On 04/11/2023 at 10:27, Jibroni said:

 

Gambling advertising should be banned as its becoming a cancer to TV viewers. I only watch Friday night games outside of Dees games and most games provide little inspiration to watch.

The quality of media commentary is also putrid compared to other sports. 

 

Gambling has to go Soon they’ll dispense with games and have wall to wall Ads

  On 13/11/2023 at 04:25, Deebauched said:

Collingwood never plays at Geelong and Carlton and Essendon rarely venture down to that hell hole.

Essendon went there for the first time in years and it started their downfall in '23. Wont see them down there again.

Melbourne get sent there almost every year so we're carrying those teams not to mention serious injuries to  our key players.

No umpiring academy so the game is umpired by weekend circus clowns.

Goal review cameras basically obsolete junk that Radio Shack wouldnt stock. 

VFL scheduling is a mess often with emergency players unable to play at either level.

Players from big clubs protected by the rigged AFL tribunal. Recent examples...Cripps v lions and Maynard in QF. He was never going to be suspended. JVR  May or Pickett would of got 4-6 weeks. 

AFL is run by amateurs propped up by their own ilk...the media.

Next year Dillon will be celebrated as a great new administrator.

Tricky Gil should never have restarted AFL season in 2020.

No praise from me.

Crammed 17 rounds into a short period of time with 16 minute quarters and absurd scheduling. Suited older sides like Geelong beautifully. Scott was overcome with joy but still managed to lose GF.

Amateur run comp.

Old mate on the absolute warpath here

Love it 

  On 08/11/2023 at 01:36, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

 

I've stopped watching non-Melbourne games but simply because there is too much football on TV. Thursday nights has tipped me over the edge.

I like Thursday night games, love the footy,  just not when we're playing

  On 05/11/2023 at 03:56, Queanbeyan Demon said:

I'm not going to argue that the AFL is totally transparent, trustworthy and not keen on maximising revenue, occasionally by foul means, but mostly fair. However, the paranoia in here is beyond extreme.

1. Gill doesn't set his salary level - this will almost certainly be set by the Board of the Commission using a number of internal and external benchmarks.
2. Gill is not incompetent/inept/corrupt. For example, to keep the comp going during COVID-19 was an extraordinary achievement. Anyone who watched his press interviews during that time would have seen a man deprived of sleep and under tremendous pressure. Commercially and financially the comp is in the best condition is living memory.  His management of the huge, self-interested and toxic egos in clubland is extraordinary. The list is long, but we can start with Triple Chins, Kennett and Cochrane. I wouldn't have any of them within 100 metres of my home, let alone pay me enough to work with them.
3. Regarding the fixture, yes it's mostly %$&*)@, but I've yet to hear practical solutions to all the dilemmas the fixture throws up. Putting a bandaid on one wound simplely creates another wound elsewhere.
4. Yes, the 
5. The umpiring standards, MOR and score review system is completely %$&*)@ and should be improved - no doubt about that and I cannot defend it.
6. There is no doubt Goyder is incompetent and should not be the chair of a major sporting competition (let alone an airline) - and I cannot defend that. 
7. And finally, to say the AFL are the most corrupt sporting organization on the planet is beyond extreme. Anyone noticed the BCCI, OIC or FIDA lately? They place the corporate corruption and organisational toxicity and incompetence of the Federal Reserve, Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac, Credit Suisse and Bear Stearns in the veritable shade.

Good summary QD, and who, pray tell, have you had near your home?

  On 13/11/2023 at 04:25, Deebauched said:

Collingwood never plays at Geelong and Carlton and Essendon rarely venture down to that hell hole.

Essendon went there for the first time in years and it started their downfall in '23. Wont see them down there again.

Melbourne get sent there almost every year so we're carrying those teams not to mention serious injuries to  our key players.

No umpiring academy so the game is umpired by weekend circus clowns.

Goal review cameras basically obsolete junk that Radio Shack wouldnt stock. 

VFL scheduling is a mess often with emergency players unable to play at either level.

Players from big clubs protected by the rigged AFL tribunal. Recent examples...Cripps v lions and Maynard in QF. He was never going to be suspended. JVR  May or Pickett would of got 4-6 weeks. 

AFL is run by amateurs propped up by their own ilk...the media.

Next year Dillon will be celebrated as a great new administrator.

