Can we get someone back for him that's like for like (or better) that isn't just a pick in a crappier draft?

Gracious concession from PF to forgo the whisky.

Keep punching Ghosty. This one’s not on you.

3 hours ago, Jakkaa said:

Was he only offered a 2 yr contract to anyone’s knowledge?

We initially tabled a four year offer.

28 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Sooooo….

Anyone got some of that good news stuff….

29 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Sooooo….

Anyone got some of that good news stuff….

The good news is that the weak minded players who want the easy way out are leaving our club

Players like McVee, May & Petracca have been calling the shots for too long

The club is bigger than the individual & l can’t wait for King & the new Board to straighten this mob out

He’s not an easy player to value trade wise. I feel like pick 11 is overs but pick 29 is under. Maybe pick 11 drifting out to more like pick 15-17 post academy picks and such is better? Perhaps a later pick swap as well

Is Howes a decent enough replacement for McVee do people think?

13 minutes ago, Demongirl35 said:

I’m at the point where if we have to turn over half the list to get back to where we want to all go then so be it.

Sure. But it needs to be the right half. Losing McVee and possibly Trac is not a plus.

Judd was eager to promote himself to the #4 jumper. Can we still blame Jack Watts for this?

3 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Sure. But it needs to be the right half. Losing McVee and possibly Trac is not a plus.

One has apparently had a bit of a sook because he wants to play a certain position and nothing else and well Trac… we all know why. So I don’t care how good they are for us it means nothing when they’re not all in. If you’re not getting rid of bad attitudes at the club then you’re standing still.

Edited yesterday at 09:291 day by Demongirl35

1 minute ago, Greendale said:

Should be making a call to Caleb Serong this afternoon saying that he has a $2mil a year contract waiting if he joins as a free agent in 2028. With Essendon being such a basket case I think Freo now might be my most hated team. Put the squeeze on their salary cap whatever way possible.

Agree

18 minutes ago, bing181 said:

This is a bigger loss than some here are acknowledging. Judd was one of the central pillars to the team that was going to take us forward over the next 10 years, and often mentioned as such.

Yes, he had a down year, but he'd be a walk-up start in every team in the AFL, for good reason.

That's BS. He wouldn't make any of the top 8 sides on this year's form.

Rankine tore him a new one.

And he cost us the final in 2023 in the last minute. Jumped to spoil, missed everything & left Docherty to kick a goal.

Absolutely dumb play.

I wonder what his role was to be? I heard after proving himself he wanted to be a rebounding half back, but was being pigeon holed into a small lockdown type defender. We already have Bowie, Rivers, Salem and others who are superior in that role. Perhaps King or the footy department just don't think he had the chops to be the best option as a rebounder? He was poor when tried up the ground in midfield, so they weren't wrong on evidence of so.

Anyway disappointing as he's in the age bracket we need more talent, not less.

Enjoy WA Judd. Look forward to a rough reception next year.

8 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

We initially tabled a four year offer.

So was it reduced to a 2 year offer?

Just now, Jakkaa said:

So was it reduced to a 2 year offer?

At his request is what I believe

8 minutes ago, Young Angus said:

Is Howes a decent enough replacement for McVee do people think?

I'm excited for Andy Moniz Wakefield in the attacking half back role.

His game against Brisbane last year was a very encouraging sign that we've got a good player. I mean he was BOG in the praccy match against North early this year before he got injured late in that game.

As long he stays injury free, he could have a big year and easily replace Judd.

3 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

At his request is what I believe

Oh yeah well. Now it’s 1 year.

Cop that Judd.

5 minutes ago, Jakkaa said:

So was it reduced to a 2 year offer?

Yes, he didn’t want to sign for four years. My understanding, as @Jaded No More has said, is that it was reduced at his request.

Edited yesterday at 09:361 day by BLWNBA

15 minutes ago, Billy said:

The good news is that the weak minded players who want the easy way out are leaving our club

Players like McVee, May & Petracca have been calling the shots for too long

The club is bigger than the individual & l can’t wait for King & the new Board to straighten this mob out

May doesn’t want to go, it came from the club.

9 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Agree

That's BS. He wouldn't make any of the top 8 sides on this year's form.

Rankine tore him a new one.

And he cost us the final in 2023 in the last minute. Jumped to spoil, missed everything & left Docherty to kick a goal.

Absolutely dumb play.

Acres kicked the goal, but you were right on what happened, except you forgot to mention that Viney caused it, by kicking a horrible short kick straight to Weitering, that led to the Judd contest which he misjudged and then the pass to two Blues on Fritta.

Had Viney kicked it anywhere else, even out on the full, we win.

You’d think Ron Barassi was leaving. Judd had a poor 2025. His 1st and 2nd years were good but he came into the best backline in the game. A lot easier than debuting at North. He may or may not turn out to be a good player, but being ranked 426th in the AFL this year was actually a liability.

He lied to a respected member of this forum, and dragged this out to join a team where he has less opportunities. I hope he ends up trundling round the WAFL over there.

4 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

Yes, he didn’t want to sign for four years. My understanding, as @Jaded No More has said, is that it was reduced at his request.

The whole thing stinks

Even if it’s true that he and Lily separated, it doesn’t explain waiting for 12 odd months to sign a contract you were given and had amended multiple times.

Lots of excuses re: role, waiting for a new coach, but IMO Freo and his WA manager were in his ear all year and finally got what they wanted.

And if anyone says “home sick” I’ll remind you Judd is not from Perth, and WA has two teams.

Funny how he isn’t requesting a trade to the wooden spooners isn’t it?

6 minutes ago, Redleg said:

May doesn’t want to go, it came from the club.

I realise that, it’s more his off & on field behaviour that needed to dealt with

1 hour ago, GawnOfTheDead said:

I’ll just do a dump where he usually plays, they’ll know it’s about him for sure

It will be absolutely devastating to the entire league.

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

The whole thing stinks

Even if it’s true that he and Lily separated, it doesn’t explain waiting for 12 odd months to sign a contract you were given and had amended multiple times.

Lots of excuses re: role, waiting for a new coach, but IMO Freo and his WA manager were in his ear all year and finally got what they wanted.

And if anyone says “home sick” I’ll remind you Judd is not from Perth, and WA has two teams.

Funny how he isn’t requesting a trade to the wooden spooners isn’t it?

I’m assuming west coast have the first pre season draft pick so potentially that’s some leverage If Freo are annoying about the trade? I’m sure they’d pick him

2 minutes ago, Port Demons said:

Its officially reported.

2 minutes ago, Standard Deviation said:

He lied to a respected member of this forum, and dragged this out to join a team where he has less opportunities. I hope he ends up trundling round the WAFL over there.

You were there and heard the private conversation were you?