18 minutes ago, binman said:

Hard not think it was a blessing in disguise missing finals - particularly if we land a gun at pick 5.

won't know that til we see the results in 2025, and beyond

win a premiership with this cohort some time during the may - gawn - viney dotage, and yes, it might well be the season we had to have

i want to see us 'bounce' next year at a minimum

Edited September 26, 2024Sep 26 by whatwhat say what

Wrong thread

 

Edited September 26, 2024Sep 26 by Macca

7 hours ago, layzie said:

That Carlton game literally split this place down the middle. Some even suggesting that breaking even with them from midway through the 2nd to midway through the last was a positive instead of Carlton answering our challenges, steadying the ship and clearly being the better side on the night. 

Only reason we were in that Carlton game was because Trac went into god mode 

See that gossip column journo Damo is at it again in his “if and when” dribble. Geelong would have finished 12th if not for his man crush Scott’s coaching (never a negative word against the Cats) and Petracca still on the table for trade. Ah well, I clicked on it so has the desired outcome. 

On 26/09/2024 at 10:55, Lexinator said:

To be honest, every time I go to this thread it's got 10+ pages of unread posts so my reply probably out of context now anyway.

Good points. It's more than likely learned behaviour anyway and trauma response to being such a bad team for long peroids of time of their lives. I have been the same but shaken it off years ago.

A realistic view on each season is 1 in 18 chance every time to be premiers, need good management of the club in every facet, healthy players physically, mentally and emotionally, good form and best form during finals, and a bit of luck and that still doesn't guarantee you a GF, let alone winning it. 

But victims? Sheesh, far out. It's a sport, a game and we can't control anything because we are just the fans.

Anyway, I realise this is a CP5 thread so I'll vanish like a fart in the wind into another thread. 

 

I just drink a lot it helps no end

On 26/09/2024 at 12:20, Sir Windsor said:

I have flopped in my view on Tracs red bull trip. Earlier I was of the view he was doing it to turn up in top top shape for pre season. I still think that is partially true.

However Gawny mentioned on on MMM in his usual spot that Trac was upset about the camps timing prior to his injury. 
 

I genuinely now wonder whether Trac is using the current situation to bend the will of the club to let him go on this camp.

Is this the only camp globally available to athletes? Could he have attended another camp and a BNF? Im starting to think where there is a will there is a way. I get the feeling that we are potentially creating new issues where we are treating our players based on their star factor.  

Speaking of new issues just created by your honourable self, i am having trouble with the points here.

On 26/09/2024 at 12:48, Dr. Gonzo said:

I agree and I'm of the same opinion, making prelims is the pass mark as that gives you a shot to win the flag. Anything can happen in Prelims as we saw with the Cats on the weekend, GWS last year etc

It's the same stance I have for the NFL, you make the final 4 (AFC/NFC Championship Games) and that shows you are a good team. After that is when luck kicks in and the fittest/luckiest teams can go all the way.

I think we should have won another flag, but we definitely should have made the prelims to give us that chance.

I had the impression the AFL were concerned that players like Max,Brayshaw, Petracca  and Goody were just too popular, and sticking it up the Media Rabble was too much to swallow. Things just escalated from there as they couldn't really handle it.

On 26/09/2024 at 00:50, binman said:

I suspect, when the outliers are removed the median response would be at best the strength of our list is equal to those clubs.

On paper.

The team you're able to get on the field and keep on the field (consistency) is something else.

On 26/09/2024 at 00:57, binman said:

The Cats, swans and lions have a model that rejects the idea of bottoming out

Helped along by the specifics of their situation: Academy picks, extra cap space, location etc. etc. 

(Not disagreeing with your premise either).

3 minutes ago, bing181 said:

On paper.

The team you're able to get on the field and keep on the field (consistency) is something else.

Absolutely.

No coincidence of course that our two most successful years under goody, 2018 and 2021, directly correlate to seasons with a great run with injury

Or that our two least successful seasons, 2019 and this year correlate with a wretched run with injury.

5 minutes ago, binman said:

No coincidence of course that our two most successful years under goody, 2018 and 2021, directly correlate to seasons with a great run with injury

No coincidence either that in both of those seasons we missed finals the preceding year.

(i.e. longer off-season/break).

13 minutes ago, bing181 said:

No coincidence either that in both of those seasons we missed finals the preceding year.

(i.e. longer off-season/break).

Let's hope there's another non coincidence next year - as in what happened the year after we last missed finals!

Max is the guest on today's episode of "The Footy with Broden Kelly"

It's worth a listen - always good to hear Max talk, but he talks about the effect of the shorter pre-seasons and how, for the first time in a while, they have a good headstart for season '25.

Edited September 27, 2024Sep 27 by Alex No Fancy-name

1 hour ago, Alex No Fancy-name said:

Max is the guest on today's episode of "The Footy with Broden Kelly"

It's worth a listen - always good to hear Max talk, but he talks about the effect of the shorter pre-seasons and how, for the first time in a while, they have a good headstart for season '25.

