Time to go Goody?

[Edward Langdon 96]

What’s the pass mark for SG next year in terms of wins in order to see out his contract for 2026?

We’re all mature annd smart enough football followers to understand that coaches have been getting sacked a year before their contract expires since Adam was a young lad.

I understand and am very sensitive to the fact that many posters here love the coach dearly and would be heart broken if he were to ever be removed. However I have grave fears for SG if we don’t improve next year.

[Adam The God 29,941]

On 07/10/2024 at 15:05, rpfc said:

Cant replace your best players.

Last year we were missing 3 of our top 6 players for half a season or more.

*Oliver without a pre-season I consider missing. He is not 2024. He may never be what he was, but he can be more than 2024.

Exactly. Take Neale out of Brisbane and they don't win the flag.

[biggestred 4,972]

10 minutes ago, Edward Langdon said:

What’s the pass mark for SG next year in terms of wins in order to see out his contract for 2026?

We’re all mature annd smart enough football followers to understand that coaches have been getting sacked a year before their contract expires since Adam was a young lad.

I understand and am very sensitive to the fact that many posters here love the coach dearly and would be heart broken if he were to ever be removed. However I have grave fears for SG if we don’t improve next year.

Finals, or no finals with acceptable reasons such as lots of injuries

[The heart beats true 18,076]

21 minutes ago, Edward Langdon said:

We’re all mature and smart enough football followers…

There’s a security guard at the MCG who’d argue I’m not.

[Dee Viney Intervention 1,885]

Win a final in Melbourne 

[Demon Disciple 11,971]

Nothing less than winning at least 1 final.

[picket fence 16,970]

31 minutes ago, Dee Viney Intervention said:

Win a final in Melbourne 

Ho ho ya gotta get there first!! If we are 2 wins, 4 loses after 6 He will and should be sacked! Lets stop [censored] footing around, however... if he is 4 wins 2 loses he keeps his job...! For a while yet

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,756]

2 hours ago, Adam The God said:

Exactly. Take Neale out of Brisbane and they don't win the flag.

Well he was kinda hobbling on one foot in the end, but I guess he held it together for long enough to get them over the line hey!  A bit like Steve May in 2021. 

I remember reading Leigh Mathew's autobiography and one of his big take away is that good luck with injuries is pretty key to winning a flag.  Similar to the aforementioned Neale and May examples Mathew's did also admit that Jonathan Brown was pretty banged up in one of the Lions three peat flags, but passed a fitness test and thus played.  I'm thinking that there is probably some value in star players just being out their to soak up some opposition attention even if they don't have a huge impact in their own right, so long as they can bluff it well enough.

Edited October 24 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

[Little Goffy 14,386]

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

Ho ho ya gotta get there first!! If we are 2 wins, 4 loses after 6 He will and should be sacked! Lets stop [censored] footing around, however... if he is 4 wins 2 loses he keeps his job...! For a while yet

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,756]

4 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Yeah, well they were 2 wins and 5 losses (your point I'm guessing) after a bunch of almost seasons. If only Picket was in charge of the Lions maybe a decent coach could have been put in charge and won them the flag!

[Dee Viney Intervention 1,885]

On 24/10/2024 at 21:31, picket fence said:

Ho ho ya gotta get there first!! If we are 2 wins, 4 loses after 6 He will and should be sacked! Lets stop [censored] footing around, however... if he is 4 wins 2 loses he keeps his job...! For a while yet

Agree and that is my point. We absolutely get there. Further to that we need to finish high enough that we host the game at the MCG and win it. That is the pass. Goodwin has to be the coach under the most heat in 2025. You can’t go Premiership, out in straight sets in Melbourne two years in a row to not even making finals and not be. 

[binman 42,419]

On 24/10/2024 at 19:30, Adam The God said:

Exactly. Take Neale out of Brisbane and they don't win the flag.

Take out henney and the Swans donr make the GF

[Ollie fan 3,340]

On 24/10/2024 at 21:31, picket fence said:

Ho ho ya gotta get there first!! If we are 2 wins, 4 loses after 6 He will and should be sacked! Lets stop [censored] footing around, however... if he is 4 wins 2 loses he keeps his job...! For a while yet

That's great, PF. Now perhaps you'll tell us what he needs to achieve in the first half of the season for you to back off!

[Garbo 1,515]

With the current makeup of the team dees gotta be contending, if we aren’t in teams round the top 4 I think goody is in trouble, it’s going to be tough with a number of teams expected to improve like freo, hawks pies and blues and not many of the top sides expected to drop off. If Dees aren’t playing at there absolute best it’s hard to see us even making the 8.

Edited October 26 by Garbo

[Little Goffy 14,386]

On 24/10/2024 at 19:30, Adam The God said:

Exactly. Take Neale out of Brisbane and they don't win the flag.

5 hours ago, binman said:

Take out henney and the Swans donr make the GF

Take Brayshaw out of Melbourne...

