hello

this might not be the first time this topic has been canvassed on DL but I listened to last week's Deemonland podcast (the Rd 4 deefeat of Adelaide) today.

I listen a week late as I, like many of us here, suffer from MFCSS - so I keep a positive game review in the bank for a week - so this week, after the Dee-vasting loss against the AFL-backed Brisbane - I listen to happiness and not the downer of a loss.

On the Rd 4 podcast the question of Steven May or Jake Lever or Ed Langdon being our best recruit from another club.

I love 'em all and boy how good our recruiting star Jason Taylor - recruited by coach Mark Neeld BTW!

Some other names were raised: Dietrich twice from that organisation in Moorabbin (I can't type that name of that place); Jeffie White from FreddoFrogs; and Brett Lovett from Hawthorn reserves (three seasons in that club's seconds and not an easy club to break into during the Dawks' golden era: post-Matthews, but his approach to the game taken over by Brereton and Dippierdomenico and Lovett did not approach footy like them).

I have two more names to add - as an honourable mention Henry Coles but what about Laurie Fowler?

Fowler three Blueys. 1975, '79 and '80 (retired in 1981) and they were all when Robbie was playing.

I am Dee-sappointed that Robbie only won on Bluey (1977).

I looked up their games played in each of these four years as Robbie used to be humble when asked of his one-and-only Bluey stating how good Laurie was.

So, 1975 Laurie all 22 games - Robbie 20; 1977 Laurie 17 games and Robbie 20; 1979 Laurie and Robbie both 21 games; 1980 Laurie 21 games and Robbie 22.

I don't know the voting numbers of each but based on the Blueys - Laurie has to be one of the best recruits we've ever landed from another club.

Just wish he'd wiped out Nicholls when wearing the RnB and not when playin for Dump Rd!

And, can you believe it's been 10 years since Robbie died?

thanks DL podcasters and bloggers.

A-S

The things you forget...

 

47 minutes ago, Anti-Saint said:

hello

this might not be the first time this topic has been canvassed on DL but I listened to last week's Deemonland podcast (the Rd 4 deefeat of Adelaide) today.

I listen a week late as I, like many of us here, suffer from MFCSS - so I keep a positive game review in the bank for a week - so this week, after the Dee-vasting loss against the AFL-backed Brisbane - I listen to happiness and not the downer of a loss.

On the Rd 4 podcast the question of Steven May or Jake Lever or Ed Langdon being our best recruit from another club.

I love 'em all and boy how good our recruiting star Jason Taylor - recruited by coach Mark Neeld BTW!

Some other names were raised: Dietrich twice from that organisation in Moorabbin (I can't type that name of that place); Jeffie White from FreddoFrogs; and Brett Lovett from Hawthorn reserves (three seasons in that club's seconds and not an easy club to break into during the Dawks' golden era: post-Matthews, but his approach to the game taken over by Brereton and Dippierdomenico and Lovett did not approach footy like them).

I have two more names to add - as an honourable mention Henry Coles but what about Laurie Fowler?

Fowler three Blueys. 1975, '79 and '80 (retired in 1981) and they were all when Robbie was playing.

I am Dee-sappointed that Robbie only won on Bluey (1977).

I looked up their games played in each of these four years as Robbie used to be humble when asked of his one-and-only Bluey stating how good Laurie was.

So, 1975 Laurie all 22 games - Robbie 20; 1977 Laurie 17 games and Robbie 20; 1979 Laurie and Robbie both 21 games; 1980 Laurie 21 games and Robbie 22.

I don't know the voting numbers of each but based on the Blueys - Laurie has to be one of the best recruits we've ever landed from another club.

Just wish he'd wiped out Nicholls when wearing the RnB and not when playin for Dump Rd!

And, can you believe it's been 10 years since Robbie died?

thanks DL podcasters and bloggers.

A-S

Laurie Fowler was a reliable and consistent back pocket, nothing more. Yes, good pick up.Robbie Flower is still the greatest Demon I've ever seen. How he doesn't make it into the top 50 lists of GOAT'S is bemusing. Of his 272 games I reckon I missed only a handful live. To have won only one b &f and Fowler two is an indictment and embarrassment to all involved at the time. I am aware club voting is based differently to Brownlow's etc but Robbie was the consumate team player, clubman and superstar. Thankfully was humble and got on with it. I can remember Fowler being coy about the awards.

7 minutes ago, Deelectable said:

Laurie Fowler was a reliable and consistent back pocket, nothing more.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Apart from his early days at Melbourne Fowler played as a ruck rover ie on the ball. He was outstanding for us and was selected for Victoria a couple of times.

3 B&F & one second placing in 7 seasons.  An outstanding player for us.

The fact that Robbie Flower only won 1 B&F remains a mystery but voting is clearly a subjective matter.

17 minutes ago, Deelectable said:

Laurie Fowler was a reliable and consistent back pocket, nothing more. Yes, good pick up.Robbie Flower is still the greatest Demon I've ever seen. How he doesn't make it into the top 50 lists of GOAT'S is bemusing. Of his 272 games I reckon I missed only a handful live. To have won only one b &f and Fowler two is an indictment and embarrassment to all involved at the time. I am aware club voting is based differently to Brownlow's etc but Robbie was the consumate team player, clubman and superstar. Thankfully was humble and got on with it. I can remember Fowler being coy about the awards.

that list is from 2008 i take it by Mike Sheehan - a massive Robbie fan.  I can easily find room for Robbie on that list by taking out these (interesting all but Silvagni were happy to dish outside of the laws of the game rules but were heralded as stars):

35. Stephen Silvagni

28. Jack Dyer
10. Greg Williams

7. John Nicholls

6. Tony Lockett

4. Gary Ablett

3. Ted Whitten

2. Leigh Matthews

1. Wayne Carey

 

I’d like to add Steven Icke to the list of great recruits from other clubs.

