Trade Targets

[Roost it far 8,264]

6 hours ago, Colm said:

I think we should go to the draft this year with as much draft capital as possible. Hopefully we can bring in one or two UFA,s too. 
We probably need to go hard at next years draft too before we start trading top picks for players. That’s 2 years to add to our crop of young players and one to target more mature players through trading before the Tassie team enters starts in 2027. 
I remember being super impressed with Richmond’s recruitment in 21. A year after their last flag and they went to the draft with 5 picks inside the top 30. A year later they added Hopper and Taranto. But look where they are now. I don’t know if they over estimated the quality on their list and the 5 they picked certainly have really starred so far. But it goes to show how difficult it can be to get these things right. 

I give you Jason Taylor

[Willmoy1947 4,085]

1 minute ago, Roost it far said:

I give you Jason Taylor

Anyone know if Smith is closer to resolution or not? i have a bit of a theory on why the Club has been singled out there too. Something along the lines of sup and dem..

[Colm 2,151]

9 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

I give you Jason Taylor

Why thank you Roost, I’ll gladly take him. Any chance you could give me an upgrade on Tim Lamb while you at it?

[whatwhat say what 22,747]

26 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/06/25/the-speculation-surrounding-st-kilda-ruckman-and-the-club-that-should-be/

Tom Morris reporting that Rowan Marshal is not all that happy at Saints.

I know the duel ruck set up with Grundy didn't work and has left some people scarred, but Ro-Mo is a genuine fwd threat and can play that role, as well as giving Max a very good chop out in the ruck.

Will cost a lot to get him, but could it be worth it?

yep, but the aints will want clayton oliver for him

[Travy14 1,917]

1 minute ago, whatwhat say what said:

yep, but the aints will want clayton oliver for him

Oliver doesn't want out.  Its a pipe dream trade but if he did want out and it cost us draft capital it might be worth it. Tomlinson would be a good fit for them too. he is out of contract but he actually would be perfect for them.

I don't think this will happen but if there is a chance i hope they are picking up the phone to his management

 

[HBDee 361]

I think it is risky to avoid drafting in the next 2 years given Tassie will probably get some AFL assistance thereafter. Look what happened to the team (us) that was at the bottom of the ladder when GCS and GWS entered the league..........we were rubbish for 10 years. A few draft shockers didn't help either mind you.

[Jeremy 981]

42 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

I give you Jason Taylor

Out of contract this year. Yet to re sign 

[Travy14 1,917]

1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

I give you Jason Taylor

Don't get me wrong i love JT, but he has had as many misses as hits since he has been there.  

Development and coaching is more important.

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,734]

9 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

Don't get me wrong i love JT, but he has had as many misses as hits since he has been there.  

Development and coaching is more important.

Please don't speak about JT that way..... bloke deserves a statue

[Travy14 1,917]

1 minute ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Please don't speak about JT that way..... bloke deserves a statue

he has been there since 2012, wish it wasn't true.  But the Dees faithful do put him in too high a regard IMO

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,734]

3 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

he has been there since 2012, wish it wasn't true.  But the Dees faithful do put him in too high a regard IMO

And helped take one of the worst performing clubs in history to a premiership?

The Weid over Curnow/McKay was his biggest miss. But he hasn't missed too often in that time.

 

[whatwhat say what 22,747]

2 hours ago, Travy14 said:

Oliver doesn't want out.  Its a pipe dream trade but if he did want out and it cost us draft capital it might be worth it. Tomlinson would be a good fit for them too. he is out of contract but he actually would be perfect for them.

I don't think this will happen but if there is a chance i hope they are picking up the phone to his management

 

tomlinson is an unrestricted free agent, but they might want to trade for him...

he could walk to the aints and fit right into their backline...mostly cos we're picking up battle as our own ufa from them...

[Travy14 1,917]

12 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

And helped take one of the worst performing clubs in history to a premiership?

The Weid over Curnow/McKay was his biggest miss. But he hasn't missed too often in that time.

 

there is a lot in there, Toumpas as well.  Kent, Jones, Terlich, Kennedy-Harris, Baker, Stretch, McDonald

He isn't bad but i just don't think as good as others think.  And at the time of the draft players are different to what they are now, everyone was scared of Curnow because he was done drink driving and had some off field issues, no club would say no now.

He is good at his job, but development is more important.

