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Luke Jackson back to Victoria?

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1 hour ago, Deestar9 said:

Jackson says he’s staying ..his coach isn’t worried ..sounds like a beat up like the Clarry stories here. If it was true it’s been stated it would only be the MFC because of his relationship with Goody & some teammates. Half this forum want Goody gone …🤨

Course he does

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    21 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

    Come on, Red. Woey is not moving the dial in any direction.

    I agree, but if he was traded to the Eagles, like Hunt, I think he would be just about a regular best 22 atm.

    He therefore is worth something at least, which can be part of a trade involving several moving parts.

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    8 minutes ago, Stu said:

    This years trade period will be the first time we can trade picks two years in the future. While we don't have this years first pick, we can trade 2026 and 2027 picks to move up the draft order this year, or use those future picks to trade for players. MFC have been a trailblazer in future pick trading, considered the best in the AFL at it. I imagine that will continue with another years worth of picks to work with.

    Yeah, it's just whether the future picks that will be compromised by Tassie will be worth as much.

    A club might back us to finish in the bottom 4 and see it being worth the gamble.

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    Jeepers this is intriguing.

    If there is anyway to keep Kozzi and get Jacko, add in another decent mid (maybe a free agent) then we could be back in the hunt for the next 2 years whilst we still have Max and May.

    Sadly I don't know how it gets done without Kozzi being involved as there is no way that Freo would want draft picks as the team and age group they have should really seeing them push for a top 4-6 spot - especially with such a home ground advantage.

    I really rate Jacko but I think goal kicking mids (high half forwards) with skill and speed to burn right now are the most important part of the game. We have issues kicking goals already and losing Kozzi I think hurts us more than gaining Jacko.

    The other thing is that Freo have a couple players similar to Kozz so other than him being a gun, is he really a need for them?

    Hoping we can do everything we can to get him in for draft and future draft picks - like they did to us. Again - doubt they'd accept with him being contracted.

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    31 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

    Come on, Red. Woey is not moving the dial in any direction.

    I reckon he is but not in the right direction.

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    1 hour ago, roy11 said:

    It's an interesting one given we have some young WA talent and KP but if you jump on the comment seection that facebook page Flagmantle it seems their fans think its fair to do Luke Jackson for Pickett and a first rounder.

    Freo have a few like Treacy and Murphy Reid i'd like to have a chat to.

    I'd rather retain Pickett but think that's wishful thinking at this stage

    I think that means we are required to provide a first rounder back in addition to Kozzy… not the other way around.

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    5 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

    I think that means we are required to provide a first rounder back in addition to Kozzy… not the other way around.

    Yeh, just found it interesting that in this thread we're asking for a sweeter in the deal but Freo fans are wanting us to chuck in a first rounder as well.

    Enjoy the different club based perspectives on it.

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    Wouldn’t LJ be super handy as a utility through the middle and or floating forward to draw some defenders?

    Just speculating as we’ve never seen him at the MFC performing these roles

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    In reality what would Freo accept?

    Straight swap for Kozzy? Or we play hardball on Kozzy and offer Roo/McVee?

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    24 minutes ago, Deeko2 said:

    I really rate Jacko but I think goal kicking mids (high half forwards) with skill and speed to burn right now are the most important part of the game. We have issues kicking goals already and losing Kozzi I think hurts us more than gaining Jacko.

    Yep. I agree.

    If Jackson was an extremely strong contested mark and capable of kicking 1.5 a game as a resting forward, this would be super exciting. It's great that Jackson may want to return (although this is Seven West Media, so enormous grain of salt), and very handy that we once again have an obvious Gawn replacement, but I'm not thinking net positive at the moment.

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    When LJ left us in 2022 we got two firsts and a second. He's three years older now and not quite as advanced as hoped, so that might shave some value off. But he's still worth 2 firsts IMO.

    Kosi is in the same boat. Brad Green has stated three firsts or busts. More likely two will get it done.

    So a straight swap for Kosi OR if by some miracle Kosi stays, then two firsts is what it will take. I've already stated it on this thread but I'm 1 million percent on board with this.

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    3 minutes ago, SthSea22 said:

    In reality what would Freo accept?

    Straight swap for Kozzy? Or we play hardball on Kozzy and offer Roo/McVee?

    Maybe I'm completely blinded by nuffie glasses, but I'd expect if Pickett for Jackson was the start, we'd also want quite a buit more in addition.

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    1 hour ago, Adam The God said:

    The problem is if we can keep Kozzy, we might have to package up one or two of our WA boys...

    I'm not sure how this gets done if Kozzy wants to stay.

    While I agree it would be difficult, I would point to the Houston trade as an example of where a club has had to take unders because the market for that player was small

    Houston ruling out us and North, and Carlton focusing on the draft, essentially meant that only Collingwood was in a position to trade for him

    So while they did end up trading a future first and a couple of players (although in a four team deal), they ultimately were able to land Houston for far less than what he was worth, and Port had to choose between holding him to his contract or taking what they could get and run

    So while I think ultimately Kozzy for Jackson would be the likely deal, there is definitely a scenario where Kozzy stays, we get creative with future picks and player movements, and Freo ultimately has to decide whether they want to force a player to be unhappy with them or play ball

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    1 minute ago, demoncat said:

    While I agree it would be difficult, I would point to the Houston trade as an example of where a club has had to take unders because the market for that player was small

    Houston ruling out us and North, and Carlton focusing on the draft, essentially meant that only Collingwood was in a position to trade for him

    So while they did end up trading a future first and a couple of players (although in a four team deal), they ultimately were able to land Houston for far less than what he was worth, and Port had to choose between holding him to his contract or taking what they could get and run

    So while I think ultimately Kozzy for Jackson would be the likely deal, there is definitely a scenario where Kozzy stays, we get creative with future picks and player movements, and Freo ultimately has to decide whether they want to force a player to be unhappy with them or play ball

    Difference is Houston is older than LJ and was not contracted for years on a big deal.

    But like I said, LJ's big deal could actually be leverage for us. If we're pay his wage at the rate Freo locked in, then IMV they'd be owed less in terms of trade.

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    The speculation over Jackson's move first to W.A, then back to Casey sheds very reminiscent of 1970s legend, Arthur "Two-Sheds" Jackson:

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    Finish post.

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    Jackson for this and the next 2 years first rounders and we keep Kozz. Remembering that this year our first pick is in the second round and the following 2 are Tasmania affected.

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    20 minutes ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

    Maybe I'm completely blinded by nuffie glasses, but I'd expect if Pickett for Jackson was the start, we'd also want quite a buit more in addition.

    That is probably correct, as many in the AFL are calling Kozzie a superstar, which is not the same description for Jacko.

    Long term however I see Jacko as a bigger need for us, as his type is much harder to find and I see him having a longer AFL career than Kozzie.

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    3 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    25 pages. Expect this to reach 50 by July and 100 by October !!!

    It won't go past the No T$ no BS thread though, which has been going since 2011, nowhere near it.

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    Paul Roos and Flagmantle supporter and host Poppy Penny - great name! - talked about this on abc afl daily

    He proffered straight swap as easy solution and she, unsurprisingly, thought this was unfair for the shockers

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    BF are pointing out massive issues with LJ/missus and LJ fam/friends

    Might be a lot easier for us to get him back by the looks of it (Picks)

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    I’m just happy we are destabilising freo for once: they’ve been coming after our players ever since Jeff White.

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