PREGAME: Rd 12 vs Carlton

[jnrmac 19,412]

Can we get rid of Adrian Anderson now and just pay up for the Carlton lawyer?

Seriously hes a genius

[beelzebub 22,586]

Words fail..

AFL is a bunch of [censored]

This is what we're dealing with.

Seriously losing interest in the game

Bunch of [censored]

[Redleg 38,195]

As a lawyer, if I do any more criminal matters, my clients will be dressed in Carlton jumpers, because then you clearly can’t be guilty.

Seriously, I said in another post that this guy simply makes it up.

Pin arms, don’t pin arms, injury, no injury, hit head, don’t hit head, sling, don’t sling, drive into ground, don’t drive into ground, duty of care, no duty of care, possibility of injury, reasonable player, no reasonable player, aggressive action, not aggressive action and tonight’s new reason, long hair of the victim makes it look worse than it is.

How can you not ridicule this system and the people running it.

Edited May 30, 2023 by Redleg

[Dee Viney Intervention 1,557]

[Bitter but optimistic 21,560]

The word "corrupt" is used a lot.

I don't believe the system is corrupt - It is just totally brocken.  [censored] is a far more appropriate description ... but I'm not allowed to use that word.

I'm not just talking reports and the MRO, it's also the umpiring and inconsistency in paying free kicks within games. I certainly no longer have a clue as to what's going on - I don't think I'm alone.

During the JVR stupidity, I quoted Jordan Lewis' comments on 360. 

I believe they are still the best summary of the current [censored] up in our game , so I'll restate them -

" The AFL is making up the rules as they go"

 

Edited May 30, 2023 by Bitter but optimistic
typo

[YearOfTheDees 3,123]

And now Rory Laird  got off as well just to keep the masses quite.

[beelzebub 22,586]

Ill be waiting for the revulsion in the media come the morning....

Itll be there ??? Yeah ??? 

Surely ??? 

This is where the club needs to call it out...someone has to....

Won't matter to us...we're marked.  But for christ sake have a go...  Put it out there... the non accredited press will pick it up... theyll love it.

Say nothing ...expect same.

AFL...beyond corrupt

 

[McQueen 17,864]

I hope Sydney appeal and asks for a comparison of Parker’s and the other two let-offs. 

[Dingo 849]

45 minutes ago, jules7 said:

First time in my entire life, I don’t want to go to the footy! The AFL, the big clubs, the corrupt system, the umpires etc. Rules for some and not others. It’s shameful, biased and dishonest. 

Feel exactly the same. I have a reserved seat .Seriously thinking of giving it the flick.And not rejoining the club.

[beelzebub 22,586]

22 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

The word "corrupt" is used a lot.

I don't believe the system is corrupt - It is just totally brocken.  [censored] is a far more appropriate description ... but I'm not allowed to use that word.

I'm not just talking reports and the MRO, it's also the umpiring and inconsistency in paying free kicks within games. I certainly no longer have a clue as to what's going on - I don't think I'm alone.

During the JVR stupidity, I quoted Jordan Lewis' comments on 360. 

I believe they are still the best summary of the current [censored] up in our game , so I'll restate them -

" The AFL is making up the rules as they go"

 

It's corrupt... you know it is. You're not stupid,you're reasoned. You understand things as they are.

What do you see ??

X ends in Y... if certain clubs.

Nonsensical citations result in Z if certain clubs.

Media... Zzzzzzzzzz

Sorry... Accredited media... ZZzzzzzzzz

This is all bought and sold. 

 

[fr_ap 2,193]

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Cripps, Hewitt and now Cerra.

Are we surprised?

Hewett is concussed is he not? Or has that changed? 

[Gawndy the Great 7,853]

How can you even put a spotlight on this? The media seem complicit as the 360 panel don’t seem to care that much. If it was me, I’d be confused AF and telling everyone as much as anyone would care to listen. 

How does the collective fan base hold the AFL to account?

[beelzebub 22,586]

We need Carlscum lawyers...

But it wouldn't matter.. the AFL is corrupt

[BigBadBustling 249]

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Cripps, Hewitt and now Cerra.

Are we surprised?

Don't forget the Newman debacle

[Bitter but optimistic 21,560]

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

It's corrupt... you know it is. You're not stupid,you're reasoned. You understand things as they are.

What do you see ??

X ends in Y... if certain clubs.

Nonsensical citations result in Z if certain clubs.

Media... Zzzzzzzzzz

Sorry... Accredited media... ZZzzzzzzzz

This is all bought and sold. 

 

I think our difference is semantics bb.

I don't believe the AFL is "corrupt" in the sense that Gleeson receives a paper bag for a particular finding, or that umpires get a bonus for awarding free kicks to influence an outcome.

However, I will agree that certain outcomes, or the sometime  success of one team over another, will suit the AFL's profit making agenda better than others.

Perhaps "unscrupulous" or maybe "amoral" would better suit us both ?

In my view though, my original descriptor of [censored] up is most apposite.

