if that is since he tried to leave last year or whether it’s been going on longer.

I don’t like to read too much into social media posts etc, but I have noticed over the past year or so that Petracca doesn’t post much about other players.

latest example being Gawn and Kozi being named in the AA Team. Most of the team reposted the MFC posts about this. Silence from Petracca. For a prolific social media user and one of the higher profile players on the team, it seems odd.

I’ve noticed this a number of times this year.

18 hours ago, Greg Schneider said:

Never used to be JUST this though, he would share everything club related pre King’s Birthday injury, that’s all stopped now

I've noticed this aswell. He did in fact repost the AA post but way later than most...

I've also noticed he hardly ever posts anything in his MFC gear anymore!

He needs to remember he is a footballer first.

8 minutes ago, Rednblueriseing said:

I've noticed this aswell. He did in fact repost the AA post but way later than most...

I've also noticed he hardly ever posts anything in his MFC gear anymore!

He needs to remember he is a footballer first.

I think there might be some logic behind that. Could be mistaken but ads or media with club gear comes out of club salary cap, but in casual is earnings agreed with the AFL outside of salary cap?

1 minute ago, TheWiz said:

I think there might be some logic behind that. Could be mistaken but ads or media with club gear comes out of club salary cap, but in casual is earnings agreed with the AFL outside of salary cap?

Fair point. Not sure how it all works

Considering how Bailey Smith spoke at the AA about his mental health post-injury I think I'll be cutting Petracca some slack over his social media content.

37 minutes ago, Rednblueriseing said:

I've noticed this aswell. He did in fact repost the AA post but way later than most...

I've also noticed he hardly ever posts anything in his MFC gear anymore!

He needs to remember he is a footballer first.

Not sure which you are referring to.

Its worth remembering AFL rules are that if a player wears club gear for a sponsor or ad, his payments are included in that club's sal cap.

Not sure if there are AFL restrictions on when a player can wear club gear at public appearances.

Practically the only real freedom players have to wear/post in club gear is training and games.

To be fair to Tracc context should be relative to other high profile demons club/teammate related social media.

And maybe he and other players want to keep communications with teammates private.

Edited Friday at 21:314 days by Lucifers Hero

15 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Well no, it hasnt..

She is still a lawyer that works from home and helps manages Petracca's cooking content on instagram as i already said. She will help edit the footage and usually takes enquiries if need.

Petracca manages his own instagram account. Thete os no social media manager for his personal account.

She is not a lawyer. She never was admitted to practice (did not finish the post-degree requirements for admission), and so legally cannot be referred to as a lawyer.

She left her job at a law firm (in legal tech) to be Trac's brand manager, which includes managing his social media.

7 hours ago, GS_1905 said:

Yeah tell me about. Was trying to talk some sense into my young boy around the irrelevance of it and that the ‘facts’ and ‘advice’ that comes through it via influencers is just advertising - all bought and paid for. Mentioned that Facebook and instagram and Snap have been hijacked and that they were all initially just the same tools to connect only with friends. How have those tools changed society.

Social media platforms have always been commercial ventures, they were never public services. Ways have been found to monetise them and that was always the plan. They haven't been "hijacked".

25 minutes ago, old55 said:

Social media platforms have always been commercial ventures, they were never public services. Ways have been found to monetise them and that was always the plan. They haven't been "hijacked".

Haven't been hijacked? Even google search which used to just search the web for you, started drowning you in ads etc before you get search results. Doubtless facebook at al always planned to make money, but the big IT firms all expand from their original focus (eg connecting friends) and now have news feeds and marketplaces and try to get a foothold in everything. I'd say they have been hijacked by themselves.

2 minutes ago, sue said:

Haven't been hijacked? Even google search which used to just search the web for you, started drowning you in ads etc before you get search results. Doubtless facebook at al always planned to make money, but the big IT firms all expand from their original focus (eg connecting friends) and now have news feeds and marketplaces and try to get a foothold in everything. I'd say they have been hijacked by themselves.

Google built search to make money Sue.

I think there's a lot of hysteria about the "algorithm". It knows what I'm interested in so it serves me content about footy, skiing, surfing, wine etc and Ads relating to those areas, often about products I haven't heard about and that I have gone on to buy and enjoy.

I generally don't get content I'm not interested in and if I do I skip it and the algorithm realises I'm not intetested. The only annoying thing about the advertising is when I research something and make a purchase, the Ads for products in that area keep coming for some time. A way to say "i already got one" would be nice.

