JT still a very good recruiter but the trade up, trade up, trade up some more plan has more than run its course and will kill us this year handing Essendon a quality pick. As well as crazily trading away so many useful later picks in a deep draft last year.

Our depth is terrible and unlikely to get better any time soon. Have to take our medicine with some bigger draft crops and then turn the list over

6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

JT still a very good recruiter but the trade up, trade up, trade up some more plan has more than run its course and will kill us this year handing Essendon a quality pick. As well as crazily trading away so many useful later picks in a deep draft last year.

Our depth is terrible and unlikely to get better any time soon. Have to take our medicine with some bigger draft crops and then turn the list over

i'm very happy with lindsay

tim lamb has far more spots on him than jason taylor

21 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

i'm very happy with lindsay

tim lamb has far more spots on him than jason taylor

I’m also happy with Lindsay but I’m hoping we give up on the Trade up at almost any cost policy. JT has picked a lot of quality players in the 2nd round of the draft over the years but we haven’t given him many picks in that range over the past few years which has contributed to our lack of depth.

I’m a big JT fan and I think our policy over the next couple of year should be the go to the draft with what will surely be very good picks.

4 minutes ago, Colm said:

I’m a big JT fan and I think our policy over the next couple of year should be the go to the draft with what will surely be very good picks.

You are aware we have no 1st rounder this year? What might have been pick 5 is now Essendon's to use.

Or are you talking about 2026 and 2027? My money is on Taylor/Lamb trading those picks out as well.

If, if we get Kalani White and Toby Sinnema this year without a 1st rounder, is that enough?

Are we really in the hunt for PA's Bergman or GWS' Brown?

2 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

You are aware we have no 1st rounder this year? What might have been pick 5 is now Essendon's to use.

Or are you talking about 2026 and 2027? My money is on Taylor/Lamb trading those picks out as well.

Yes I’m aware.

I’m worried that we might trade out 26&27 as they will likely be top 5 picks in good drafts. Even if Tassie comes has a lot of picks in 27 a top 5 pick in a good draft should still get a cracking player.

We were told after the review in the offseason that our list was good enough for finals. Our current ladder position in a year largely unaffected by injury suggests otherwise.

Not sure where to put this, or if it's been posted before, but there's a few to look forward to (until the AFL shafts us again with more targeted rule changes)

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1753057/melbourne-academy-players-to-watch

1 hour ago, Colm said:

I’m also happy with Lindsay but I’m hoping we give up on the Trade up at almost any cost policy. JT has picked a lot of quality players in the 2nd round of the draft over the years but we haven’t given him many picks in that range over the past few years which has contributed to our lack of depth.

I’m a big JT fan and I think our policy over the next couple of year should be the go to the draft with what will surely be very good picks.

Lindsay will be a nice player but if we had our first pick we could tank and get pick 3 this year. Even with academies and a weak top end of the draft that’s likely to be a different grade of player than Lindsay.

That’s before the 2nd rounder and all the other picks we tossed in.

Our trading last four - five years has been the big issue!

6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Lindsay will be a nice player but if we had our first pick we could tank and get pick 3 this year. Even with academies and a weak top end of the draft that’s likely to be a different grade of player than Lindsay.

That’s before the 2nd rounder and all the other picks we tossed in.

the throwing away 2nd rounders seems to have been entirely unnecessary, but i think lindsay is going to be a pearler

he reminds me so much of steele sidebottom

give me a xavier lindsay over a jimmy toumpas or cale morton

5 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Jury is still out with both.

I agree with you Dazzler, the Jury is still with both of them. However, Daniel Curtin is getting better as the weeks go by, and I'm beginning to understand the reasons why we selected Windsor instead of Curtin for our first pick in the 2023 draft.

52 minutes ago, Langers15 said:

I agree with you Dazzler, the Jury is still with both of them. However, Daniel Curtin is getting better as the weeks go by, and I'm beginning to understand the reasons why we selected Windsor instead of Curtin for our first pick in the 2023 draft.

Curtin looks like an absolute gun.

