10 hours ago, picket fence said:

If this gets through we should shut up shop and play Amos 4th division next year!

That would be tough because the Amos only go down to 3rd division these days.

29 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Max is more marketable. He has charisma, he has wit. He is a natural born entertainer. 

Trac is not. Trac needs football, and a big following to be a social media star. 

That is the difference. 

And class. 

One final thing that I also want to address that there have been several users in this thread who have repeatedly ignored the rules that were clearly outlined. Despite multiple warnings, both in this thread and through the website's warning system, these individuals have now been banned.

That's how serious I am taking this.

It's unfortunate, as some of these users were long-time contributors to the site, and it's a shame that they couldn't follow some straightforward rules.

I want to make it clear that I do not enjoy enforcing bans or being heavy-handed in moderating this website. Some of the more recent rules have been implemented out of a legal necessity and an abundance of caution. In these cases, I was left with no choice but to take action, as I’ve reached my limit in trying to maintain fairness while also protecting the community.

I truly appreciate your cooperation and understanding as we work to keep this platform safe and enjoyable for everyone.

6 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Hi Andy,

I’ve gone through all your directives in this thread, but I’m still a bit unclear. Are you emphasising that it’s crucial we avoid naming or blaming private individuals on this platform? Because if that’s what you’re saying, then I’m understanding it to mean that it’s essential not to name or blame private individuals here.

Please confirm if that’s correct.

Thanks,

qd

Dude. You really don't want to push my limits at the moment. I like to joke around as much as the next guy but I'm fucking serious here. Lucky you posted a picture of a dog.

32 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Max is more marketable. He has charisma, he has wit. He is a natural born entertainer. 

Trac is not. Trac needs football, and a big following to be a social media star. 

That is the difference. 

Besides, how many times can you demonstrate how to cook spag bol on Insta?

1 minute ago, Deeman said:

Besides, how many times can you demonstrate how to cook spag bol on Insta?

It would wear out a lot quicker than George Gawn singing 17 rival club songs, that's for sure! 

#BrandGeorgeGawn

4 hours ago, JTR said:

I'm also curious about the response he will get if it doesn't.

He can't change what's happened and been said. 
 

I’ll still boo him next year even if he’s in our jumper.

1 minute ago, Deeman said:

Besides, how many times can you demonstrate how to cook spag bol on Insta?

I think so too. I think his followers will dry up the moment he leaves the football scene as well.
 

This whole ****show has shown his true colours and in the current world, his entitled attitude won’t appeal to many people let alone sponsors. 

2 minutes ago, von said:

I’ll still boo him next year even if he’s in our jumper.

I thought about this too and was really on the fence. 

In the end it depends on if and how he can redeem himself from this point. 

1 hour ago, Adam The God said:

Not sure I agree with this...

You don't make exceptions for one person.

One of his alleged gripes is apparently that we make exceptions for some when we shouldn't.

The idea that the club will fold if Trac leaves is just hyperbole. I presume this was written in an emotional moment.

I wrote that 2.5 weeks ago when the story first broke. 

If the truth lies at the Trac end of the spectrum, and the club has messed up as much as he is going to allege, then it will all come out, and we will go into 2025 with our formerly most popular, talented and marketable player playing somewhere else whilst we try to get out of the bottom 6 with potentially no big name recruits to add to the list, playing in front of tiny crowds in dud timeslots, and ongoing off field distractions. 

It may have been hyperbolic and was definitely driven by emotion but I don’t think it’s that outlandish.

fwiw, here's an aunty report in the wake of neale's mooted move back to flagmantle in the wake of the 2021 season: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-08/lachie-neale-dad-afl-trade-reports-brisbane-lions-fremantle/100442880

similarly to trac, he never officially requested a trade, was able to return to the bears, be made their skipper in subsequent years, and win another brownlow as well as lead them to a grand final last year

35 minutes ago, Demonland said:

......I have been threatened with legal action if certain names appear on this website. ....

That is incredible pressure. Someone must have something to hide if you can't even say "X is a jolly good fellow" even in a thread about jolly good fellows.

50 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

It does if you assume this is simply not about football.  The genie is out of the bottle.  His account has grown 2+ percent this month. His engagement rate (comments and likes per followers) is through the absolute roof.  His google searches is high. These are his key performance metrics now.   As much as we may not like it Brand Petracca is crushing it right now. 

