Jump to content

Featured Replies

Posted

hello

this might not be the first time this topic has been canvassed on DL but I listened to last week's Deemonland podcast (the Rd 4 deefeat of Adelaide) today.

I listen a week late as I, like many of us here, suffer from MFCSS - so I keep a positive game review in the bank for a week - so this week, after the Dee-vasting loss against the AFL-backed Brisbane - I listen to happiness and not the downer of a loss.

On the Rd 4 podcast the question of Steven May or Jake Lever or Ed Langdon being our best recruit from another club.

I love 'em all and boy how good our recruiting star Jason Taylor - recruited by coach Mark Neeld BTW!

Some other names were raised: Dietrich twice from that organisation in Moorabbin (I can't type that name of that place); Jeffie White from FreddoFrogs; and Brett Lovett from Hawthorn reserves (three seasons in that club's seconds and not an easy club to break into during the Dawks' golden era: post-Matthews, but his approach to the game taken over by Brereton and Dippierdomenico and Lovett did not approach footy like them).

I have two more names to add - as an honourable mention Henry Coles but what about Laurie Fowler?

Fowler three Blueys. 1975, '79 and '80 (retired in 1981) and they were all when Robbie was playing.

I am Dee-sappointed that Robbie only won on Bluey (1977).

I looked up their games played in each of these four years as Robbie used to be humble when asked of his one-and-only Bluey stating how good Laurie was.

So, 1975 Laurie all 22 games - Robbie 20; 1977 Laurie 17 games and Robbie 20; 1979 Laurie and Robbie both 21 games; 1980 Laurie 21 games and Robbie 22.

I don't know the voting numbers of each but based on the Blueys - Laurie has to be one of the best recruits we've ever landed from another club.

Just wish he'd wiped out Nicholls when wearing the RnB and not when playin for Dump Rd!

And, can you believe it's been 10 years since Robbie died?

thanks DL podcasters and bloggers.

A-S

 

The things you forget...

 

  On 14/04/2024 at 11:53, Anti-Saint said:

hello

this might not be the first time this topic has been canvassed on DL but I listened to last week's Deemonland podcast (the Rd 4 deefeat of Adelaide) today.

I listen a week late as I, like many of us here, suffer from MFCSS - so I keep a positive game review in the bank for a week - so this week, after the Dee-vasting loss against the AFL-backed Brisbane - I listen to happiness and not the downer of a loss.

On the Rd 4 podcast the question of Steven May or Jake Lever or Ed Langdon being our best recruit from another club.

I love 'em all and boy how good our recruiting star Jason Taylor - recruited by coach Mark Neeld BTW!

Some other names were raised: Dietrich twice from that organisation in Moorabbin (I can't type that name of that place); Jeffie White from FreddoFrogs; and Brett Lovett from Hawthorn reserves (three seasons in that club's seconds and not an easy club to break into during the Dawks' golden era: post-Matthews, but his approach to the game taken over by Brereton and Dippierdomenico and Lovett did not approach footy like them).

I have two more names to add - as an honourable mention Henry Coles but what about Laurie Fowler?

Fowler three Blueys. 1975, '79 and '80 (retired in 1981) and they were all when Robbie was playing.

I am Dee-sappointed that Robbie only won on Bluey (1977).

I looked up their games played in each of these four years as Robbie used to be humble when asked of his one-and-only Bluey stating how good Laurie was.

So, 1975 Laurie all 22 games - Robbie 20; 1977 Laurie 17 games and Robbie 20; 1979 Laurie and Robbie both 21 games; 1980 Laurie 21 games and Robbie 22.

I don't know the voting numbers of each but based on the Blueys - Laurie has to be one of the best recruits we've ever landed from another club.

Just wish he'd wiped out Nicholls when wearing the RnB and not when playin for Dump Rd!

And, can you believe it's been 10 years since Robbie died?

thanks DL podcasters and bloggers.

