2 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Can someone please elaborate - size, position, “plays like…”. 
Thanks

IMO JVR isn’t being allowed to coast - he certainly is on a learning curve but does contribute well beyond what shows on basic stats sheets. 
 

As an aside, is Jefferson long like something to look forward to in 2024?   IF he and JVR both develop together could we have a gun tall forward pairing?

Jefferson seems behind where JVR was the same time last year, expect he might take another year

Duursma seemed to play taller than I expected. Strong marks were impressive, but his brother has speed and run at ground level which I didn’t see as much as I hoped for. Based off this one performance (which isn’t enough) I’d rather draft Nate caddy to play the same hit up hff role. A wait and see for our draft hand. 

What a joke we didn't get fixtured against the Bullants this year

2 hours ago, Old Bear said:

Watching him closely last few weeks I think he’s going to be someone Special in the future

He has his own way of going about the game and continues to surprise each week as his confidence grows

I was sceptical of Jefferson early..no impact..he is showing consistent improvement and I think has a few extra badly needed kgs. Well done.

1 hour ago, Garbo said:

Jefferson seems behind where JVR was the same time last year, expect he might take another year

Yep - but only about 3-4 months where JVR was at the same stage. Depending on BBB and JVR we could see a Jeffo debut next year in the second half 

2 hours ago, KC from Casey said:

Final siren and a comfortable win for the Casey Demons 

CASEY DEMONS 3.6.24 8.9.57 11.13.79 13.17.95

COBURG 0.2.2 3.4.22 6.7.43 7.11.53

GOALS

CASEY DEMONS Jefferson Schache Spargo 2 Dunstan Edwards Grey Grundy Moniz-Wakefield Munro  Sestan

COBURG Clarke 2 Mason Podhajski Simpson Sturgess Weightman

BEST

CASEY DEMONS Dunstan Harmes Hibberd Moniz-Wakefield Edwards D Smith

COBURG Jepson Mason Nelson Podhajski Clarke Gentile

Statistics 

Jed Adams 3 kicks 3 handballs 6 disposals 3 marks 24 dream team points
Luke Dunstan 1 goal 1 behind 17 kicks 24 handballs 41 disposals 8 marks 5 tackles 141 dream team points
Zane Duursma 1 behind 6 kicks 4 handballs 10 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 42 dream team points
Tyler Edwards 1 goal 17 kicks 4 handballs 21 disposals 8 marks 1 tackle 94 dream team points
Kyah Farris-White 3 handballs 3 disposals 1 mark 1 tackle 6 hit outs 19 dream team points
Tom Freeman 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 4 marks 1 tackle 40 dream team points
George Grey 1 goal 5 kicks 6 handballs 11 disposals 4 marks 1 tackles 46 dream team points
Brodie Grundy 1 goal 3 behinds 7 kicks 5 handballs 12 disposals 4 marks 4 tackles 12 hit outs 72 dream team points
James Harmes 14 kicks 19 handballs 33 disposals 4 marks 4 tackles 105 dream team points
Michael Hibberd 20 kicks 10 handballs 30 disposals 9 marks 1 tackles 103 dream team points
Matt Jefferson 2 goals 3 behinds 8 kicks 1 handball 9 disposals 5 marks 1 tackle 61 dream team points
Andy Moniz-Wakefield 1 goal 1 behind 10 kicks 10 handballs 20 disposals 7 marks 6 tackles 99 dream team points 
Ned Moodie 7 kicks 3 handballs 10 disposals 4 marks 1 tackles 43 dream team points
James Munro 1 goal 11 kicks 11 handballs 22 disposals 6 marks 2 tackles 84 dream team points
Harvey Neocleous 5 kicks 2 handballs 7 disposals 4 marks 1 tackle 35 dream team points 
Josh Schache 2 goals 2 behinds 8 kicks 2 handballs 10 disposals 8 marks 3 tackles 2 hit outs 81 dream team points 
Oliver Sestan 1 goal 4 kicks 4 handballs 8 disposals 3 marks 35 dream team points
Deaykin Smith 13 kicks 8 handballs 21 disposals 6 marks 3 tackles 86 dream team points
Charlie Spargo 2 goals 13 kicks 6 handballs 19 disposals 5 marks 1 tackle 78 dream team points
Roan Steele 11 kicks 6 handballs 17 disposals 7 marks 1 tackle 68 dream team points
Ryan Valentine 3 kicks 2 handballs 5 disposals 2 marks 16 dream team points
Will Verrall 6 kicks 6 handballs 12 disposals 2 tackles 13 hit outs 50 dream team points
Mitch White 9 kicks 8 handballs 17 disposals 1 marks 5 tackles 67 dream team points

