16 hours ago, deespicable me said:

Pick 23 for a best 22, 22 year old with upside to become a top 15 player is not good enough Lamb. We have never got above what we should have and consistently get below what we would like. Look at all our players playing around the league that we have got peanuts for. Bent over yet again. Honest Lamb could never be a used car saleman, he'd go out of business.

totally agree. the odds of picking up a 100-200 gamer are very small. he's worth a pick in the teens in a poor draft, and we didnt demand it. pathetic.

Just now, Ted Lasso said:

No i'm saying that if Judd wasn't good enough to get the role he wants at the 14th ranked side, he's probably going to struggle at a top 8 side.

So might love his life in the reserves.

15 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

No i'm saying that if Judd wasn't good enough to get the role he wants at the 14th ranked side, he's probably going to struggle at a top 8 side.

So might love his life in

1 hour ago, layzie said:

Freo are House and Land package salespeople.

They sell the the dream, the vision, they even get you to picture yourself in the place by selling a fancy role within the team but when the digging starts, you hit rock.

LJ and Jordan Clarke says hello

Good luck to Judd. I always liked the kid, sad he's not a dee but c'est la vie

24 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

No i'm saying that if Judd wasn't good enough to get the role he wants at the 14th ranked side, he's probably going to struggle at a top 8 side.

So might love his life in the reserves.

He played a role that no one in the dees could play is more the point,freo see a Jordan Clarke role,anyway we'll have to see.if he plays wafl ill be glad to be proven wrong

See ya cokhead, hope you never have success at Freo and regret [censored] on us.

Just now, doomsday dee said:

He played a role that no one in the dees could play is more the point,freo see a Jordan Clarke role,anyway we'll have to see.if he plays wafl ill be glad to be proven wrong

IF Judd was good enough, he'd have played the role he wanted, reality is that Bowey, Windsor, Rivers and Salem were all not only ahead of him for the role he wanted, but comfortably ahead of him.

That's nothing against Judd, i wish him well at Freo and hope he does prove me wrong, but i've seen no evidence he's anything more than a back pocket lockdown specialist. I think he could have been all australian in that team first role, but he's more interested in personal glory than being a team player so he'll fit in well at Freo and back with Mummy and Daddy.

2 minutes ago, layzie said:

Freo are House and Land package salespeople.

They sell the the dream, the vision, they even get you to picture yourself in the place by selling a fancy role within the team but when the digging starts, you hit rock.

Too right!

And they don't include a driveway, fence or Hills Hoist!

56 minutes ago, 58er said:

Dont be so salty and judgemental yes disappointed.

Think of our 13th flag and the many great games from the champs.

Treat them as Melb royalty as they deserve our overwhelming thanks.

Thanks guys if you go but secretly I don’t mind if you are about in 2026 and beyond again.

No

9 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

IF Judd was good enough, he'd have played the role he wanted, reality is that Bowey, Windsor, Rivers and Salem were all not only ahead of him for the role he wanted, but comfortably ahead of him.

That's nothing against Judd, i wish him well at Freo and hope he does prove me wrong, but i've seen no evidence he's anything more than a back pocket lockdown specialist. I think he could have been all australian in that team first role, but he's more interested in personal glory than being a team player so he'll fit in well at Freo and back with Mummy and Daddy.

Cuddle

Cuddle

WHACK!

Love ya work 👍

Once again, I'm sure in Freo's press release, Tim Lamb will be praised as being great to deal with....

In a universally agreed weak and compromised draft - why wouldn't you posture and hold for their pick 19.... instead of sealing this on day 2 of the trade period - even if you have to concede and take 23 later in the period - at least have a crack Tim!!

Judd’s strength is his ability with the play in front of him, particularly one on one.

His weakness is his ability to influence the game when the play is around him (ie, 360 degree chaos), like you see in the midfield. He struggled with this in juniors too, when he just couldn’t get involved in the play further up the field and ended up getting through to the rookie draft.

We did well to identify a role for that type of player, where the game could be much simpler for him and let his strengths work well. He works in straight lines, unlike Bowey and Salem, which is why they were preferred as rebounders. McVee has a shot up the field in the midfield but simply couldn’t get near the footy at all. It’s played away from his strengths and leant in to his weaknesses.

Freo tends to tell returning players exactly what they want to hear (eg, you can be a high possession player!) because they know that the trick is getting them to make the initial move back ‘home’. Once they’ve done that they can play them however they want since they’re unlikely to leave and it’s only a two team town. I hope that’s not the case for Judd as well but I don’t hope that as strongly as I used to.

Edited 6 hours ago6 hr by Axis of Bob

48 minutes ago, doomsday dee said:

He played a role that no one in the dees could play is more the point,freo see a Jordan Clarke role,anyway we'll have to see.if he plays wafl ill be glad to be proven wrong

Only problem promising a “Jordan Clarke role” is they have a similar player named “Jordan Clarke”… plus they have Young and a stacked midfield of lighter players not dissimilar to his attributes.

You’re obviously close with Judd and I’m sure you can see that 100 pages shows he was a well loved and highly rated talent. I hope he does great back home… but if he does happen to become a lockdown defender as @Axis of Bob has well put reasoning, then I hope when we play, Kossi kicks 10!

Bye Judd, devastated to see you go.

But we put the time and effort into you when no one else did. And its not a go home or family factor as you would have stated that as soon you could.

So [censored] off and I wish you nothing but poor form and wooden spoons, not injuries, thats too far!

1 hour ago, Axis of Bob said:

Judd’s strength is his ability with the play in front of him, particularly one on one.

His weakness is his ability to influence the game when the play is around him (ie, 360 degree chaos), like you see in the midfield. He struggled with this in juniors too, when he just couldn’t get involved in the play further up the field and ended up getting through to the rookie draft.

We did well to identify a role for that type of player, where the game could be much simpler for him and let his strengths work well. He works in straight lines, unlike Bowey and Salem, which is why they were preferred as rebounders. McVee has a shot up the field in the midfield but simply couldn’t get near the footy at all. It’s played away from his strengths and leant in to his weaknesses.

Freo tends to tell returning players exactly what they want to hear (eg, you can be a high possession player!) because they know that the trick is getting them to make the initial move back ‘home’. Once they’ve done that they can play them however they want since they’re unlikely to leave and it’s only a two team town. I hope that’s not the case for Judd as well but I don’t hope that as strongly as I used to.

Are Freo the kings of luring players “home” and then trading them out a few years later?

Hill, Hogan, Lobb, Acres.

Could have very well been Jackson again this year too.

We had no power really as he was out of contract and could have just walked to the eagles in the PSD with no compensation. No in terms of picks, 23 is reasonable for where he was at.

The problem is the draft system with all the academy picks and other incremental changes is pushing what would be a fair pick at 23 far further down the list.

Now its the jobs of the team to find a gem at 23 for the team

3 hours ago, Golden fist said:

Good luck to Judd. I always liked the kid, sad he's not a dee but c'est la vie

C'est la McVee! Old Scottish saying.

Will be fun to watch Kozzie kick a bag on him next season when he winds up playing the small lockdown role due to lack of opportunity and skill to be a first choice rebounder in a stacked midfield and half back line...

https://youtu.be/bMpHi55k9fE. I'm not very happy at all watching this.

I still blame him for the missed spoil in the Carlton final

Man he sounds enamoured with Jordan Clark lmao. Wouldn’t be surprise if Freos whole pitch was just pressing play on Clark’s AA highlights