Just lol at the name of this thread.

Since 2019, lets look at the names Jason Taylor has brought to the club

Luke Jackson (Pick 3)
Kozzie Pickett (Pick 12)
Trent Rivers (Pick 32)
Bailey Laurie (pick 22 - traded up for Holmes but he went the pick before)
Jake Bowey (pick 21)
Fraser Rosman (Pick 34)
Van Rooyen (Pick 19)
Taj Woewodin (Pick 65 F/S)
Matthew Jefferson (Pick 15)
Jed Adams (Pick 38)
Windsor (Pick 7)
Kolt (Pick 13)
Harvey Langford (Pick 6)
Xavier Lindsay (Pick 12)

Now that also ignores the premiership list he built before hand (Salem, Petracca, Brayshaw, Jordon, Petty, Sparrow, Fritsch, ANB, Harmes, Spargo, Hunt, Chandler)

Plus absolute gems he has found in the PS draft like Turner and McVee

Now let's look at What Tim Lamb has done since he took over as List Manager in 2019. Yes initially he had success brining in Langdon, May, Ben Brown)
But since winning a premiership and attempting to build a dynasty, lets look at the picks we squandered giving to Lamb to trade instead of trusting Taylor

Hunter, Dunstan, McAdam, Billings, Harry Sharp, Fullerton, Tom Campbell, Schache

Yeah - I know who trust at this club

55 minutes ago, Deez21 said:

Now let's look at What Tim Lamb has done since he took over as List Manager in 2019. Yes initially he had success brining in Langdon, May, Ben Brown)
But since winning a premiership and attempting to build a dynasty, lets look at the picks we squandered giving to Lamb to trade instead of trusting Taylor

Hunter, Dunstan, McAdam, Billings, Harry Sharp, Fullerton, Tom Campbell, Schache

Yeah - I know who trust at this club

i don't disagree that the horse trading of 2nd rounders to move around / up the first round draft board has felt unnecessary, but - other than the pick we gave for mcadam - we gave up little for this clutch of players that you highlighted:

• Hunter - traded for pick 50 (tom anastasopoulos - delisted)

• Dunstan - delisted free agent

• McAdam - traded for pick 31 (james barrat - yet to debut)

• Billings - traded for pick 49 (hugh boxshall - 4 games)

• Harry Sharp and 2025 3rd round (tied to the bears) - traded for 2024 pick 49 (not used) and 2025 3rd round (tied to the peptides)

• Tom Fullarton - traded for pick 47 (not used)

• Tom Campbell - delisted free agent

• Josh Schache - traded for pick 68 (not used)

19 hours ago, Roost it far said:

The bath's empty and the babie's gone!

Empty, gone, rooms have been ransacked and the house has been moved brick by brick to Coorparoo.

Edited June 29Jun 29 by layzie

22 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

JT still a very good recruiter but the trade up, trade up, trade up some more plan has more than run its course and will kill us this year handing Essendon a quality pick. As well as crazily trading away so many useful later picks in a deep draft last year.

Our depth is terrible and unlikely to get better any time soon. Have to take our medicine with some bigger draft crops and then turn the list over

20 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Lindsay will be a nice player but if we had our first pick we could tank and get pick 3 this year. Even with academies and a weak top end of the draft that’s likely to be a different grade of player than Lindsay.

That’s before the 2nd rounder and all the other picks we tossed in.

Any pick Ess gets this year will be the equivalent of mid teens/ early 20's last draft.

