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We’re into September and with the coming of Spring, the first of the Phantom Drafts begin to rise up. ESPN has a new reporter doing its draft work and here’s his effort with less than three months to go before the real thing-

AFL Phantom Draft: How will the first round of the 2023 draft play out?

Spoiler alert: Harley Reid is #1. 😀

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    Trouble with Phantom Drafts at this time of year is that things change over the finals and then again when trading starts. 

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    3 hours ago, Chelly said:

    Trouble with Phantom Drafts at this time of year is that things change over the finals and then again when trading starts. 

    Exactly.

    I love Phantom Drafts. 🥰

    But it's even a bit too early for me until about October.

    No harm in speculation though.

    The most pleasing thing is that the Melbourne Demons are now a "destination club". About 10 years ago I don't think many young draftees would say they were looking forward to being picked in the draft by us. How time (and success) changes things!

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    3 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    We’re into September and with the coming of Spring, the first of the Phantom Drafts begin to rise up. ESPN has a new reporter doing its draft work and here’s his effort with less than three months to go before the real thing-

    AFL Phantom Draft: How will the first round of the 2023 draft play out?

    Spoiler alert: Harley Reid is #1. 😀

    Well we know picks 1 and 3 won't happen that way, if the current owners retain them.

    It is more of a rating.

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    3 hours ago, Redleg said:

    Well we know picks 1 and 3 won't happen that way, if the current owners retain them.

    It is more of a rating.


    Are we sure? I’m not convinced.

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    10 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    We’re into September and with the coming of Spring, the first of the Phantom Drafts begin to rise up. ESPN has a new reporter doing its draft work and here’s his effort with less than three months to go before the real thing-

    AFL Phantom Draft: How will the first round of the 2023 draft play out?

    Spoiler alert: Harley Reid is #1. 😀

    Hard to do a phantom with academy selections. GCs pick 4 will change hands but for the purpose of this exercise seems to have been omitted from this phantom draft altogether.

    Edited by Nascent

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    1 hour ago, Mach5 said:


    Are we sure? I’m not convinced.

    So you think WC will take Reid and Roos will take Curtin.

    I can't see that happening.

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    It really is a sign of how much of a mess West Coast is that they aren't doing cartwheels at the idea of bringing in a talent like Harley Reid. 

    For the record i think they'll end up with Curtin one way or another.

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    3 hours ago, Redleg said:

    So you think WC will take Reid and Roos will take Curtin.

    I can't see that happening.


    Whatever happened to “best available”? 

    Being Victorian didn’t stop them from selecting Chesser.

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    27 minutes ago, Mach5 said:


    Whatever happened to “best available”? 

    Being Victorian didn’t stop them from selecting Chesser.

    From what we know WC want Curtin and Roos would take Reid over Curtin and that would remove go home factor as well.

    Of course clubs take interstate players, but from all known info at this stage,  these clubs want the home player.

    We will see what happens. 

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    7 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    From what we know WC want Curtin and Roos would take Reid over Curtin and that would remove go home factor as well.

    Of course clubs take interstate players, but from all known info at this stage,  these clubs want the home player.

    We will see what happens. 


    These aren’t knowns. It’s speculation.

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    On 9/1/2023 at 4:40 PM, Redleg said:

    So you think WC will take Reid and Roos will take Curtin.

    I can't see that happening.

    West Coast will take Curtin. 

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    56 minutes ago, H_T said:

    West Coast will take Curtin. 

    We agree.

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    2 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

    Sanders and Windsor would be a great result for us.

    still, like Caddy if we could manage that

     

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    10 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    2023 AFL Mock Draft: Picks 1-27 (first edition)

    How does this one sound to you?

    @Whispering_Jack I have done a starter phantom draft under topic “2023 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch”. Happy to bring it across to this for easier discussion.  

    Edited by spirit of norm smith
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    10 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    2023 AFL Mock Draft: Picks 1-27 (first edition)

    How does this one sound to you?

    I'd be disappointed that we couldn't grab either of O'Sullivan or Murphy with '11', nor Curtin at '6', but going through that list you can see why the push from 14 to 11 was considered important. After Windsor or Tholstrup there's a bit of a gap for what we want in both hype and type.

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    Windsor moves well. Paul Wheatley vibes.

    If provided the opportunity I think we’d opt for Leake first, but he’s more likely to be gone by then IMO.

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    44 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

    Windsor moves well. Paul Wheatley vibes.

