Draft night - How it may work out?

[spirit of norm smith 16,171]

If … potential trade backs happen 

Kangas swap 2 for Tigers 6 and 20. 
(Tigers keen to get Jagga Smith) 

Dees swap 9 for Eagles 12 and 26  (Eagles keen jump ahead to get Allan) 

1. Tigers. Sam Lalor.
2. **Lions. Levi Ashcroft. 
3. Tigers. Jagga Smith.
4. Carlton. Finn O’Sullivan 
5. Adelaide. Sid Draper
6. Melbourne . Harvey Langford
7. Kangas. Alix Tauru.
8. **Suns. Leonardo Lombard 
9.  St Kilda. Josh Smillie
10. St Kilda. Harry Armstrong 
11. West Coast. Bo Allan. 
12. Tigers. Tobie Travaglia 
13. ** Ess. Isaac Kako
14. Tigers. Jobe Shanahan
15.  Melbourne … choices likely between
Xavier Lindsay or 
Taj Hotton or
Cooper Hynes 

2nd night … At pick “26”, ends up being pick 30 … choices likely between
Harrison Oliver or. 
James Barrat or. 
Hamish Davis
Clancy Dennis

Edited Friday at 22:00 by spirit of norm smith
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[Nascent 9,054]

15 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

If … potential trade backs happen 

Kangas swap 2 for Tigers 6 and 20. 
(Tigers keen to get Jagga Smith) 

Dees swap 9 for Eagles 12 and 26  (Eagles keen jump ahead to get Allan) 

1. Tigers. Sam Lalor.
2. **Lions. Levi Ashcroft. 
3. Tigers. Jagga Smith.
4. Carlton. Finn O’Sullivan 
5. Adelaide. Sid Draper
6. Melbourne . Harvey Langford
7. Kangas. Alix Tauru.
8. **Suns. Leonardo Lombard 
9.  St Kilda. Josh Smillie
10. St Kilda. Harry Armstrong 
11. West Coast. Bo Allan. 
12. Tigers. Tobie Travaglia 
13. ** Ess. Isaac Kako
14. Tigers. Jobe Shanahan
15.  Melbourne … choices likely between
Xavier Lindsay or 
Taj Hotton or
Cooper Hynes 

2nd night … At pick “26”, ends up being pick 30 … choices likely between
Harrison Oliver or. 
James Barrat or. 
Hamish Davis
Clancy Dennis

Is the West Coast - Melbourne trade a rumour that's out there? Apparently Saints are open to trading 7 or 8.

[spirit of norm smith 16,171]

My mate Rick is an eagles fanatic and says they will want Bo Allan (they’ll be embarrassed if they miss out on him). Says potential strong mid combo of Reid and Allan will destroy other midfielders like Clarry & Trac combo.  Saints might offer pick 8 for Eagles 12 & 26  ! Though Saints likely to offer 8 to Tigers for say 11 & 23. It’s going to be a very advanced sudoku puzzle on the night !!!!! 

[dazzledavey36 54,091]

Melbourne won't be moving up or down the draft order.

They'll stay as it is.

[Lucifers Hero 39,320]

5 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

My mate Rick is an eagles fanatic and says they will want Bo Allan (they’ll be embarrassed if they miss out on him). Says potential strong mid combo of Reid and Allan will destroy other midfielders like Clarry & Trac combo.  Saints might offer pick 8 for Eagles 12 & 26  ! Though Saints likely to offer 8 to Tigers for say 11 & 23. It’s going to be a very advanced sudoku puzzle on the night !!!!! 

WCE can offer a fab package for Saints ND8. 

In 2025 they have their own 1st, 2nd, 3rd round picks as well as Hawks 1st, 2nd and 3rd.  WCE can trade 2025 picks back into 2024 to satisfy Saints if that is what they want.

What a 'death ride' the Hawks will be for WCE fans!!

[Adam The God 30,026]

27 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Melbourne won't be moving up or down the draft order.

They'll stay as it is.

That's a big call.

[Demon Disciple 11,999]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Melbourne won't be moving up or down the draft order.

They'll stay as it is.

