NON-MFC: Round 04

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

10 minutes ago, BoBo said:

I just watched the Freo dissent decision and I’d like to know what dissent is regarded as now?

 Because if dissent is questioning the umpires decision, that happens in every single quarter of every match I’ve seen this year multiple times.

Players on the mark constantly dispute decisions… why no dissent? If the umpire calls a mark and the opposition player on the mark says ‘X player touched it’ or ‘that ball was out of bounds’’ for example, that is dissent. Why was Freo called for it when it gets overlooked constantly in all of these other times?

Have you seen the behind the goals vision BoBo? 
Clark must’ve given the ump an almighty spray after Cottrell kicked the goal because you can see his teammate in Walker waving his arms telling him to stop. 

[Willmoy1947 4,090]

11 minutes ago, BoBo said:

I just watched the Freo dissent decision and I’d like to know what dissent is regarded as now?

 Because if dissent is questioning the umpires decision, that happens in every single quarter of every match I’ve seen this year multiple times.

Players on the mark constantly dispute decisions… why no dissent? If the umpire calls a mark and the opposition player on the mark says ‘X player touched it’ or ‘that ball was out of bounds’’ for example, that is dissent. Why was Freo called for it when it gets overlooked constantly in all of these other times?

Agree here. The AFL boss said they are considering the two incidents on the basis of first the touched mark incident and the dissent incident, with the dissent result still being reviewed, and they agree that the touched was wrong.

Problem is that the second incident would not have happened if the adjudication was correct in the first place allowing the game obviously to a win for Fremantle..

[djr 1,503]

5 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Have you seen the behind the goals vision BoBo? 
Clark must’ve given the ump an almighty spray after Cottrell kicked the goal because you can see his teammate in Walker waving his arms telling him to stop. 

Yes he did. According to other media reports, it was quite vicious.

[Sir Why You Little 37,046]

So the AFL have admitted that the Carlton goal was the WRONG decision. 
 

GET SOME DECENT 4k Cameras fitted at every game ya Cheap Bastards. 
 

All Clubs should go on strike until this is completely sorted out

It makes a mockery of the whole Competition 

how I despise the useless overpaid suits who run the AFL

[Willmoy1947 4,090]

5 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Have you seen the behind the goals vision BoBo? 
Clark must’ve given the ump an almighty spray after Cottrell kicked the goal because you can see his teammate in Walker waving his arms telling him to stop. 

Like most of Carlton's players they play a very doubtful, shifty and sooky type of borderline take any advantage, if you can get away with it.

[djr 1,503]

2 minutes ago, Willmoy1947 said:

Agree here. The AFL boss said they are considering the two incidents on the basis of first the touched mark incident and the dissent incident, with the dissent result still being reviewed, and they agree that the touched was wrong.

Problem is that the second incident would not have happened if the adjudication was correct in the first place allowing the game obviously to a win for Fremantle..

No field umpire would have called touched even when vision showed that the ball grazed a hairfollicle of the docker player. No umpire would have noticed that. 

[Willmoy1947 4,090]

Just now, djr said:

No field umpire would have called touched even when vision showed that the ball grazed a hairfollicle of the docker player. No umpire would have noticed that. 

Pretty loud follicle if six players heard it at the same time.

Another thing is that this seems to be a feature of Carlton. Change to frenzy, make sure it's in the forward line and you are bound to be given a charity  by brown p/b maggots. Dare i say five times out of last ten games

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

5 minutes ago, djr said:

No field umpire would have called touched even when vision showed that the ball grazed a hairfollicle of the docker player. No umpire would have noticed that. 

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/fan-shot-footage-confirms-carltons-blatant-robbery-over-fremantle-after-controversial-mark-c-14222844

Maybe the AFL can you use this fan’s phone for reviews. Pretty clear the ball deflects when you slow it down, maybe harder during real speed.

[Sir Why You Little 37,046]

17 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/fan-shot-footage-confirms-carltons-blatant-robbery-over-fremantle-after-controversial-mark-c-14222844

Maybe the AFL can you use this fan’s phone for reviews. Pretty clear the ball deflects when you slow it down, maybe harder during real speed.