#maintaintherage

[picket fence 16,970]

3 hours ago, Ollie fan said:

That's great, PF. Now perhaps you'll tell us what he needs to achieve in the first half of the season for you to back off!

Ok if we are 2 wins 4 losses He is gone

If we dont make the 8 He is gone

If we make the 8 and get bundled out without a win, He is gone!

To be Blunt the pass mark is a flag in 2025! If he doesn't deliver on the above..

HE SHOULD BE GONE.. End of story!

And if he Does win it, I ll buy him a beer and a 2 possibly 3 year extention!

Edited Saturday at 06:22 by picket fence

[Ollie fan 3,340]

14 hours ago, picket fence said:

Ok if we are 2 wins 4 losses He is gone

If we dont make the 8 He is gone

If we make the 8 and get bundled out without a win, He is gone!

To be Blunt the pass mark is a flag in 2025! If he doesn't deliver on the above..

HE SHOULD BE GONE.. End of story!

And if he Does win it, I ll buy him a beer and a 2 possibly 3 year extention!

I said: in the first half of the season. For you to get off his back.

 

 And if have to say, if I were him and I won the flag, you would be the last person I'd want to have a drink with after all the "support" you have shown him.

[picket fence 16,970]

20 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

I said: in the first half of the season. For you to get off his back.

 

 And if have to say, if I were him and I won the flag, you would be the last person I'd want to have a drink with after all the "support" you have shown him.

Wont have to worry about it, save me a couple of bucks! Lets revisit this next year eh?

Edited Saturday at 21:38 by picket fence

[binman 42,419]

16 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Take Brayshaw out of Melbourne...

#maintaintherage

Take the l out of lover. 

And it's over.

[Neil Crompton 5,426]

Time to go Goody? Nah, just time to go and get another premiership Goody! I have a feeling ‘25 and ‘26 are going to be good years.

[rjay 24,778]

18 hours ago, picket fence said:

Ok if we are 2 wins 4 losses He is gone

If we dont make the 8 He is gone

If we make the 8 and get bundled out without a win, He is gone!

To be Blunt the pass mark is a flag in 2025! If he doesn't deliver on the above..

HE SHOULD BE GONE.. End of story!

And if he Does win it, I ll buy him a beer and a 2 possibly 3 year extention!

A question 'picket'...

Would you prefer he fails and you're proved right?

...or would you like to see him succeed & you proved wrong?

[picket fence 16,970]

1 hour ago, rjay said:

A question 'picket'...

Would you prefer he fails and you're proved right?

...or would you like to see him succeed & you proved wrong?

Would love to be proven wrong, but given our last 3 years, time is very quickly running out

[Pennant St Dee 13,029]

2 hours ago, rjay said:

A question 'picket'...

Would you prefer he fails and you're proved right?

...or would you like to see him succeed & you proved wrong?

Why bother your dealing with someone unreasonable who talks of

the last 3 years being a total failure because we didn’t win a flag or final- forget the fact there were certain circumstances and we put ourselves in the top 4 after home and away season 

Wanting Goody to debut Jefferson, even though he’s not ready 

Spargo being no good because he’s small- forget the fact he’s our best link player in transition and probably the best decision maker with ball in hand

Doesn’t understand despite being underdone, when he plays Petty takes one of if not the best opposition defender away from a younger forward 

And time is quickly running out FFS, another who is incapable of seeing the change in the group happening before his eyes

[rjay 24,778]

1 hour ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Why bother your dealing with someone unreasonable who talks of

the last 3 years being a total failure because we didn’t win a flag or final- forget the fact there were certain circumstances and we put ourselves in the top 4 after home and away season 

Wanting Goody to debut Jefferson, even though he’s not ready 

Spargo being no good because he’s small- forget the fact he’s our best link player in transition and probably the best decision maker with ball in hand

Doesn’t understand despite being underdone, when he plays Petty takes one of if not the best opposition defender away from a younger forward 

And time is quickly running out FFS, another who is incapable of seeing the change in the group happening before his eyes

There are a few on here who I'm convinced would rather be proved right than see us succeed 'Pennant', so I put the question out to one of Goody's major detractors.

Anyway, I think the question will be moot as I expect us to bounce back in 2025.

[Pennant St Dee 13,029]

48 minutes ago, rjay said:

There are a few on here who I'm convinced would rather be proved right than see us succeed 'Pennant', so I put the question out to one of Goody's major detractors.

Anyway, I think the question will be moot as I expect us to bounce back in 2025.

I could see a world where we bounce back just with good pre seasons and a clear run at it for Oliver and Trac plus natural progression for Windsor.

I don’t expect us to win the flag next year even with the above occurring. Our next serious tilt will come from Rivers, Mcvee, Windsor and JVR taking the next step along with Petty getting a good run with injuries and holding down at key role (preferred down back but possibly swinging forward). I still consider the coaching staff having the tough love conversation with Kossie regarding his brain fades needs to be had

If they do that and it doesn’t all fall to Max, Trac, Oliver, May and Kossie having to carry all our hopes, we will fine and contending