The problem is not social media and the algorithm, it's stupid people.

21 minutes ago, old55 said:

Google built search to make money Sue.

I think there's a lot of hysteria about the "algorithm". It knows what I'm interested in so it serves me content about footy, skiing, surfing, wine etc and Ads relating to those areas, often about products I haven't heard about and that I have gone on to buy and enjoy.

I generally don't get content I'm not interested in and if I do I skip it and the algorithm realises I'm not intetested. The only annoying thing about the advertising is when I research something and make a purchase, the Ads for products in that area keep coming for some time. A way to say "i already got one" would be nice.

The problem is not social media and the algorithm, it's stupid people.

OD - I think I did say they built these thinsg to make money. The endless expansion of the original service to dominate everthing and the drowning of the original service in extraneous areas is my main beef.

As for you saying the problem not being the social media/algorithm but stupid people: There will always be stupid people but now they are getting organised and fed dangerous rubbish in a way never before possible, so there is a problem for the rest of us.

Edited Saturday at 00:244 days by sue

1 hour ago, sue said:

OD - I think I did say they built these thinsg to make money. The endless expansion of the original service to dominate everthing and the drowning of the original service in extraneous areas is my main beef.

As for you saying the problem not being the social media/algorithm but stupid people: There will always be stupid people but now they are getting organised and fed dangerous rubbish in a way never before possible, so there is a problem for the rest of us.

I appreciate your point Sue. I think the benefit, at least to me, of search, maps and translate outweigh the downside. Instagram is a bit of fun.

Anyway back to Trac and Clarrie. Anyone is tradable for the right price.

I don't think we can get value out of a Clarrie trade in salray cap relief or picks so unless he's disruptive to culture I'd keep him.

I'd prefer to retain Trac too, but a trade for him could deliver value so I'd be open to that if it clearly benefitted the club.

Edited Saturday at 01:514 days by old55

I'll put my hand up to manage Tracs socials if i get to eat the food he makes! i had to unfollow him because i was getting too hungry and wanting to make it most days!

1 hour ago, sue said:

OD - I think I did say they built these thinsg to make money. The endless expansion of the original service to dominate everthing and the drowning of the original service in extraneous areas is my main beef.

As for you saying the problem not being the social media/algorithm but stupid people: There will always be stupid people but now they are getting organised and fed dangerous rubbish in a way never before possible, so there is a problem for the rest of us.

^^^^ this

Clayton Oliver has revealed he wants to remain at Melbourne next season, insisting he would like to repay the club and his teammates including skipper Max Gawn for helping him “sort my shit out”.

The Demons won’t make any firm decisions on the future of several of its high-profile contracted players with trade currency until a new coach is appointed before grand final day.

But while Oliver is uncertain about what that might mean for him heading into next month’s trade period, he indicated his preference was to stick with Melbourne, where he still has five years remaining on a deal worth more than $1.2m per season.

And he paid tribute to sacked coach Simon Goodwin, stressing that he owes his AFL career to his former mentor, as he vowed to do everything he can to return to his peak performance after a personally challenging past three seasons.

“I would love to stay at Melbourne, but whatever happens happens,” Oliver told this masthead at the Moonee Valley Racing Club’s Spring Launch. “I’m in a good place now.

“I’m loyal … I love the club, they’ve done everything for me.

“I love my teammates and I love the fans who’ve always been good to me. I want to stay, so fingers crossed.”

Oliver, 28, is one of Melbourne’s most decorated players, winning four best and fairests in his first seven seasons before personal and off-field issues saw his form decline in recent years.

He has been part of trade speculation across the past two off-seasons – with Adelaide expressing interest in him at the end of 2023 and he met with Geelong players after the Cats made a strong pitch to him before last year’s trade period when the Demons actively looked to off-load him for a time before changing their mind.

It is uncertain yet as to whether Melbourne would seek to trade Oliver, which would be difficult given his lucrative paycheck until the end of 2030, or retain him.

But Oliver stressed he could not thank the club enough for helping him get through the tough times, and even though he was shattered by Goodwin’s sacking last month, he made it clear he wants to buy into the road ahead for the Demons.

“Goody was great,” Oliver said. “He did everything for me.”

“I owe my whole career to him … (I) won four best and fairests, two coaches (association) awards and we won a premiership (2021).

“I stuffed up a few times in my career, but he always had my back and the whole club has always looked after me. I owe so much to Goody and Gawy, and Melbourne.”