Tricky Gil should never have restarted AFL season in 2020.

No praise from me.

Crammed 17 rounds into a short period of time with 16 minute quarters and absurd scheduling. Suited older sides like Geelong beautifully. Scott was overcome with joy but still managed to lose GF.

Amateur run comp.

“….AFL is run by amateurs propped up by their own ilk...the media….”

Not quite.  Amateurs aren’t paid millions plus bonuses.  

  On 03/11/2023 at 00:12, Fork 'em said:

Replace NBA with AFL.
Sixers with Melbourne.
Heat with Collingwood, Celtics with Carlton.
Tell me I'm wrong.
 

 

Not only rigged.... totally Corrupt!🤮

  On 13/11/2023 at 10:47, picket fence said:

Not only rigged.... totally Corrupt!🤮

Yes, not so much rigged, as corrupt.

I mean, it is rigged. When did we last play WCE twice in a year? When did we last play them not in Perth?

How many times in the last 20 years have EFC, CFC, RFC played Geelong in Geelong?

Follow the money. I understand the AFL has to run at a profit in the interests of stewardship of the game. Ask grass roots footy how well that's going for them.

As for corruption, I take it as meaning "polluted, corroded, impure" rather than "brown paper bags under the table". Only have to look at the recent Cripps & Maynard tribunal farces for examples. Not to mention the calculated looking the other way in the EFC drugs, sorry, supplements scandal, sorry, saga. The complete arbitrariness on any and every issue. The list goes on and on.

If it wasn't for my deep seated but irrational love for the mighty MFC I don't think I would give any attention to the AFL. This last season I watched more NRL than AFL!

  On 13/11/2023 at 21:24, Mazer Rackham said:

Yes, not so much rigged, as corrupt.

...

If it wasn't for my deep seated but irrational love for the mighty MFC I don't think I would give any attention to the AFL. This last season I watched more NRL than AFL!

As a matter of interest, do supporters of the NRL feel the same way about their competition and its administrators as so many Demonlanders obviously do?

(Disclosure: I don't agree with most of the comments in this thread. I've always believed that if it's a choice between a [censored]-up or a conspiracy, go with a [censored]-up every time.) 

Edit: In case it's not obvious, the censored word is an alternative to "rooster".

Edited November 13, 20231 yr by La Dee-vina Comedia

The AFL [censored] over us time and time again whilst certainly play favourites eg we have at Geelong each year and Colllingwood haven't played Geelong at Kardinia Park for eons etc..... The Gather Round in 2024 us and Essendon play Adelaide and Port whilst all the other sides play at neutral venues.

I'll hold fire until I see the full fixture. As far as I'm concerned it's just an away game in Adelaide and those living in Melbourne won't miss out on a Vic clash. I'm more concerned about the potential for a 5 day break leading into the game.

NRL is no different. Broncos get a sweet draw, Penriff get helped by the refs even when they don't need it, Roosters don't have a salary cap....

  On 14/11/2023 at 02:51, samcantstandya said:

The AFL [censored] over us time and time again whilst certainly play favourites eg we have at Geelong each year and Colllingwood haven't played Geelong at Kardinia Park for eons etc..... The Gather Round in 2024 us and Essendon play Adelaide and Port whilst all the other sides play at neutral venues.

This year it was Bulldogs and Carlton that had to play the SA teams in Gather Round.

Next year it’s us and Essendon.

The year after it will be two other teams.

Cleary it’s on a rotational basis. I’m struggling to comprehend what the issue is here??

 

...and you're probably going to have to play them there at some point, wouldn't that week be best? 

  On 16/11/2023 at 04:05, Dee*ceiving said:

...and you're probably going to have to play them there at some point, wouldn't that week be best? 

should be a six day break, at least

  On 13/11/2023 at 22:29, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

 

(Disclosure: I don't agree with most of the comments in this thread. I've always believed that if it's a choice between a [censored]-up or a conspiracy, go with a [censored]-up every time.) 

 

Whereas I prefer to call what most of the MSM label conspiracy theories spoiler alerts.



 

Edited November 18, 20231 yr by Fork 'em

  On 16/11/2023 at 12:53, whatwhat say what said:

should be a six day break, at least

You're not wrong. Port then Adelaide back to back in Adelaide 5 days a part is an absolute joke