CASEY: Rd 06 vs Williamstown

[David-Demon 568]

3 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

I think you might be right. I know it started with L. I was thinking loyds but loys does sound familiar. I think there was a depot in Inkerman st never the train bridge .

I remember pineapple and passionfruit and thinking how upmarket they were. All delivered to your door. I begged my mom to get some but she said it was a waste of money. Pffft.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

21 hours ago, picket fence said:

He was miles of it yesterday, not much impact for a guy that played ones a few weeks back!

Boy George, played and moved like Austin Wonemaeamirri yesterday, similar build and style of play, but looks a definate UPGRADE!

Aside from his tank, maybe the defensive side and learning whatever role he's being asked to play ie; within the team structure ... Roy looks to be a ready made AFL player.

He just needs the finishing touches. 

That might require some time spent training with the main group / Casey group during the week for a good block though.  Most likely a pre-season as well to get that all in place and the tank going.  At the very least a structured mini pre after the MSD.

I'd ve very surprised if he isn't flagged on Taylor & Lamb's whiteboard for the MSD already.  If not he should be.

My understanding is Kolt played mostly a HF role during his time at Subiaco & the national carnival, only pinch hitting through the middle. 

Now being asked to play a mostly mid role at Casey.  Might take a while Picket, with a few ugly games in between.  That's if he gets that role.  He might be more suited to the former and best left to continue homing in on that?

My gut feel is he is having to play a mostly mid role at the moment as Casey is so low on mid field stocks.  Could be wrong though.

Edited May 7 by Demon Dynasty

[Storm Boy 376]

If you watch from the 10 minute of the 3rd quarter Roy George kicks 2 goals in 2 minutes. It's on the AFL website. The commentators said it would be a frightening to see Kozzie Pickett and Roy George playing together in the forward 50. The commentators were in their element seeing Roy George play. I'm interested to see if he will play this Friday afternoon at Ikon Park against the brown paper bags 

[manny100 1,595]

7 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Aside from his tank, maybe the defensive side and learning whatever role he's being asked to play ie; within the team structure ... Roy looks to be a ready made AFL player.

He just needs the finishing touches. 

That might require some time spent training with the main group / Casey group during the week for a good block though.  Most likely a pre-season as well to get that all in place and the tank going.  At the very least a structured mini pre after the MSD.

I'd ve very surprised if he isn't flagged on Taylor & Lamb's whiteboard for the MSD already.  If not he should be.

My understanding is Kolt played mostly a HF role during his time at Subiaco & the national carnival, only pinch hitting through the middle. 

Now being asked to play a mostly mid role at Casey.  Might take a while Picket, with a few ugly games in between.  That's if he gets that role.  He might be more suited to the former and best left to continue homing in on that?

My gut feel is he is having to play a mostly mid role at the moment as Casey is so low on mid field stocks.  Could be wrong though.

JT in his post draft interview said Kolt would play later as a mid in the AFL. Roy George is worth watching and he may get picked in the mid season.

[Diamond_Jim 12,627]

A week ago Roy George was playing for Tyntynder in the AFL Central Murray League.

Had to look it up but Tyntynder is in the Mallee near Nyah

Big step up to be talked of as being an AFL draftee

Was in Victoria during 2023 as well so makes you wonder how he came to get a game on Sunday.

Lots of AFL players back for the next VFL round but I hope they squeeze him in

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9 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

A week ago Roy George was playing for Tyntynder in the AFL Central Murray League.

Had to look it up but Tyntynder is in the Mallee near Nyah

Big step up to be talked of as being an AFL draftee

Was in Victoria during 2023 as well so makes you wonder how he came to get a game on Sunday.

Lots of AFL players back for the next VFL round but I hope they squeeze him in

Roy trained pre season with the Dockers and has been a drifter around the country it seems. The club maybe looking at him for the PSD. If so, he will get more games with Casey before hand. 

[58er 6,560]

On 06/05/2024 at 12:37, DeeSpencer said:

I was a bit of a Wilson doubter as I didn’t trust his decision making under pressure, but he’s so elite as an outside runner it rarely matters and he’s already consistent overhead for a kid which gives him another way to win clean possessions.

Kolt just looks plain athletically and isn’t doing anything special with his power. Great worker and high character, I’ve got no doubt he’ll be a long term player but the trade up without a clear target is a mistake. Burnt 2 second rounders that could’ve been forwarded in to future picks.

As was folding and giving away a 2nd rounder for McAdam when a third would’ve got it done.

The reality is we might’ve finished the last 2 list periods with Windsor, an ok role player in Kolt, some longer term rookies in Brown, Sestan, Verrall and stuff all else. As bad as Jefferson has been Adams might be worse, he can’t track the ball in the air.

Oh well, I guess we added some mature players right? Nope, a few games out of Billings, Hunter, Grundy, Hore and maybe some McAdam or Fullarton cameos if we are lucky. Whilst Gus and Joel Smith are done.

Pretty good job turning a top 4 list in to a mid table one.

  Not bad PK you have written half of our depth and potential in about3 paragraphs.

Really some of these kids are in their first years and we all know of Judd etc. Let’s cool down and see how some come out of the harder footy now required in the Casey Dees. 

Are we doing the right thing in trying to develop Kolt and Sestan as mids because we are desperate or are we better letting them make it as HFFlankers then offering mid field opportunities.

Similarly AMW surely is a better chance of succeeding as a HF than a HB. 
Snd are we missing a trick in lMO in not getting as much game time on the ball ( despite his physique ) for Pup Kynan who looks natural junk hungry dog who is a total ball winner in the trenches plus has pace and kicks a goal. He is a sleeper IMO and needs to be given time accordingly to fast track his development. 