Asked about the potential of Nathan Buckley taking over as the club’s new coach, Oliver said: “I don’t really care who gets the job …”

“The culture of the Dees has copped a bit of a hiding (in the media), but we’re not that bad.

“We weren’t too far away. We’ll get back there again.”

Oliver struggled for fitness and form in 2023 and 2024 and was again modest by his own lofty standards this year.

But he started to show a glimpse of better form again across the last six weeks, where he had four 100-plus ranking point games in that time.

“I think I was slowly getting back there, not last year (2024, when he struggled), but this year was a bit better,” he said. “I’ll be back.”

He was showing great form in the latter part of the season. I think we will see the best of Clayton next year. Wonder if he would be willing to take some sort of base pay cut and agree to be incentivised pased on accomplishments and KPI's?

3 minutes ago, Demon_JB said:

He was showing great form in the latter part of the season. I think we will see the best of Clayton next year. Wonder if he would be willing to take some sort of base pay cut and agree to be incentivised pased on accomplishments and KPI's?

I can’t see a player giving money back. If he thinks he can get back to his best than he is worth every cent. 🤞🤞🤞

11 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Clayton Oliver has revealed he wants to remain at Melbourne next season, insisting he would like to repay the club and his teammates including skipper Max Gawn for helping him “sort my [censored] out”.

The Demons won’t make any firm decisions on the future of several of its high-profile contracted players with trade currency until a new coach is appointed before grand final day.

But while Oliver is uncertain about what that might mean for him heading into next month’s trade period, he indicated his preference was to stick with Melbourne, where he still has five years remaining on a deal worth more than $1.2m per season.

And he paid tribute to sacked coach Simon Goodwin, stressing that he owes his AFL career to his former mentor, as he vowed to do everything he can to return to his peak performance after a personally challenging past three seasons.

“I would love to stay at Melbourne, but whatever happens happens,” Oliver told this masthead at the Moonee Valley Racing Club’s Spring Launch. “I’m in a good place now.

“I’m loyal … I love the club, they’ve done everything for me.

“I love my teammates and I love the fans who’ve always been good to me. I want to stay, so fingers crossed.”

Oliver, 28, is one of Melbourne’s most decorated players, winning four best and fairests in his first seven seasons before personal and off-field issues saw his form decline in recent years.

He has been part of trade speculation across the past two off-seasons – with Adelaide expressing interest in him at the end of 2023 and he met with Geelong players after the Cats made a strong pitch to him before last year’s trade period when the Demons actively looked to off-load him for a time before changing their mind.

It is uncertain yet as to whether Melbourne would seek to trade Oliver, which would be difficult given his lucrative paycheck until the end of 2030, or retain him.

But Oliver stressed he could not thank the club enough for helping him get through the tough times, and even though he was shattered by Goodwin’s sacking last month, he made it clear he wants to buy into the road ahead for the Demons.

“Goody was great,” Oliver said. “He did everything for me.”

“I owe my whole career to him … (I) won four best and fairests, two coaches (association) awards and we won a premiership (2021).

“I stuffed up a few times in my career, but he always had my back and the whole club has always looked after me. I owe so much to Goody and Gawy, and Melbourne.”

Asked about the potential of Nathan Buckley taking over as the club’s new coach, Oliver said: “I don’t really care who gets the job …”

“The culture of the Dees has copped a bit of a hiding (in the media), but we’re not that bad.

“We weren’t too far away. We’ll get back there again.”

Oliver struggled for fitness and form in 2023 and 2024 and was again modest by his own lofty standards this year.

But he started to show a glimpse of better form again across the last six weeks, where he had four 100-plus ranking point games in that time.

“I think I was slowly getting back there, not last year (2024, when he struggled), but this year was a bit better,” he said. “I’ll be back.”

Gotta respect him owning that he's been a headache for the club and wanting to repay the faith.

Heres how you do it Clarry. get back to your absolute best, prove all the doubters wrong and help melbourne win another flag.

26 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

Gotta respect him owning that he's been a headache for the club and wanting to repay the faith.

Heres how you do it Clarry. get back to your absolute best, prove all the doubters wrong and help melbourne win another flag.

Anyone who thinks Clarry doesn’t want that more than anything, is crazy.

Clarry has never intentionally done anything to hurt the club. He is very aware of how much the club has done for him.

A new coach and another full pre season with hopefully no interruptions and I truly believe we will see the best of Oliver again.

As the season went on and he got fitter you could see glimpses of his brilliance return.

It would be heartbreaking to see Clarry dominate for another club. Even worse if we pay for him to do it.