1 minute ago, spirit of norm smith said:

I think once we traded out the future 1st pick, then we cannot trade out the future 2nd round pick. 

I am unclear on this as Hawks traded their 2025 picks to get Barrass. 

The Hawks sent across a future first-round pick, a future second-round pick and a future third-round pick to the Eagles while securing the 29-year-old premiership player and West Coast's future fourth-round pick in the deal.

 

I’m pretty sure you just need the league to sign off on it. 

8 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

I’m pretty sure you just need the league to sign off on it. 

Ok so providing you are Carlton, Collingwood, Geelong, Essendon or Hawks, it’s all fine.  

15 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

I think once we traded out the future 1st pick, then we cannot trade out the future 2nd round pick. 

I am unclear on this as Hawks traded their 2025 picks to get Barrass. 

The Hawks sent across a future first-round pick, a future second-round pick and a future third-round pick to the Eagles while securing the 29-year-old premiership player and West Coast's future fourth-round pick in the deal.

 

I think that it was allowed because they had two 2025 first round picks.

Tbh I don’t know why they put those restrictions. Clubs should be allowed to do what they want with all picks and wear the consequences if they get it wrong.

The Saints 2 picks are really interesting, would they offer up 7 and 8 to Norf for 2 and 22? 

if they hold those picks they're on record as wanting midfield class, but i think a King/Armstrong combination would be really tempting for them 

5 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

The Saints 2 picks are really interesting, would they offer up 7 and 8 to Norf for 2 and 22? 

if they hold those picks they're on record as wanting midfield class, but i think a King/Armstrong combination would be really tempting for them 

They can get a Smilie/Reid/Trainor/Armstrong possibly Tauru combo for 7&8. They need that. I'd be happy with those two picks in the hand if I was them. 

56 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I think that it was allowed because they had two 2025 first round picks.

Tbh I don’t know why they put those restrictions. Clubs should be allowed to do what they want with all picks and wear the consequences if they get it wrong.

Yep they got Carlton’s future first.

Next year teams can trade two years in advance and I think less restrictions on the rounds of picks. I don’t mind the way it keeps teams from selling too much but it’s too restrictive as is 

22 minutes ago, Mouseymoo said:

They can get a Smilie/Reid/Trainor/Armstrong possibly Tauru combo for 7&8. They need that. I'd be happy with those two picks in the hand if I was them. 

Going backwards with pick 8 is the rumour, possibly to GWS or Richmond.

I think that’s sensible if get a premium for it. I’m sure we are thinking the same with 9 but I suspect it will take a monster deal to move more than a few spots.

1 hour ago, Ted Lasso said:

The Saints 2 picks are really interesting, would they offer up 7 and 8 to Norf for 2 and 22? 

if they hold those picks they're on record as wanting midfield class, but i think a King/Armstrong combination would be really tempting for them 

That would be madness.

Another one people probably won’t be happy with. Has us taking:

5: Reid

9: Armstrong

9 minutes ago, 2021 said:

Another one people probably won’t be happy with. Has us taking:

5: Reid

9: Armstrong

No thanks. Armstrong a big ❌❌. I honestly think he’s the 4th most attractive KP prospect in this draft, behind Tauru, Trainor and Shanahan. Place the trust in JVR and Jeffo. Reid at 9 wouldn’t be disastrous, but not my first choice. 

On 30/10/2024 at 16:30, spirit of norm smith said:

@Ted Lasso yes we are nearly aligned. 

#5… likely Smith or Langford.  Either is a great addition.  👏👏👏

However in outcome , I can’t see the Dees taking both Smith & Reid. 

in your scenario, at “9”, I think it’s either Allan, Lindsay or Travaglia.  
If Smith at 5, I’d take Allan at 9.  They would compliment each other perfectly in a future midfield. Allan can play half back or strong inside midfield role.  
If Langford at 5, then it’s either Lindsay or Travaglia as the best choice.  Again players added that present inside power and outside running.   

I’m not keen on Armstrong at 5 or 9. Nor Reid.  Both are good youngsters but I think others are better as well as fit the future structure. 