A-S

Laurie Fowler was a reliable and consistent back pocket, nothing more. Yes, good pick up.Robbie Flower is still the greatest Demon I've ever seen. How he doesn't make it into the top 50 lists of GOAT'S is bemusing. Of his 272 games I reckon I missed only a handful live. To have won only one b &f and Fowler two is an indictment and embarrassment to all involved at the time. I am aware club voting is based differently to Brownlow's etc but Robbie was the consumate team player, clubman and superstar. Thankfully was humble and got on with it. I can remember Fowler being coy about the awards.

 
  On 14/04/2024 at 12:46, Deelectable said:

Laurie Fowler was a reliable and consistent back pocket, nothing more.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Apart from his early days at Melbourne Fowler played as a ruck rover ie on the ball. He was outstanding for us and was selected for Victoria a couple of times.

3 B&F & one second placing in 7 seasons.  An outstanding player for us.

The fact that Robbie Flower only won 1 B&F remains a mystery but voting is clearly a subjective matter.

  • Author
  On 14/04/2024 at 12:46, Deelectable said:

Laurie Fowler was a reliable and consistent back pocket, nothing more. Yes, good pick up.Robbie Flower is still the greatest Demon I've ever seen. How he doesn't make it into the top 50 lists of GOAT'S is bemusing. Of his 272 games I reckon I missed only a handful live. To have won only one b &f and Fowler two is an indictment and embarrassment to all involved at the time. I am aware club voting is based differently to Brownlow's etc but Robbie was the consumate team player, clubman and superstar. Thankfully was humble and got on with it. I can remember Fowler being coy about the awards.

that list is from 2008 i take it by Mike Sheehan - a massive Robbie fan.  I can easily find room for Robbie on that list by taking out these (interesting all but Silvagni were happy to dish outside of the laws of the game rules but were heralded as stars):

35. Stephen Silvagni

28. Jack Dyer
10. Greg Williams

7. John Nicholls

6. Tony Lockett

4. Gary Ablett

3. Ted Whitten

2. Leigh Matthews

1. Wayne Carey

 


I’d like to add Steven Icke to the list of great recruits from other clubs.

Courage personified in a weak team.

I guess you’d have to add Peter Moore, though he didn’t shine in the above feature.

Brian Wilson, too, who helped get strong again in 1987.

  On 14/04/2024 at 13:31, Jumping Jack Clennett said:

I’d like to add Steven Icke to the list of great recruits from other clubs.

Courage personified in a weak team.

I guess you’d have to add Peter Moore, though he didn’t shine in the above feature.

Brian Wilson, too, who helped get strong again in 1987.

Steven Icke and Anthony Ingerson were two that immediately came to mind in defence.

Peter Moore won a Brownlow with us. If a debilitating back/ hamstring issue didn't cut his career short by at least a season Darcy Moore could well have been in Demon colours. Moore openly stated he loved the MFC.

 

I think Stephen May has been our best overall recruit from another team. Rarely if ever get's beaten and doesn't get the accolades he deserves mostly because he's a defender. That level of performance for that long as a forward and he'd be a megastar of the competition. 

On pure talent a previous excellent recruit for the Dees was Peter Vardy. Unfortunately his career was cut short due to injury. A great player to watch 

  On 15/04/2024 at 00:31, Deelectable said:

Peter Moore won a Brownlow with us. If a debilitating back/ hamstring issue didn't cut his career short by at least a season Darcy Moore could well have been in Demon colours. Moore openly stated he loved the MFC.

I’ve only ever heard Moore regret his decision to leave the Pies and have never heard him say anything positive about the dees. 


  On 15/04/2024 at 03:05, Wells 11 said:

I’ve only ever heard Moore regret his decision to leave the Pies and have never heard him say anything positive about the dees. 

I respectfully beg to differ. He left Collingwood in somewhat acrimonious circumstances.  Loved his time at the Dee's. 

  On 14/04/2024 at 13:53, dee-tox said:

Steven Icke and Anthony Ingerson were two that immediately came to mind in defence.

I'd have May and Lever as the best but these two are right up there along with Michael Hibberd and Brett Lovett.