    If provided the opportunity I think we’d opt for Leake first, but he’s more likely to be gone by then IMO.

    Caleb Windsor reminds me more of a Max Holmes type. Quick. Loves to run.  Good tackler.   Likes to get inside 50 and snag a goal. 

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    12 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    Caleb Windsor reminds me more of a Max Holmes type. Quick. Loves to run.  Good tackler.   Likes to get inside 50 and snag a goal. 

    Very good comparison. His leg speed, two way running and attacking flair are a key reason why he's shooting up draft boards and we're reportedly interested.

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    36 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

    Very good comparison. His leg speed, two way running and attacking flair are a key reason why he's shooting up draft boards and we're reportedly interested.

    Sounds like exactly what we need

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    Rough early walk through in 1st round (have no inside intel like Cal or Riley);  just where likely types are best available. 

    1- WCE. Harley Reid 

    2-*GCS Jed Walter gcs academy gift 

    3- NM Coby Mckercher 

    4- NM Zane Duursma afl gift 

    5- HAW Dan Curtin

    6- WB Nick Watson 

    7- MELB Ryley Sanders 

    8- *GCS Ethan Read gcs academy gift 

    9- GWS Nate Caddy

    10- GEE Connor O’Sullivan

    11- *GCS Jake Rogers gcs academy gift 

    12- ESS Darcy Wilson

    13- ADEL James Leake 

    14- MELB Caleb Windsor 

    15- Syd. Koltyn Tholstrup. 

    16- Stk Ollie Murphy

    17- ADEL Riley Hardeman 

    18- NM Arie Schoenmaker 

    19- *WB Jordan Croft father son 

    20- GWS Clay Hall

    21- NM Will Green 

    22- NM Archer Reid 

    23- *Haw Will McCabe 

    24- Coll. Harry DeMattia

    25- ADEL Mitchell Edwards

    26- STK. Archie Roberts 

    27- *GCS Will Graham gcs academy gift

    28- Carl. Charlie Edwards 

    2nd round  With assumption that GCS picks now all gone. Slight update with WCE likely grabbing Zane Zakostelsky. 

    29- WCE Lance Collard

    30- GEE George Stevens 

    31- Carl Logan Morris 

    32- Rich. Luamon Luai

    33- BRIS Joel Freijah

    34- Ess. Tew Jiath

    35- Coll. Angus Hastie

    36- Freo. Koen Sanchez

    37- ESS. Billy Wilson

    38- WCE Zane Zakostelsky 

    39- Bris. Will Dawson 

    40- Stk. Cooper Simpson

    41- Rich.  Nathan Philactides

    42- MELB. Taylor Goad

    43- GWS. Harvey Johnston

    3rd round as clubs may start to “Pass” in picks ti save for rookie or preseason additions, or pickup some smokies or add in mature bodied state league players. Some roughies from here that could be drafted, rookied or miss out. Assumed Hawks and Bulldogs picks lost or pushed back due to added father son picks. I think Kynan Brown gets through and Dees can immediately add him as a rookie. 

    44- Syd. Ashton Moir

    45- NM Shaun Mannagh

    46- Freo  Aiden O’Driscoll

    47- BRIS. Jack Delean

    48- BRIS  Will Brown

    49- Haw. Tarkyn O’Leary 

    50- *GWS Harvey Thomas. academy 

    51-*Syd . Caiden Cleary. academy 

    52-  WB Kane McAuliffe

    53- NM Sam Clohesy

    54- WCE. Luke Lloyd 

    55-Haw. Ry Cantwell

    56- *BRIS. Patrick Snell. academy 

    57- GWS Phoenix Gothard

    58- Freo  Kade De La Rue

    59- ESS  Tyson Sruk

    60- Haw  Lachie Hosie

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    Great work @spirit of norm smith

    If I could add some names to the mix for potential 2nd round-rookie prospects.

    - Lachie Charleson

    - Kobe Shipp

    - Matt Carroll

    - Bodie Ryan

    - Will Lorenz

    - Will Patton

    - Vigo Visentini

    - Joe Fonti

    - Jack Callinan

    - Cam Nyko

    - Ben Hopkins

    - Mahmoud Taha

    And of course Kynan Brown.

     

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    Will Lorenz will be interesting player through the draft and rookie selections.  Was at the National draft combine so obviously is on the list of a few recruiters. I think he will probably get picked but probably might be the late 3rd round or rookie. Was looking for him to do more in the national championships. Good skills. 

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