The AFL should all be sacked over this. But of course they will all survive. 
They had 6 months to fully sort this out after the Adelaide debacle, and have done Sweet F$&@ all. 
The Arc is pathetic. They spend time reviewing shots that are clearly fine, but refuse to make serious calls because the Cameras are total garbage 

we the Fans and the Clubs must demand that the AFL fit 4k Cameras at every AFL VENUE 

Paid for by the AFL, not the Broadcaster 

Maybe the suits will have to take a Pay Cut

 

[ElDiablo14 4,999]

23 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The AFL should all be sacked over this. But of course they will all survive. 
They had 6 months to fully sort this out after the Adelaide debacle, and have done Sweet F$&@ all. 
The Arc is pathetic. They spend time reviewing shots that are clearly fine, but refuse to make serious calls because the Cameras are total garbage 

we the Fans and the Clubs must demand that the AFL fit 4k Cameras at every AFL VENUE 

Paid for by the AFL, not the Broadcaster 

Maybe the suits will have to take a Pay Cut

 

Tell Crypto.com to pay for it, since they love the advertisement during those ARC reviews. Btw, they should use spider cameras to have a bird's eye view of the action.

[Sir Why You Little 37,046]

2 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Tell Crypto.com to pay for it, since they love the advertisement during those ARC reviews. Btw, they should use spider cameras to have a bird's eye view of the action.

Spider Cameras can be one of many options available. There should be no hidden angle. 
I want to see the AFL spend some money on the game, and not themselves for a change 

[sue 9,107]

1 hour ago, djr said:

No field umpire would have called touched even when vision showed that the ball grazed a hairfollicle of the docker player. No umpire would have noticed that. 

Probably not. But I was just watching the GWS/Sun game and they had a video review after the umpire didn't pay a ball touched but several oppo players made a fuss..  Why not do that in every such case and maybe introduce penalties if it is clear the player claiming to have touched it is lying?

it was determined as touched

Edited April 7 by sue

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

When is Mac Andrew coming home?

[demon3165 2,719]

If the umpire didn't hear so be it he only gives decisions on what they see or hear or do we now just say that if a player says he touched it it must be so.  Stop blaming umpires for everything it's a damm hard job,  players make more mistakes than umpires during the game yet all supporters can say it's the umpires fault we lost the game.

No game with officiating officials is not perfect.

[whatwhat say what 22,771]

Just now, demon3165 said:

If the umpire didn't hear so be it he only gives decisions on what they see or hear or do we now just say that if a player says he touched it it must be so.  Stop blaming umpires for everything it's a damm hard job,  players make more mistakes than umpires during the game yet all supporters can say it's the umpires fault we lost the game.

No game with officiating officials is not perfect.

i can't think of another 'professional' league where the 'officiating officials' are part-timers

how do you accordingly hold them to account? in the afl, they don't

3 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

When is Mac Andrew coming home?

he's looking the goods as a tall defender

[demon3165 2,719]

Just now, whatwhat say what said:

i can't think of another 'professional' league where the 'officiating officials' are part-timers

how do you accordingly hold them to account? in the afl, they don't

he's looking the goods as a tall defender

You play with what given to you, being full time would not have helped with the players touching the ball around the ground. But I believe they should be full time.

[BDA 22,755]

4 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

When is Mac Andrew coming home?

playing well today. Once he adds some kgs he could be another Alir Alir. Need to go on a diet of potatoes, pasta and gravy.

[Little Goffy 14,568]

Jack Lukosius today has provided the perfect textbook example of what 'disposal efficiency' is and is not.

The key is that a disposal is still counted as effective if it travels beyond a certain distance (I think 40m?) to a contest.

As I'm looking at the stats now, Lukosius has 22 disposals, going at 81% efficiency, for a total of 680 metres gained (!!) but also seven turnovers. So, with a third of his disposals being outright turnovers he's still got close to the best DE% on the field because he is banging it on average more than 30m forward every time he gets it!

[Sir Why You Little 37,046]

Toby Greene must be reported for his tackle on Andrews. slung him to the ground, head bounced on the turf. 
 

 

[BDA 22,755]

Typical Suns. You can rely on them for nothing. 

[Stevienic23 1,183]

Glad to see we only play GWS once (and WCE twice!)

[Little Goffy 14,568]

2 hours ago, BDA said:

Suns will do what they always do. Tease and then lose.

I reckon giants by 25 points.

Quoting just to give credit for the precision call.

[spirit of norm smith 16,462]

Giants 4-0. Definitely a premiership threat. 
Stars.  Kelly. Green. Coniglio. Greene. Taylor. Whitfield.  
Very strong soldiers to support. Himmelberg. Brown. Buckley. Ash. Daniels. Idun.
Developing stars. Callaghan. Cadman. 
And two very exciting forwards in Hogan and Bedford.  
Orange tsunami a real danger. 

[Demonland 72,213]

 

[Tarax Club 3,916]

1 hour ago, BDA said:

playing well today. Once he adds some kgs he could be another Alir Alir. Need to go on a diet of potatoes, pasta and gravy.

Thought a high protein diet was the go to build muscle mass. Excess carbs could be converted to fats. My personal favourite stout and bananas. Beamish, Guinness and ladyfingers preferred.