1 hour ago, 2021 said:

Another one people probably won’t be happy with. Has us taking:

5: Reid

9: Armstrong

Reid looks pretty good. Admittedly I’ve only seen his highlight reel but he comes across with outstanding skill and footy smarts. He is another one that could be anything. Would be great to get him at 9

ABC draft ranking, it's not a phantom draft. Not too many surprises or new information 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-06/2024-afl-draft-rankings-top-30-ashcroft-draper-smith/104562052

33 minutes ago, old55 said:

ABC draft ranking, it's not a phantom draft. Not too many surprises or new information 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-06/2024-afl-draft-rankings-top-30-ashcroft-draper-smith/104562052

Whilst not a phantom their order would have us getting  Lalor and Tauru which I would not have an issue with (though probably prefer Allan at 9 even with the alleged go home factor). 

Edited November 5, 20241 yr by Lil_red_fire_engine

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/42006895/afl-two-round-phantom-draft-2024-every-club-pick-sam-lalor-levi-ashcroft-jagga-smith-sid-draper-alix-tauru

 

ESPN latest phantom

This Mock Draft is on live at 12pm.

I don’t have the Herald Sun, if anyone could summarise that would be great.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2024-mock-draft-who-every-club-will-select-who-goes-pick-1/news-story/2137e80d0401d4a88d163d300a57a719?amp

1 hour ago, BangBnagBang said:

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/42006895/afl-two-round-phantom-draft-2024-every-club-pick-sam-lalor-levi-ashcroft-jagga-smith-sid-draper-alix-tauru

 

ESPN latest phantom

Mostly very good. Prediction is Langford at “5” and Reid at “9”.   Happy with Langford. Reid is a very good and smart player however I prefer Allan or Lindsay if that’s the available players for that choice.  

16 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Mostly very good. Prediction is Langford at “5” and Reid at “9”.   Happy with Langford. Reid is a very good and smart player however I prefer Allan or Lindsay if that’s the available players for that choice.  

Would personally be really happy with this outcome, one of the best outcomes for us IMO. 2 players with elite footy IQ, skills, and flexibility to play all over the ground. I’m a massive fan of Reid, he still has tackle breaking and evasive ability at his size to offset his lack of leg speed and think he will best suited to set the game up off half back. I’d be happy with Allan at 9 as well but Lindsay I’m not a massive fan of.

I'd prefer Lindsay @ 9 if we're going another mid. Would like some pace to offset Langfords lack of pure break-away speed.. 

2 hours ago, 2021 said:

This Mock Draft is on live at 12pm.

I don’t have the Herald Sun, if anyone could summarise that would be great.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2024-mock-draft-who-every-club-will-select-who-goes-pick-1/news-story/2137e80d0401d4a88d163d300a57a719?amp

Smith (6) and Armstrong (11)

2 hours ago, Mouseymoo said:

I'd prefer Lindsay @ 9 if we're going another mid. Would like some pace to offset Langfords lack of pure break-away speed.. 

Lindsay is an elite ball user. Not sure if you could say that about anyone in our current midfield or our list. 

1 hour ago, Beetle said:

Smith (6) and Armstrong (11)

Davis going to GWS at 25, yet they haven’t even spoken to him 

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Lindsay is an elite ball user. Not sure if you could say that about anyone in our current midfield or our list. 

The Duke ? Salo? McVee ? 

2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Lindsay is an elite ball user. Not sure if you could say that about anyone in our current midfield or our list. 

From what I’ve seen he’s an elite ball user when he has time and space. However when under pressure his decision making is quite panicky and doesn’t deal with physicality well. Just in my opinion is why I like Reid more than Lindsay because he deals with pressure much better and his disposal is just as elite. Lindsay is quicker than Reid but I still wouldn’t say Lindsay is “quick”.

1 hour ago, 58er said:

The Duke ? Salo? McVee ? 

No.

Salem is certainly up and under kicks. Certainly not sharp in the last 3 years. Often kicked it 15 metres sideways. Windsor is too early to call. I would say he runs and gets metres etc and love that but disposal efficiency this year was low at around 55% 
Mcvee was composed and assured but I wouldn’t say his kicking is elite.  Definitely good with ball in hand and around the 70/75% level. 

We need midfielders with high kicking efficiency to deliver forward connection

Edited November 6, 20241 yr by spirit of norm smith
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