The question for me is: are we on an improving trajectory or not? All the talk of the lag before the so-called ‘new game plan’ starts working etc can only go so far. Eventually, the team has to be evaluated for trajectory.

The answer is clear: our trajectory is downwards and has been for some years. Whatever the reason, in any institution or organisation the top leadership has to take responsibility - that is why they are paid so much over the odds.

There are lots of overpaid senior players as well who appear to be on a downward trajectory and others like JVR who are simply not up to the task.

I saw an article this week that analysed the shift away from contested strategies at the centre to a new ‘outside’ dynamic. MFC is still trying to reinvent itself with the former and the players who excelled in the past with that strategy are not suited to the new way.

I would terminate the senior coach (nicely) this morning.

6 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

We are not a high performance organization. Five minutes of sunshine in 60 years.

Sadly ...true

he obviously can't fix the issues. if he could, he would have done it by now

we need some aggressive list turnover no doubt.

but I'm not handing the keys to someone who has been unable to make any discernible improvements in our game plan after 2 years of trying

he had us primed in 2021 and at the pointy end in 22 and 23.

since then its been downhill as the game has changed and the rest of the league have adapted

We need new leadership and direction. a new voice and ideas

Thank you Simon for a fantastic run there for a few years. you're a legend of the club no matter what happens from here

1 hour ago, BDA said:

he obviously can't fix the issues. if he could, he would have done it by now

we need some aggressive list turnover no doubt.

but I'm not handing the keys to someone who has been unable to make any discernible improvements in our game plan after 2 years of trying

he had us primed in 2021 and at the pointy end in 22 and 23.

since then its been downhill as the game has changed and the rest of the league have adapted

We need new leadership and direction. a new voice and ideas

Thank you Simon for a fantastic run there for a few years. you're a legend of the club no matter what happens from here

If nothing more he is just damaging his legacy by unnecessarily extending his tenure.

If its anything to go off based on what David Zita was saying on FOX after the game then get use to having Goody "for 2026 and beyond" He said the club fully backs Goodwin and want to add experience players and not get younger

Tough pill to swallow losing last night in itself but then to hear that news was even more deflating.

He can’t even build a game plan to beat a Carlton VFL side

We just need a good coach with new ideas & a modern game plan, not the the king of spin & the players best mate

Goodwins press conferences are embarrassing & cringe worthy, talks for six minutes and says nothing

The club is in free fall, the new CEO & President are on holiday, so Goodwin will get another year

What a joke of an organisation

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If its anything to go off based on what David Zita was saying on FOX after the game then get use to having Goody "for 2026 and beyond" He said the club fully backs Goodwin and want to add experience players and not get younger

Tough pill to swallow losing last night in itself but then to hear that news was even more deflating.

I hoping the words of ‘fully backs’ are the kiss of death Dazzle. Surely the club is looking around for another coach….

Or, at least have a plan B such as bringing in an assistant coach for a succession plan in 2027.

9 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

That's it - a supporter since the late 60's & a member for 25+ years but no more until Goodie the 🤡 resigns.

Cranky, i have not seen one sign in all your posts that you support the club. You criticise it more viciously and consistently than any Collingwood or Carlton or whoever supporter does. You are not a supporter at all. So please, honour the promise you have made in this post.

9 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If its anything to go off based on what David Zita was saying on FOX after the game then get use to having Goody "for 2026 and beyond" He said the club fully backs Goodwin and want to add experience players and not get younger

Tough pill to swallow losing last night in itself but then to hear that news was even more deflating.

Who is David Zita sorry for asking?

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If its anything to go off based on what David Zita was saying on FOX after the game then get use to having Goody "for 2026 and beyond" He said the club fully backs Goodwin and want to add experience players and not get younger

Tough pill to swallow losing last night in itself but then to hear that news was even more deflating.

I will not support this club, buy membership if S.G is senior coach in 2026. In fact I will not post on this site again! DONE AND DUSTED!

Edited July 19Jul 19 by picket fence

4 minutes ago, picket fence said:

I will not support this club, buy membership if S.G is senior coach in 2026. In fact I will not post on this site again! DONE AND DUSTED!

Yes you will and you know you will, because you're a tragic, same as the rest of us

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If its anything to go off based on what David Zita was saying on FOX after the game then get use to having Goody "for 2026 and beyond" He said the club fully backs Goodwin and want to add experience players and not get younger

Tough pill to swallow losing last night in itself but then to hear that news was even more deflating.