In my humble opinion we got good value from Garry Baker, Brent Moloney, Bernie Vince, Alan Jarrott, Darren Bennett, Stephen Powell, Daniel Cross. No doubt there are plenty of others not yet mentioned.

Somebody already mentioned him, but Jeff White for my vote.

What might have been...

image.png.530c90ba4300a8c3c18f1eb8e347d9f2.png


  On 15/04/2024 at 03:59, Deelectable said:

I respectfully beg to differ. He left Collingwood in somewhat acrimonious circumstances.  Loved his time at the Dee's. 

Happy to be wrong Deelectable.

  • Author
  On 15/04/2024 at 04:30, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

What might have been...

image.png.530c90ba4300a8c3c18f1eb8e347d9f2.png

yes ... Clarkie ... reckon he won a few games off his own boot and marking?

hope Clarke is well

  On 15/04/2024 at 08:48, Wells 11 said:

Happy to be wrong Deelectable.

No worries mate. None of us can be 100% on these things. Even better than Moore early on was Kelvin Templeton.  They came together in an unprecedented coup. Pretty sure I was at a game at Kardinia Park when Templeton booted 8 goals in his second game for our club. Simply sensational! I was extremely buoyed with confidence with the brilliant Moore and others. Alas, Templeton's 3 seasons at Melbourne were riddled with injury and the rest is history. He did kick 51 goals in an interrupted second season and averaged a creditable 3 goals per game in a poor team hampered by achilles and other issues.  What might have been....

  On 15/04/2024 at 10:41, Deelectable said:

No worries mate. None of us can be 100% on these things. Even better than Moore early on was Kelvin Templeton.  They came together in an unprecedented coup. Pretty sure I was at a game at Kardinia Park when Templeton booted 8 goals in his second game for our club. Simply sensational! I was extremely buoyed with confidence with the brilliant Moore and others. Alas, Templeton's 3 seasons at Melbourne were riddled with injury and the rest is history. He did kick 51 goals in an interrupted second season and averaged a creditable 3 goals per game in a poor team hampered by achilles and other issues.  What might have been....

Yeah I remember the excitement of that summer with both of them coming. Another false dawn. I’m  so glad we won a flag to put memories like this to bed! 

  On 15/04/2024 at 10:41, Deelectable said:

He did kick 51 goals in an interrupted second season and averaged a creditable 3 goals per game in a poor team hampered by achilles and other issues.

 IIRC Kelvin also gave some of his salary back to the club because he felty guilty about not being able to perform consistently 


Jeff White 236 games

Brett Lovett 235 games

Brian Wilson 154 games

Laurie Fowler 140 games

Gary Baker 127 games 

Brent Moloney 122 games

Anthony Ingerson 121 games 

Michael Hibberd 113 games

* Jake Lever 110 games

* Jake Melksham 107 games 

below 100 Games, notable players include 

* Stephen May 98 games

*Ed Langdon 94 games 

Carl Ditterich,  Ricky Jackson, Clint Bizzell, Dom Tyson, Marcus Seecamp, Shane Zantuck, Bernie Vince, Alan Jarrott, Darren Bennett, Stephen Powell, Daniel Cross, Stephen Icke and of course Brent Crosswell and Mark Jackson. 

We got good value from Cam Pedersen 

 
  1. Steven May 98 games - 2x AA, 1x Premiership
  2. Jeff White 236 games - 1x AA
  3. Jake Lever 110 games - 1x AA - 1x Premiership
  4. Ed Langdon 94 games - 1x Premiership

Edited by SthSea22

  On 16/04/2024 at 01:57, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Don't forget Jeff Garlett.

Bit harsh with the vomit emoji Sthsea, when Garlett first came across he went pretty well.