Something you’ve been told or pov? Either way I like it👍

[spirit of norm smith 16,171]

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Melbourne won't be moving up or down the draft order.

They'll stay as it is.

DD36.  I’m happy if that’s the case.  I’d like to keep 5 &9, to use on 2 elite midfielders.
 

Question is if the Eagles come with 12 & 26 on offer, would we take it … if we thought we were wanting to pick say for example Hynes at 9, would we just trade down and still be able to get him at 12 with the bonus of getting pick 26. Just a thought.  

[Mouseymoo 134]

7 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

DD36.  I’m happy if that’s the case.  I’d like to keep 5 &9, to use on 2 elite midfielders.
 

Question is if the Eagles come with 12 & 26 on offer, would we take it … if we thought we were wanting to pick say for example Hynes at 9, would we just trade down and still be able to get him at 12 with the bonus of getting pick 26. Just a thought.  

If we get to 9, and there's 4 blokes on the board we'd be happy with, then yeah we get 26 for free. If not, we just use 9. That's the logical play at least.. 

[hardtack 10,506]

7 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

DD36.  I’m happy if that’s the case.  I’d like to keep 5 &9, to use on 2 elite midfielders.

I’d love for us to get Smith at 5, but if not available, and Tauru is, I’d be happy for us to take a gamble on him and then with pick 9, take the best available mid.

[Oxdee 338]

15 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Melbourne won't be moving up or down the draft order.

They'll stay as it is.

Agree… 6 and 11 is an already a huge hand in this year’s draft. We picked well last year a landed quality. Windsor and kolt are 150+ gamers. Pick well this year and you can sure up the list. 

[The Jackson FIX 3,026]

6 hours ago, Oxdee said:

Agree… 6 and 11 is an already a huge hand in this year’s draft. We picked well last year a landed quality. Windsor and kolt are 150+ gamers. Pick well this year and you can sure up the list. 

Many here seem to think Kolt was a huge tick last year… he’s still a wait and see for me.  Windsor ENORMOUS tick, yes, but I didn’t see anything from Kolt which suggested he’s a guaranteed star. 

[Whispering_Jack 29,691]

16 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

DD36.  I’m happy if that’s the case.  I’d like to keep 5 &9, to use on 2 elite midfielders.
 

Question is if the Eagles come with 12 & 26 on offer, would we take it … if we thought we were wanting to pick say for example Hynes at 9, would we just trade down and still be able to get him at 12 with the bonus of getting pick 26. Just a thought.  

Can’t see this happening unless the Eagles get something else from somewhere. Otherwise they might get Bo Allen but after that nothing until pick 73 - a recipe for disaster if you’re a bottom side.

[adonski 11,611]

45 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Many here seem to think Kolt was a huge tick last year… he’s still a wait and see for me.  Windsor ENORMOUS tick, yes, but I didn’t see anything from Kolt which suggested he’s a guaranteed star. 

He'll make it.

I agree tho, the ceiling very much up for debate

[PaulRB 6,328]

2 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Many here seem to think Kolt was a huge tick last year… he’s still a wait and see for me.  Windsor ENORMOUS tick, yes, but I didn’t see anything from Kolt which suggested he’s a guaranteed star. 

I see Kolt a the apprentice to Jack Viney, tough contested relentless… a role that’s challenging until you’ve a couple of pre-seasons under your belt. Kolt loves contest, and has a strut that means he’ll be a team lifter and drawn to nailing his moments. 
lots to like about him. 

[Mouseymoo 134]

3 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Many here seem to think Kolt was a huge tick last year… he’s still a wait and see for me.  Windsor ENORMOUS tick, yes, but I didn’t see anything from Kolt which suggested he’s a guaranteed star. 

Kolt is an intriguing one to me also and probably one I'm following a lot more closely than any other recent draftee, I think because we gave up a bit to trade up and nothing about his skill set screams out to me. 

But I can see something. There's a doggedness about him that's just waiting for his body to catch up. It won't be through lack of trying or passion that he doesn't cement a spot in the 22

[adonski 11,611]

21 minutes ago, Mouseymoo said:

Kolt is an intriguing one to me also and probably one I'm following a lot more closely than any other recent draftee, I think because we gave up a bit to trade up and nothing about his skill set screams out to me. 