15 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

i don't disagree that the horse trading of 2nd rounders to move around / up the first round draft board has felt unnecessary, but - other than the pick we gave for mcadam - we gave up little for this clutch of players that you highlighted:

• Hunter - traded for pick 50 (tom anastasopoulos - delisted)

• Dunstan - delisted free agent

• McAdam - traded for pick 31 (james barrat - yet to debut)

• Billings - traded for pick 49 (hugh boxshall - 4 games)

• Harry Sharp and 2025 3rd round (tied to the bears) - traded for 2024 pick 49 (not used) and 2025 3rd round (tied to the peptides)

• Tom Fullarton - traded for pick 47 (not used)

• Tom Campbell - delisted free agent

• Josh Schache - traded for pick 68 (not used)

It's not worth looking at what other teams did what that pick but rather what Taylor could've done with the pick
Eg - Anastopolous , still avaible was Hugo Garcia, Lawson Humphries, Archie Roberts

However, my point is, Taylor is not the problem. He has hit on over 80% of his picks since coming to the club. Lamb has not built on the premiership and his recruitment since has set us back

48 minutes ago, BangBnagBang said:

Any pick Ess gets this year will be the equivalent of mid teens/ early 20's last draft.

And not to mention any pick they got won't be better than Lindsay. He'd be a top 5 mid in any other draft

Just now, Deez21 said:

And not to mention any pick they got won't be better than Lindsay. He'd be a top 5 mid in any other draft

All I’ve seen and heard are words so far, a million miles away from being Floweresque as promised.

JT has helped build us the best list many of us have seen in our lifetime, a list that delivered a flag. Tim Lamb too deserves credit

I do believe we get over excited about him though. He has done some great things but he’s not Jesus. Conversely, he’s also not a very naughty boy.

Good recruiters are bloody hard to find, once you have a decent one you don't want to let them go. I don't think JT is the best recruiter in the comp by any means but I'd back him in over the unknown. That being said it wouldn't hurt to support him by investing in more talent scouts.

It’s over rated, just buy the HS or check out the AFL site, they will tell you the player ratings, that pick them selves.

On 29/06/2025 at 15:32, whatwhat say what said:

i'm very happy with lindsay

tim lamb has far more spots on him than jason taylor

The sooner Tim Lamb and Richo are gone the better in my eyes.

17 hours ago, Deez21 said:

Just lol at the name of this thread.

Since 2019, lets look at the names Jason Taylor has brought to the club

Luke Jackson (Pick 3)
Kozzie Pickett (Pick 12)
Trent Rivers (Pick 32)
Bailey Laurie (pick 22 - traded up for Holmes but he went the pick before)
Jake Bowey (pick 21)
Fraser Rosman (Pick 34)
Van Rooyen (Pick 19)
Taj Woewodin (Pick 65 F/S)
Matthew Jefferson (Pick 15)
Jed Adams (Pick 38)
Windsor (Pick 7)
Kolt (Pick 13)
Harvey Langford (Pick 6)
Xavier Lindsay (Pick 12)

Now that also ignores the premiership list he built before hand (Salem, Petracca, Brayshaw, Jordon, Petty, Sparrow, Fritsch, ANB, Harmes, Spargo, Hunt, Chandler)

Plus absolute gems he has found in the PS draft like Turner and McVee

Now let's look at What Tim Lamb has done since he took over as List Manager in 2019. Yes initially he had success brining in Langdon, May, Ben Brown)
But since winning a premiership and attempting to build a dynasty, lets look at the picks we squandered giving to Lamb to trade instead of trusting Taylor

Hunter, Dunstan, McAdam, Billings, Harry Sharp, Fullerton, Tom Campbell, Schache

Yeah - I know who trust at this club

But trades are done basically with coaches’ input, whereas with drafting, the recruiters tell the coaches all about the possible draftees and there can be some coach input.

Tim Lamb doesn’t just go and get someone without the coaches telling him to. It’s on them, not him.

His main role is to manage the list and salary cap and work with the recruiters.

3 hours ago, BangBnagBang said:

Any pick Ess gets this year will be the equivalent of mid teens/ early 20's last draft.

You think the draft is that week? I don’t, there’s always quality right at the top. If we hand them pick 4 or 5 that’s significantly better than pick 7 or 8 that gets blown out by academies.

I also think last years draft had about 20 guys who would go in pick 10-15 in a normal draft of which Lindsay was one. To get 1 of those in Lindsay was nice. But we missed out the chance to get a couple of them by sliding the Lindsay pick back, or sticking with our 2nd rounder and keeping the first this year.