Integrity, loyalty and character is not needed for social media status and sponsorship.  In fact I'd argue the more ego driven the higher you go.   Will he permanently damage his brand? If it lasted years, of course.  But if it's a 2 month surge he will be much further ahead.   Will another club worry of the sort of person they re bringing in?  Well, plenty of clubs are willing to overlook past records etc.  He will say he's happy to be there, get back to work and they will lap it up, especially if he is able them to get them to a GF on the cheap.    Frankly, this sort of stuff happens in other professional sporting codes regularly, this was always destined to happen to AFL, sucks it's us. 

A case of any publicity being good publicity? I guess if they covert that increase into permanent viewers then it works. 

Sounds like it's out of the Conor McGregor or Jake/Logan Paul book. 

With the recent confirmation that some of our players do in fact read Demonland, I'm beginning to wonder if perhaps this is Petracca getting revenge for that one time we all called him fat on here?

41 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Hard to believe but someone in my office, a Collingwood supporter, actually told me yesterday that Max should've retired two years ago.

Basically inferring that he is overrated and past his due date. 😆

That's garbage but there is an argument to say the club has been built around Max and the game plan is in essence kick it to Max down the line.

I love Max but IMO its the cause of a lot of the onfield issues. Arguably its why the Grundy trade didn't work. The club and Max weren't prepared to compromise and Grundy had limited flexibility onfield.

18 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Dude. You really don't want to push my limits at the moment. I like to joke around as much as the next guy but I'm [censored] serious here. Lucky you posted a picture of a dog.

I was making the point to other posters. But I concede it is a little ambiguous and opaque. My point was to support you - not make fun.

Edited August 28, 20241 yr by Queanbeyan Demon

4 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

I think so too. I think his followers will dry up the moment he leaves the football scene as well.
 

This whole ****show has shown his true colours and in the current world, his entitled attitude won’t appeal to many people let alone sponsors. 

By numbers the majority of Trac5 followers are not interested in football.  Trac5 is over 2 times his personal account and growing pretty fast.  

I would not be surprised if he did speak or issue a statement it will be through his ig page.  

2 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

fwiw, here's an aunty report in the wake of neale's mooted move back to flagmantle in the wake of the 2021 season: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-08/lachie-neale-dad-afl-trade-reports-brisbane-lions-fremantle/100442880

similarly to trac, he never officially requested a trade, was able to return to the bears, be made their skipper in subsequent years, and win another brownlow as well as lead them to a grand final last year

Neale was exploring moving back to Perth for family reasons. There is no evidence he had a problem with the Lions or teammates. It was no big deal for him to change his mind which he did quickly after the story broke. Totally different to the Tracc situation. 

1 hour ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Not to water down Trac’s traumatic experience, but pretty much every woman who’s given birth via c-section is awake during abdominal surgery.

Also, the headline from triple m was misconstrued. The surgeon asked for the number after his surgery was finished, not before, which I assume was primarily to tell his family he was out of surgery.

Standard procedure

1 minute ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

I was making the point to other posters.

I know but ...

Wait ... too soon?

I'm back.

2 hours ago, Dee Viney Intervention said:

To be honest I would have delisted Smith. 

You can't. He is contracted (until Oct 31) and as yet remains innocent

After Oct 31 he is probably gone

I took a straw poll amongst the Carlton fans at work today. No way do they want to swap trac for harry mckay. Not sure how representative of the broader Carlton faithful but they were pretty emphatic. His age is also a concern.

i think trac and us are overestimating his value.

Just now, Demonland said:

I know but ...

Wait ... too soon?

I'm back.

I wouldn’t have your job this week for all the coffee in Melbourne. Honestly, I'd rather wrestle a croc in a bathtub! Hang in there - you're the ringmaster in a partially out of control circus. You have my support Bro.

3 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Standard procedure

There’s definitely some mayo there. I don’t doubt he was in critical condition due to primarily blood loss.
 

But for surgeons to lose a patient presenting with his condition would be very unlikely. 

3 hours ago, chookrat said:

The only fact is that Tracc is dealing with trauma. At no point has he, his manager or the club stated that he is seeking a trade.

I would be pretty certain that the club didn't leak information from his exit meeting. Join the dots.