Thanks KC and all posters for comments on game, could have been a great win with a bit more accuracy in front of goal. Feel sorry for Dunstan and Schache, AFL can be a very lonely place when you are on the outer. AMW and Deakin Smith have definitely lifted their output over the last half dozen games and may be keeper’s, what are your thoughts on these two boys??

 

11 minutes ago, Dee-licious said:

Yep - but only about 3-4 months where JVR was at the same stage. Depending on BBB and JVR we could see a Jeffo debut next year in the second half 

Was Roo one of the group training with McVee's GF last preseason?

Couldnt watch the game today.

Honest opinions on Grundy as a forward?

Was it something that can potentially work at AFL level?

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

Couldnt watch the game today.

Honest opinions on Grundy as a forward?

Was it something that can potentially work at AFL level?

He did some good things. He could realistically have had 4 goals and then you rave about his game. His goal kicking was atrocious, which is ironic as it’s been quite good at AFL level. 
He got frustrated at times, but when you look at Jefferson you see a natural forward who just understands how to play that role. Grundy isn’t that. 
But can he help bring the ball to ground and compete up forward? I think he can. But a natural forward he ain’t. 

Just now, Jaded No More said:

He did some good things. He could realistically have had 4 goals and then you rave about his game. His goal kicking was atrocious, which is ironic as it’s been quite good at AFL level. 
He got frustrated at times, but when you look at Jefferson you see a natural forward who just understands how to play that role. Grundy isn’t that. 
But can he help bring the ball to ground and compete up forward? I think he can. But a natural forward he ain’t. 

Thanks mate.

For a bloke almost seven foot, four marks in the Magoo's isn't very good. Didn't watch it. Maybe he didn't play a full game. It's not a strong feature of his skillet. I do find his tap craft very good at he's good below his knees. Not sure if he will become a good fwd. He wasn't bad in the pre season games .

It wasn't a great performance by Casey from a skilled systems viewpoint.

Coburg tried hard

Wayward kicking probably cost Casey 4-5 goals

I can remember 2 very good chains of disposal but overall a bit slow and ponderous for my liking

17 hours ago, Big Col said:

I hate the way the VFL has been merged with the Reserves.

Tomorrow I get to watch the Demons Reserves (aka Casey) play a torpedo punt* from my home. But I'll feel like a goddamn traitor when my Coburg drinking buddies see me in red and blue. Any other week I support the Lions.

Coburg Lions are really struggling this year. It's hard to compete against AFL clubs and professional athletes. 

All Demon fans going to Coburg, please eat as many snags and chips as you can, and drink the Coburg Lager. Help keep the Lions viable. 

* I'm probably talking 5 x Malcolm Blight torps if I'm honest

Like you Big Col, I grew up a Burgers supporter and have fond memories. Fortunate to have been to 3 winning G/Fs 1979, 1988, 1989. Also went to the game against Brunswick when Jacko played, and drew a huge crowd. 

Totally agree with your sentiments. The AFL have killed, and continue to kill the old VFA clubs. Hope the Burgers survive.

38 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

He did some good things. He could realistically have had 4 goals and then you rave about his game. His goal kicking was atrocious, which is ironic as it’s been quite good at AFL level. 
He got frustrated at times, but when you look at Jefferson you see a natural forward who just understands how to play that role. Grundy isn’t that. 
But can he help bring the ball to ground and compete up forward? I think he can. But a natural forward he ain’t. 