Courage personified in a weak team.

I guess you’d have to add Peter Moore, though he didn’t shine in the above feature.

Brian Wilson, too, who helped get strong again in 1987.

20 minutes ago, Jumping Jack Clennett said:

I’d like to add Steven Icke to the list of great recruits from other clubs.

Courage personified in a weak team.

I guess you’d have to add Peter Moore, though he didn’t shine in the above feature.

Brian Wilson, too, who helped get strong again in 1987.

Steven Icke and Anthony Ingerson were two that immediately came to mind in defence.

Peter Moore won a Brownlow with us. If a debilitating back/ hamstring issue didn't cut his career short by at least a season Darcy Moore could well have been in Demon colours. Moore openly stated he loved the MFC.

I think Stephen May has been our best overall recruit from another team. Rarely if ever get's beaten and doesn't get the accolades he deserves mostly because he's a defender. That level of performance for that long as a forward and he'd be a megastar of the competition. 

On pure talent a previous excellent recruit for the Dees was Peter Vardy. Unfortunately his career was cut short due to injury. A great player to watch 

2 hours ago, Deelectable said:

Peter Moore won a Brownlow with us. If a debilitating back/ hamstring issue didn't cut his career short by at least a season Darcy Moore could well have been in Demon colours. Moore openly stated he loved the MFC.

I’ve only ever heard Moore regret his decision to leave the Pies and have never heard him say anything positive about the dees. 

53 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

I’ve only ever heard Moore regret his decision to leave the Pies and have never heard him say anything positive about the dees. 

I respectfully beg to differ. He left Collingwood in somewhat acrimonious circumstances.  Loved his time at the Dee's. 

13 hours ago, dee-tox said:

Steven Icke and Anthony Ingerson were two that immediately came to mind in defence.

I'd have May and Lever as the best but these two are right up there along with Michael Hibberd and Brett Lovett.

In my humble opinion we got good value from Garry Baker, Brent Moloney, Bernie Vince, Alan Jarrott, Darren Bennett, Stephen Powell, Daniel Cross. No doubt there are plenty of others not yet mentioned.

Somebody already mentioned him, but Jeff White for my vote.

What might have been...

4 hours ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

What might have been...

I remember that day. Another part in one of the darkest eras in the clubs history.

4 hours ago, Deelectable said:

I respectfully beg to differ. He left Collingwood in somewhat acrimonious circumstances.  Loved his time at the Dee's. 

Happy to be wrong Deelectable.

4 hours ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

What might have been...

yes ... Clarkie ... reckon he won a few games off his own boot and marking?

hope Clarke is well

1 hour ago, Wells 11 said:

Happy to be wrong Deelectable.

No worries mate. None of us can be 100% on these things. Even better than Moore early on was Kelvin Templeton.  They came together in an unprecedented coup. Pretty sure I was at a game at Kardinia Park when Templeton booted 8 goals in his second game for our club. Simply sensational! I was extremely buoyed with confidence with the brilliant Moore and others. Alas, Templeton's 3 seasons at Melbourne were riddled with injury and the rest is history. He did kick 51 goals in an interrupted second season and averaged a creditable 3 goals per game in a poor team hampered by achilles and other issues.  What might have been....

14 minutes ago, Deelectable said:

No worries mate. None of us can be 100% on these things. Even better than Moore early on was Kelvin Templeton.  They came together in an unprecedented coup. Pretty sure I was at a game at Kardinia Park when Templeton booted 8 goals in his second game for our club. Simply sensational! I was extremely buoyed with confidence with the brilliant Moore and others. Alas, Templeton's 3 seasons at Melbourne were riddled with injury and the rest is history. He did kick 51 goals in an interrupted second season and averaged a creditable 3 goals per game in a poor team hampered by achilles and other issues.  What might have been....

Yeah I remember the excitement of that summer with both of them coming. Another false dawn. I’m  so glad we won a flag to put memories like this to bed! 

8 hours ago, Deelectable said:

He did kick 51 goals in an interrupted second season and averaged a creditable 3 goals per game in a poor team hampered by achilles and other issues.

 IIRC Kelvin also gave some of his salary back to the club because he felty guilty about not being able to perform consistently 

Jeff White 236 games

Brett Lovett 235 games

Brian Wilson 154 games

Laurie Fowler 140 games

Gary Baker 127 games 

Brent Moloney 122 games

Anthony Ingerson 121 games 

Michael Hibberd 113 games

* Jake Lever 110 games

* Jake Melksham 107 games 

below 100 Games, notable players include 

* Stephen May 98 games

*Ed Langdon 94 games 

Carl Ditterich,  Ricky Jackson, Clint Bizzell, Dom Tyson, Marcus Seecamp, Shane Zantuck, Bernie Vince, Alan Jarrott, Darren Bennett, Stephen Powell, Daniel Cross, Stephen Icke and of course Brent Crosswell and Mark Jackson. 

We got good value from Cam Pedersen 

Don't forget Jeff Garlett.

1. Steven May 98 games - 2x AA, 1x Premiership
2. Jeff White 236 games - 1x AA
3. Jake Lever 110 games - 1x AA - 1x Premiership
4. Ed Langdon 94 games - 1x Premiership

Edited April 16, 20241 yr by SthSea22

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Don't forget Jeff Garlett.

Bit harsh with the vomit emoji Sthsea, when Garlett first came across he went pretty well.