[58er 6,560]

5 minutes ago, 58er said:

  Not bad PK you have written half of our depth and potential in about3 paragraphs.

Really some of these kids are in their first years and we all know of Judd etc. Let’s cool down and see how some come out of the harder footy now required in the Casey Dees. 

Are we doing the right thing in trying to develop Kolt and Sestan as mids because we are desperate or are we better letting them make it as HFFlankers then offering mid field opportunities.

Similarly AMW surely is a better chance of succeeding as a HF than a HB. 
Snd are we missing a trick in lMO in not getting as much game time on the ball ( despite his physique ) for Pup Kynan who looks natural junk hungry dog who is a total ball winner in the trenches plus has pace and kicks a goal. He is a sleeper IMO and needs to be given time accordingly to fast track his development. 

Apologies PK very sorry 

meant Dee Spencer. 

[Satyriconhome 10,879]

20 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Pretty impressive game from Moniz after the first quarter.

He's always been handy at ground level.  Even in the air, he competes well against taller opponents.

Recovers quickly and pressures / tackles well.

Provides a solid option on the rebound and chains well.

Where he lets himself down is his clangers by foot though.  Particularly through the middle.  Some of them are horror jobs under not alot of pressure and at AFL level the oppo will generally punish on the scoreboard if you turnover in that part of the ground. 

He's doing alot right but i reckon the FD would want to see him clean that side up first.  Too risky otherwise.

He is also being played as a small rebound defender so who is he replacing?  We have Bowey about to come back.  Surely he gets the nod and is well ahead of Moniz preference wise given his prior cred?

Personally if Hunter is playing at Casey i'd rather see him play the Moniz role at times.

Give Moniz some reasonable minutes at CBs and stoppages and see how he goes.  Pushing forward sometimes as well.  Wasted down back and unlikely to get a call up while playing this role at Casey.

Moniz is also a pretty good crumber / goal sneak.  At least when played up forward anyway.  Looks like the FD has other plans though.

Andy came from Darwin as a B class rookie, so has not had the junior grounding as the rest of the players.

His main sport was rugby with AFL on the side, hence the excellent tackling technique.

Unfortunately he has had a couple of injuries that have hampered his progress.

Just needs a clean run, would not be surprised to see him given a run in the midfield to round out his experience.

Versatility is the key in medium size players these days.

[spirit of norm smith 16,588]

Agree I’m a fan of AMW.  I think he is worth a chance to debut this year.  His tackling (from his rugby background) is very good so he should adapt to the pressure.  

[monoccular 17,573]

On 06/05/2024 at 16:11, Deelectable said:

Pardon my ignorance but because of the absence of Brayshaw and Smith are we eligible for two picks in the MSD? I really hope so. Depth is a worry and developing players desperately need a more competitive Casey. 

I am sure we won't get any concessions for Smith, but certainly will for Angus

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[picket fence 17,498]

Jeffo 10 SCORE INVOLVEMENTS lets see more of that PLUS 3 Goals!

[spirit of norm smith 16,588]

It’s daylight.  AMW is the only one deserving of a call up really.  What are we waiting for ? Probably offers more than Billings right now.  

[dazzledavey36 55,318]

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

It’s daylight.  AMW is the only one deserving of a call up really.  What are we waiting for ? Probably offers more than Billings right now.  

Disposal by foot isn't great for starters.

They're obviously looking for a consistent performance from AMW. Whilst the stat sheet may look good on his behalf it's his ball use and lack of composure at times at VFL that stands out the most.

In a high paced pressure environment at AFL level this simply doesn't stand up.

Still think he's better use up forward. 

[Left Foot Snap 2,453]

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Disposal by foot isn't great for starters.

They're obviously looking for a consistent performance from AMW. Whilst the stat sheet may look good on his behalf it's his ball use and lack of composure at times at VFL that stands out the most.

In a high paced pressure environment at AFL level this simply doesn't stand up.

Still think he's better use up forward. 

Pity at this stage, still time though.

Dazzle, interested in your thoughts on Deakin Smith compared to AMW off half back. Had high hopes for Deakin.

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1 minute ago, Left Foot Snap said:

Pity at this stage, still time though.

Dazzle, interested in your thoughts on Deakin Smith compared to AMW off half back. Had high hopes for Deakin.

Yeah I didn't mind Deakyn to be honest. 

Actually surprised we didn't give him a go. The games I watched of him at VFL level he seemed consistent and I thought with him being a running defender he could have been a good one two punch alongside Bowey.

He was also pretty composed and measured down back.

I remember one of the games I watched he completely shut down Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti and i thought that was going to be the next step into AFL level.

Won Casey's best and fairest last year but was unfortunately still delisted. Coaches obviously think very differently to us nuffy fans.

[Bang Na Demon 168]

4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Disposal by foot isn't great for starters.

They're obviously looking for a consistent performance from AMW. Whilst the stat sheet may look good on his behalf it's his ball use and lack of composure at times at VFL that stands out the most.

In a high paced pressure environment at AFL level this simply doesn't stand up.

Still think he's better use up forward. 

Unfortunately yes

[Left Foot Snap 2,453]

8 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah I didn't mind Deakyn to be honest. 

Actually surprised we didn't give him a go. The games I watched of him at VFL level he seemed consistent and I thought with him being a running defender he could have been a good one two punch alongside Bowey.

He was also pretty composed and measured down back.

I remember one of the games I watched he completely shut down Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti and i thought that was going to be the next step into AFL level.

Won Casey's best and fairest last year but was unfortunately still delisted. Coaches obviously think very differently to us nuffy fans.

I was surprised we didn't persist a little longer.