But I can see something. There's a doggedness about him that's just waiting for his body to catch up. It won't be through lack of trying or passion that he doesn't cement a spot in the 22

We need him to play some midfield mins and get decent disposal numbers to get full value out of him, rather than be strictly a medium sized fwd

[The Jackson FIX 3,026]

37 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

I see Kolt a the apprentice to Jack Viney, tough contested relentless… a role that’s challenging until you’ve a couple of pre-seasons under your belt. Kolt loves contest, and has a strut that means he’ll be a team lifter and drawn to nailing his moments. 
lots to like about him. 

Yep, not saying I don’t like him. Just feel like his first year was overrated by many on here. 

[demoncat 1,260]

3 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Many here seem to think Kolt was a huge tick last year… he’s still a wait and see for me.  Windsor ENORMOUS tick, yes, but I didn’t see anything from Kolt which suggested he’s a guaranteed star. 

To be fair to Kolt he probably should have spent most of his year at Casey, but our raft of injuries bought him in earlier than expected 

I think his fundamentals - getting to contests, applying pressure, staying involved in the play - are all really strong

His disposal and decision making left a bit to be desired at times, but I think a lot of that can be put down to a) being a first year player and b) still needing to build up his tank (as he would often start really strongly in games before fading)

Once he settles in and has a few more preseasons I think we’ll see some more of the X factor that he showed at his junior levels, and on a few occasions this year (his WC and GC games were really strong)

[binman 42,468]

3 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Many here seem to think Kolt was a huge tick last year… he’s still a wait and see for me.  Windsor ENORMOUS tick, yes, but I didn’t see anything from Kolt which suggested he’s a guaranteed star. 

Guaranteed star is a very high bar, but I saw plenty to suggest that if he puts the work in the kolt will become an A grader, a star.

Smart, good user, good footy iq, good hands - and has the key thing all stars have: x factor.

I tgink it  easy to be seduced by how quickly players like daicos and Windsor impact at AFL level.

But at the end of the day, kolt was in his first season of AFL football. With another preseason under his belt he will go up another level and a 60% damaging small forward, 40% inside mid.

Future looks very bright for the kolt IMV.

[Ted Lasso 19,191]

3 minutes ago, binman said:

Guaranteed star is a very high bar, but I saw plenty to suggest that if he puts the work in the kolt will become an A grader, a star.

Smart, good user, good footy iq, good hands - and has the key thing all stars have: x factor.

I tgink it  easy to be seduced by how quickly players like daicos and Windsor impact at AFL level.

But at the end of the day, kolt was in his first season of AFL football. With another preseason under his belt he will go up another level and a 60% damaging small forward, 40% inside mid.

Future looks very bright for the kolt IMV.

I agree, i saw enough to think Kolt has the makings of being a 200 game AFL player and a regular part of our best 22 for a long time. 

[spirit of norm smith 16,171]

5 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Many here seem to think Kolt was a huge tick last year… he’s still a wait and see for me.  Windsor ENORMOUS tick, yes, but I didn’t see anything from Kolt which suggested he’s a guaranteed star. 

Kolt is just a young man, only 19.  He has the inner competitive edge that JT often looks for.  His energy and strength will be as asset.  I see him as a Cam Rayner type, with his start being half forward and then rotation through the midfield as required.  

[Oxdee 338]

5 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Many here seem to think Kolt was a huge tick last year… he’s still a wait and see for me.  Windsor ENORMOUS tick, yes, but I didn’t see anything from Kolt which suggested he’s a guaranteed star. 

You do realise the kid played most of his matches whilst still 18? 
 

He averaged 12 possession and almost a goal a game. Your expectations are delusional 

[don cordner 204]

I thought the Kolt looked very tough and classy in the second half of 2024 Season

[2021 278]

Damn. I want North to stay at 2, and take The Viking. By the same token I wouldn't be that surprised if we took The Viking at 5, and it would be funny to mess up North's plans.

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