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • PREVIEW: Brisbane

    And just like that, we’re Narrm again. Even though the annual AFL Sir Doug Nicholls Round which commemorates the contributions of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander culture to our game has been a welcome addition to our calendar for ten years, more lately it has been a portent of tough times ahead for we beleaguered Narrm supporters. Ever since the club broke through for its historic 2021 premiership, this has become a troubling time of the year for the club. For example, it all began when Melbourne rebranded itself as Narrm across the two rounds of the Sir Doug Nicholls Round to become the first club to adopt an Indigenous club name especially for the occasion. It won its first outing under the brand against lowly North Melbourne to go to 10 wins and no losses but not without a struggle or a major injury to  star winger Ed Langdon who broke his ribs and missed several weeks. In the following week, still as Narrm, the team’s 17 game winning streak came to an end at the hands of the Dockers. That came along with more injuries, a plague that remained with them for the remainder of the season until, beset by injuries, the Dees were eliminated from the finals in straight sets. It was even worse last year, when Narrm inexplicably lowered its colours in Perth to the Waalit Marawar Eagles. Oh, the shame of it all! At least this year, if there is a corner to turn around, it has to be in the direction of something better. To that end, I produced a special pre-game chant in the local Narrm language - “nam mi:wi winnamun katjil prolin ambi ngamar thamelin amb” which roughly translated is “every heart beats true for the red and the blue.” >y belief is that if all of the Narrm faithful recite it long enough, then it might prove to be the only way to beat the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba on Sunday. The Lions are coming off a disappointing draw at Marvel Stadium against a North Melbourne team that lacks the ability and know how to win games (except when playing Melbourne). Brisbane are, however, a different kettle of fish at home and have very few positional weaknesses. They are a midfield powerhouse, strong in defence and have plenty of forward options, particularly their small and medium sized players, to kick a winning score this week after the sting of last week’s below par performance.

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 5 replies
    Demonland
  • REPORT: Hawthorn

    There was a time during the current Melbourne cycle that goes back to before the premiership when the club was the toughest to beat in the fourth quarter. The Demons were not only hard to beat at any time but it was virtually impossible to get the better them when scores were close at three quarter time. It was only three or four years ago but they were fit, strong and resilient in body and mind. Sadly, those days are over. This has been the case since the club fell off its pedestal about 12 months ago after it beat Geelong and then lost to Carlton. In both instances, Melbourne put together strong, stirring final quarters, one that resulted in victory, the other, in defeat. Since then, the drop off has been dramatic to the point where it can neither pull off victory in close matches, nor can it even go down in defeat  gallantly.

      • Clap
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 0 replies
    Demonland
  • CASEY: Footscray

    At twenty-four minutes into the third term of the game between the Casey Demons and Footscray VFL at Whitten Oval, the visitors were coasting. They were winning all over the ground, had the ascendancy in the ruck battles and held a 26 point lead on a day perfect for football. What could go wrong? Everything. The Bulldogs moved into overdrive in the last five minutes of the term and booted three straight goals to reduce the margin to a highly retrievable eight points at the last break. Bouyed by that effort, their confidence was on a high level during the interval and they ran all over the despondent Demons and kicked another five goals to lead by a comfortable margin of four goals deep into the final term before Paddy Cross kicked a couple of too late goals for a despondent Casey. A testament to their lack of pressure in the latter stages of the game was the fact that Footscray’s last ten scoring shots were nine goals and one rushed behind. Things might have been different for the Demons who went into the game after last week’s bye with 12 AFL listed players. Blake Howes was held over for the AFL game but two others, Jack Billings and Taj Woewodin (not officially listed as injured) were also missing and they could have been handy at the end. Another mystery of the current VFL system.

      • Thanks
    • 0 replies
    Demonland
  • PREGAME: Brisbane

    The Demons head back out on the road in Round 10 when they travel to Queensland to take on the reigning Premiers and the top of the table Lions who look very formidable. Can the Dees cause a massive upset? Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 136 replies
    Demonland
  • PODCAST: Hawthorn

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 12th May @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect the Demons loss to the Hawks. Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human.

      • Clap
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 52 replies
    Demonland
  • POSTGAME: Hawthorn

    Wayward kicking for goal, dump kicks inside 50 and some baffling umpiring all contributed to the Dees not getting out to an an early lead that may have impacted the result. At the end of the day the Demons were just not good enough and let the Hawks run away with their first win against the Demons in 7 years.

      • Clap
      • Love
      • Like
    • 376 replies
    Demonland