 

"This break is exactly what we needed". 

From 25:55

 

10 hours ago, Maxie said:

See that gossip column journo Damo is at it again in his “if and when” dribble. Geelong would have finished 12th if not for his man crush Scott’s coaching (never a negative word against the Cats) and Petracca still on the table for trade. Ah well, I clicked on it so has the desired outcome. 
 

 

10 hours ago, Maxie said:

See that gossip column journo Damo is at it again in his “if and when” dribble. Geelong would have finished 12th if not for his man crush Scott’s coaching (never a negative word against the Cats) and Petracca still on the table for trade. Ah well, I clicked on it so has the desired outcome. 

Gotta say I was pretty peed off when I read this. So the only thing Barrett has to say about us is some clap trap about CP. If I met him right now, it would be swift knee to the goulies followed by the Liverpool kiss

Edited September 27, 2024Sep 27 by Guest

Christian Petracca was probably a sneaky chance to win the Brownlow Medal if he hadn't got injured.

However, Patrick Cripps getting 45 votes was absolutely ridiculous.

At least Nick Daicos missed out with an equally amazing 38 votes.

Would love to see Christian Petracca, Clayton Oliver or Max Gawn win a Brownlow Medal. But more Premiership Medallions for the Demons are highly more desirable!

The reason Cripps got 45 votes is clearly because they have no other good midfielders. We have had CP5 and Clarry fighting each other (metaphorically) for votes. 
 

If CP5 really does want to go, Carlton clearly need him....

On 27/09/2024 at 10:41, Maxie said:

See that gossip column journo Damo is at it again in his “if and when” dribble. Geelong would have finished 12th if not for his man crush Scott’s coaching (never a negative word against the Cats) and Petracca still on the table for trade. Ah well, I clicked on it so has the desired outcome. 

Barrett is a bottom feeder that tries to generate 'stories'. Just saw him on the Sunday Footy Show trying to trade Harry McKay out of Carlton again, this time to Brisbane Lions 🤦‍♂️ 

4 minutes ago, No. 31 said:

Barrett is a bottom feeder that tries to generate 'stories'. Just saw him on the Sunday Footy Show trying to trade Harry McKay out of Carlton again, this time to Brisbane Lions 🤦‍♂️ 

Barrett probably got bullied quite a bit at school and developed his obnoxious and abrasive manner from this.

If he was bullied more he might have had a deeper insight into what a [censored] of a man he is.

2 hours ago, Ollie fan said:

The reason Cripps got 45 votes is clearly because they have no other good midfielders. We have had CP5 and Clarry fighting each other (metaphorically) for votes. 
 

If CP5 really does want to go, Carlton clearly need him....

Partially true. Cripps was the Carlton midfield this season. Sam Walsh had a parial pre-season and ongoing back issues (and still got 16 votes) and Cerra had multiple hamstrings, barely played this season.

If Walsh was fully fit, there is no way known Cripps could get 45 votes this season.

Next season, Trac will take votes off Crippa so two Brownlows it will have to have to be for PC9. Hmmm #9, #5 ... 1995 ... its all starting to make sense now 😜

Edited September 29, 2024Sep 29 by No. 31

39 minutes ago, No. 31 said:

Barrett is a bottom feeder that tries to generate 'stories'. Just saw him on the Sunday Footy Show trying to trade Harry McKay out of Carlton again, this time to Brisbane Lions 🤦‍♂️ 

There appears no good reason why he remains in the media yet he seems to float up to the surface of the septic tank every year 

 

51 minutes ago, No. 31 said:

Barrett is a bottom feeder that tries to generate 'stories'. Just saw him on the Sunday Footy Show trying to trade Harry McKay out of Carlton again, this time to Brisbane Lions 🤦‍♂️ 

That's due to Daniher "retiring" and going back to TWSNBN for a million a year or more.

1 hour ago, reynolds46 said:

There appears no good reason why he remains in the media yet he seems to float up to the surface of the septic tank every year 

 

David King was no different and had Fagan sacked after round 6 or 7 from memory.

Too many blokes trying to make themselves relevant making ridiculous headlines among a cesspool of journalists 

1 hour ago, Willmoy1947 said:

That's due to Daniher "retiring" and going back to TWSNBN for a million a year or more.

Would it be possible to enlighten me in what or who TWSNBN is.

Also what role did Joe Daniher have and when was he there?

Thanks in advance.

2 hours ago, Willmoy1947 said:

That's due to Daniher "retiring" and going back to TWSNBN for a million a year or more.

Harry is not on the market and he doesn't want to go anywhere. This has been made clear to everyone recently when his name was floated (with no basis in reality) with Petracca possibly leaving the Dees. Barrett probably just wants to generate cheap clicks and views, a barrel scraper.