I thought he was disappointing.

He wouldn’t get a senior game next week based on that.

Dropped marks, fumbled and kicked poorly.

Even in the ruck up forward he wasn’t great.

Obviously doing a bit of reprogramming.

6 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I thought he was disappointing.

He wouldn’t get a senior game next week based on that.

Dropped marks, fumbled and kicked poorly.

Even in the ruck up forward he wasn’t great.

Obviously doing a bit of reprogramming.

But if he kicks 4 goals and not 1.3 then it’s a different game. 
He is definitely not looking happy or confident. Not sure this whole thing has been a smart move by us. Time will tell. 

It was an odd game as it showed where he lacks in his game (remembering most of his game is outstanding AA level). Marking was poor. He could do the work to out muscle an opponent and then drop the mark. The kicking for goal wasn’t great. The sense of where the goals are. When and how to get separation. 
 

In saying that, he got about 6 good looks. On another day, he could have 5 and we’d be laughing. It’s not a bad move by the Dees and as long as Grundy keeps working, he is going to get rewards. He can do it. 

36 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Like you Big Col, I grew up a Burgers supporter and have fond memories. Fortunate to have been to 3 winning G/Fs 1979, 1988, 1989. Also went to the game against Brunswick when Jacko played, and drew a huge crowd. 

Totally agree with your sentiments. The AFL have killed, and continue to kill the old VFA clubs. Hope the Burgers survive.

Agree Mo, it's a sad state of affairs. It's like the VFL is the plaything of the AFL. With the stroke of a pen, they'll mess with the clubs to suit their ever-shifting priorities. It's offensive that clubs with proud histories can just go by the wayside or be tossed about in an ever-changing competition. I'm not sure I'd want to play for a VFL side (aside from an obvious lack of talent). You either get thumped every week while scrounging for loose change from the AFL or make up the numbers for an AFL reserve side. Not my idea of a pathway to AFL or a recipe for building a strong community-based club.

12 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

But if he kicks 4 goals and not 1.3 then it’s a different game. 
He is definitely not looking happy or confident. Not sure this whole thing has been a smart move by us. Time will tell. 

Yes if he kicked the 4 goals it would be a different situation.

Agree he looked really p-ssed .

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54 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

It's not a strong feature of his skillet.

I think his Skillet is a Le Creuset. They are expensive, but so good.

1 minute ago, The heart beats true said:

I think his Skillet is a Le Creuset. They are expensive, but so good.

Was going to edit but thought nah nobody will skillet me. And yet here we are. Doh.

5 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

Agree Mo, it's a sad state of affairs. It's like the VFL is the plaything of the AFL. With the stroke of a pen, they'll mess with the clubs to suit their ever-shifting priorities. It's offensive that clubs with proud histories can just go by the wayside or be tossed about in an ever-changing competition. I'm not sure I'd want to play for a VFL side (aside from an obvious lack of talent). You either get thumped every week while scrounging for loose change from the AFL or make up the numbers for an AFL reserve side. Not my idea of a pathway to AFL or a recipe for building a strong community-based club.

Off topic but Living in Nsw I get jealous every state of origin game  Was our state of origin very good and as passionate or a gimmick?

 

33 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Off topic but Living in Nsw I get jealous every state of origin game  Was our state of origin very good and as passionate or a gimmick?

 

For MFC supporters it was very real. Watching Flower and Lyon in front of big crowds playing with the best was a rare treat

Edited July 22, 20232 yr by Diamond_Jim

10 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Off topic but Living in Nsw I get jealous every state of origin game  Was our state of origin very good and as passionate or a gimmick?

 

It is a great idea. Until Oliver does a knee. 

3 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

For MFC supporters it was very real. Watching Flower and Lyons in front of big crowds playing with the best was a rare treat

League SoO is huge is here in Nsw. It's like three mini gfs. 

I can't remember ours being as big and wonder why it died out .

I did enjoy seeing Dees players in the side but it wasn't a parochial thing like Nsw and Qld.

Edited July 22, 20232 yr by leave it to deever