[MrFreeze 1,965]

7 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

tomlinson is an unrestricted free agent, but they might want to trade for him...

he could walk to the aints and fit right into their backline...mostly cos we're picking up battle as our own ufa from them...

That's a nice under the table agreement we could make 

[MrFreeze 1,965]

Weid had tiny little arms, having massive biceps is the best base for a full forward apparently 

[Nascent 9,212]

8 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

there is a lot in there, Toumpas as well.  Kent, Jones, Terlich, Kennedy-Harris, Baker, Stretch, McDonald

He isn't bad but i just don't think as good as others think.  And at the time of the draft players are different to what they are now, everyone was scared of Curnow because he was done drink driving and had some off field issues, no club would say no now.

He is good at his job, but development is more important.

Fairly certain Taylor's first draft was 2013 with Salem.

Wasn't responsible for the selections of Toumpas, Terlich, Kent, Matty Jones etc... I actually rated Kent, shame he was just so injury prone.

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,734]

17 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

there is a lot in there, Toumpas as well.  Kent, Jones, Terlich, Kennedy-Harris, Baker, Stretch, McDonald

He isn't bad but i just don't think as good as others think.  And at the time of the draft players are different to what they are now, everyone was scared of Curnow because he was done drink driving and had some off field issues, no club would say no now.

He is good at his job, but development is more important.

I'm pretty sure he came on after the 2012 draft, so wasn't involved in drafting Toumpas.

Anyway don't want to get into revisionism about every draft, but I'm sure if we looked into it in detail he would be up there as one of the best draft talent spotters in the competition.

[Travy14 1,917]

1 hour ago, Nascent said:

Fairly certain Taylor's first draft was 2013 with Salem.

Wasn't responsible for the selections of Toumpas, Terlich, Kent, Matty Jones etc... I actually rated Kent, shame he was just so injury prone.

I loved all of them, i thought Jay Kennedy-Harris was going to be a star.  And was a big fan of Billy Stretch too.

[adonski 12,109]

1 hour ago, Travy14 said:

Don't get me wrong i love JT, but he has had as many misses as hits since he has been there.  

Development and coaching is more important.

It's 90%+ selection. That's why Harry Sheezel thrives while Will Phillips plays in the magoos most weeks. One was a good pick, one wasn't.

[manny100 1,552]

1 hour ago, Travy14 said:

Don't get me wrong i love JT, but he has had as many misses as hits since he has been there.  

Development and coaching is more important.

All recruiters have misses. Its about the players with lousy picks and rookies that matter. With luck Windsor, Kolt and JVR will be elite. Fingers crossed for K Brown as well.

I have high hopes for McVee and Howes also.

Can take a few years for a player to come really good. After his 3rd preseason we may see Jeffo start being a serviceable KP on his way to being good at the top level.

 

[Travy14 1,917]

51 minutes ago, manny100 said:

All recruiters have misses. Its about the players with lousy picks and rookies that matter. With luck Windsor, Kolt and JVR will be elite. Fingers crossed for K Brown as well.

I have high hopes for McVee and Howes also.

Can take a few years for a player to come really good. After his 3rd preseason we may see Jeffo start being a serviceable KP on his way to being good at the top level.

 

100% Agree, i have huge wraps on Kolt, he reminds me a lot of Petracca at the same age.  Windsor looks amazing and exactly what we need.  JVR i think will be a premo forward of the comp.  I'm not as optimistic on Brown, sort of the same boat as Woewodin, they don't have all the talent but sound like they are work horses which you do also need.

Agree with McVee and Howes, both can be future midfielders for us.

And now the news of AMW this week, good luck to him.

[drysdale demon 4,832]

5 hours ago, Willmoy1947 said:

Anyone know if Smith is closer to resolution or not? i have a bit of a theory on why the Club has been singled out there too. Something along the lines of sup and dem..

Investigations can take a long time, it makes no difference to us now he will be delisted by the club at seasons end .

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

5 hours ago, Willmoy1947 said:

Anyone know if Smith is closer to resolution or not? i have a bit of a theory on why the Club has been singled out there too. Something along the lines of sup and dem..

Sup and dem?

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

3 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

And helped take one of the worst performing clubs in history to a premiership?

The Weid over Curnow/McKay was his biggest miss. But he hasn't missed too often in that time.

 

Wasn’t he around for Toumpus? 

[Willmoy1947 4,085]

3 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Sup and dem?

I don't want to be any more specific than that really. Other than supply and demand and join the dots