Club is delusional, members/supporters will vote with their feet not turn up or not buy memberships! We were deplorable, playing 1 qtr doesn't cut it, he’s unwound every aspect of what we were, he’s record since 21 is poor, we will win less games than last year & another bottom 6 Finnish, the blind faith for winning a flag 4 seasons ago sums up our cub , one hit wonders

19 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

Cranky, i have not seen one sign in all your posts that you support the club. You criticise it more viciously and consistently than any Collingwood or Carlton or whoever supporter does. You are not a supporter at all. So please, honour the promise you have made in this post.

Ollie, I have not seen one sign in all your posts that you are able of critically analysing the club. You defend it more viscously and consistently than any Collingwood or Carlton or whoever supporter does. You are not a supporter at all, in fact you may have Stockholm syndrome. Please seek help.

2 hours ago, William said:

The question for me is: are we on an improving trajectory or not? All the talk of the lag before the so-called ‘new game plan’ starts working etc can only go so far. Eventually, the team has to be evaluated for trajectory.

The answer is clear: our trajectory is downwards and has been for some years. Whatever the reason, in any institution or organisation the top leadership has to take responsibility - that is why they are paid so much over the odds.

There are lots of overpaid senior players as well who appear to be on a downward trajectory and others like JVR who are simply not up to the task.

I saw an article this week that analysed the shift away from contested strategies at the centre to a new ‘outside’ dynamic. MFC is still trying to reinvent itself with the former and the players who excelled in the past with that strategy are not suited to the new way.

I would terminate the senior coach (nicely) this morning.

I don’t think there’s any realistic world in which he gets sacked before Guerra and Smith have started, whether we like it or not.

That aside, I think (aside from your gratuitous drive by on JVR) your post is fair.

We can’t just sit behind the “we’re changing how we play and change takes time” rhetoric. We’re still losing games the same way, and losing them to bad sides to boot.

5 of our 12 losses this year have been to the bottom 8. I’d argue all 5 have been our worst 5 games, too (maybe the GC thrashing is up there). Losing to the top 9 is one thing, and had we had a middling season of beating weaker sides but not being able to match it with better ones, I’d cop the “change takes time” thing a touch more. I’d obviously like to see some better evidence of a new, workable, efficient gameplan which appears to be capable of driving us to a flag, of course.

But to have a muddled team consistently losing to bottom 8 sides, the same way most times too (slow start, more scoring shots, more inside 50s, inaccuracy), and finishing the year with 6-8 wins only, with the best run with injuries we’ve had in years, is unacceptable.

28 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If its anything to go off based on what David Zita was saying on FOX after the game then get use to having Goody "for 2026 and beyond" He said the club fully backs Goodwin and want to add experience players and not get younger

Tough pill to swallow losing last night in itself but then to hear that news was even more deflating.

I would love to know who Zita spoke to. I have no trust in the club knowing where we are at. My biggest concern with replacing Goodwin has been I don’t trust the club to find someone better, still don’t.

46 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If its anything to go off based on what David Zita was saying on FOX after the game then get use to having Goody "for 2026 and beyond" He said the club fully backs Goodwin and want to add experience players and not get younger

Tough pill to swallow losing last night in itself but then to hear that news was even more deflating.

[censored] that !!!

Longmire or Enright.

Get it done asap.

56 minutes ago, Nietaphart said:

I hoping the words of ‘fully backs’ are the kiss of death Dazzle. Surely the club is looking around for another coach….

Or, at least have a plan B such as bringing in an assistant coach for a succession plan in 2027.

A succession plan headed by Goody?

No thanks

2 minutes ago, Billy said:

A succession plan headed by Goody?

No thanks

I agree Billy, but it is the lessor of two evils. I like plan A better. Goodwin and Richardson moved out.

If your happy to win a wooden spoon next year by all means let's keep Goody.

Those who say, not his fault.....whose is it?

8 hours ago, Heart Beats True said:

Just watched his presser and he looks angry and defeated. He trotted out the usual jargon but was particularly upset about our slow start. I honestly think he is out of ideas and doesn’t know how to drive change.

*Nathan Buckley has entered the room

@john delosa I think we need some more ‘thumbs down’ in this thread!

8 minutes ago, Billy said:

A succession plan headed by Goody?

No thanks

Great idea lets get one of his essendon mates

34 minutes ago, ANG13 said:

I would love to know who Zita spoke to. I have no trust in the club knowing where we are at. My biggest concern with replacing Goodwin has been I don’t trust the club to find someone better, still don’t.

Pretty sure he did say he spoke to high official at the club. May have said Guerra? I can't recall sorry..

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Pretty sure he did say he spoke to high official at the club. May have said Guerra? I can't recall sorry..

Anyone... Anyone at Melbourne would do well to engage brain and just STFU. If they repeat the f-up of prematurely endorsing Goody then they will be culpable for destroying membership of the club.

People are ALREADY leaving in droves