 

Edited May 30, 2023 by Bitter but optimistic
typo

[Wodjathefirst 2,442]

12 minutes ago, Dingo said:

Feel exactly the same. I have a reserved seat .Seriously thinking of giving it the flick.And not rejoining the club.

Thinking about things you cannot realistically change will just do your head in. The trick is to think of something else.  
Did you know that since Carlscum’s inception in 1897 that we have never beaten them in a Friday night game? (I sourced this from what another poster put on another thread).

So…… be angry, rock up the the G, make some noise and see the boys rectify this embarrassing record.  It will make you feel better. GO DEES! (And I don’t want to be outnumbered by their fans!)

[BigBadBustling 249]

22 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I hope Sydney appeal and asks for a comparison of Parker’s and the other two let-offs. 

Didn't the AFL change the rules so you can't compare different incidents at the appeals tribunal? They want to make it appear to be a law court, but take out the opportunity of precedence.

The AFL are just absolute pretenders, and Gil is top dog.

[Lord Travis 10,298]

Just now, BigBadBustling said:

Didn't the AFL change the rules so you can't compare different incidents at the appeals tribunal? They want to make it appear to be a law court, but take out the opportunity of precedence.

The AFL are just absolute pretenders, and Gil is top dog.

Yes. That’s why they’re all just litigation rubbish arguing over specific words instead. It’s pathetic.

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,019]

If we are banking on Cerra being suspended for this game, we are nowhere near contending this year. Let’s just get it done.

 

that said, the inconsistency from the Tribunal is appalling 

[Redleg 38,195]

1 hour ago, fr_ap said:

Hewett is concussed is he not? Or has that changed? 

Yes, but I was referring to him getting off at the Tribunal, because he was charged with striking with the wrong forearm, even though they can amend, they let him off a couple of weeks ago.

[Redleg 38,195]

55 minutes ago, BigBadBustling said:

Don't forget the Newman debacle

That's what I said.

[beelzebub 22,586]

58 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I think our difference is semantics bb.

I don't believe the AFL is "corrupt" in the sense that Gleeson receives a paper bag for a particular finding, or that umpires get a bonus for awarding free kicks to influence an outcome.

However, I will agree that certain outcomes, or the sometime  success of one team over another, will suit the AFL's profit making agenda better than others.

Perhaps "unscrupulous" or maybe "amoral" would better suit us both ?

In my view though, my original descriptor of [censored] up is most apposite.

 

Nupp

They are what they are and that is corrupt

.

Maybe life is softer in Romsey 

[Redleg 38,195]

1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I think our difference is semantics bb.

I don't believe the AFL is "corrupt" in the sense that Gleeson receives a paper bag for a particular finding, or that umpires get a bonus for awarding free kicks to influence an outcome.

However, I will agree that certain outcomes, or the sometime  success of one team over another, will suit the AFL's profit making agenda better than others.

Perhaps "unscrupulous" or maybe "amoral" would better suit us both ?

In my view though, my original descriptor of [censored] up is most apposite.

 

I am 71, have loved the game and especially the MFC, since I was about 5 and I am now at the stage, where I only want to go to games, to be with my kids and grandkids.

I detest what I see happening to the game, which is run imo purely for money.

People are ripped off at every turn by the AFL.  AFL members are forced to pay $10.00 on top of membership for a seat at the G, for many games, instead of just being allowed to walk up.

The fixturing is completely unfair and of its own, makes the whole competition a compromised sport.

The umpiring is inconsistent.

The MRO and Tribunal are a joke.

The media because of accreditation are sycophants, too scared to report honestly.

Everything is a deal, or fixed by a deal.

Players now are unsure how to play the game and as an example, against Freo, I watched Melbourne players actually hesitate before going for the ball or tackling.

Games being played on school nights, so families are denied the ability of attending.

Blasting music so loud you can’t talk to people next to you.

Excessive Politicising of the game.

My love of the game has been severely diminished by its administrators, who couldn't run a BBQ without giving everyone food poisoning.

I detest the direction of the game, that these people have taken it in and I am not referring to efforts to make it safer.

Yes they have improved the viewing facilities, with some new grounds and refurbishments, but they have imo achieved little else.

At least I have my memories of hard, tough,skillful footy, umpired reasonably, with penalties at Tribunals that were pretty consistent and people loving the game and actually living for it.

Edited May 30, 2023 by Redleg

[titan_uranus 22,922]

The Laird one is worse than the Cerra one.

Cerra didn't pin Hickey's arms. It's not as bad as the other ones we've seen this year.

How Laird got off is beyond me. Just ridiculous.

[beelzebub 22,586]

3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I am 71, have loved the game and especially the MFC, since I was about 5 and I am now at the stage, where I only want to go to games, to be with my kids and grandkids.

I detest what I see happening to the game, which is run imo purely for money.

People are ripped off at every turn by the AFL.  AFL members are forced to pay $10.00 on top of membership to go to the G forced to buy a seat, for many games instead of just being allowed to walk up.

The fixturing is completely unfair and of its own, makes the whole competition a compromised sport.

The umpiring is inconsistent.

The MRO and Tribunal are a joke.

The media because of accreditation are sycophants, too scared to report honestly.

Everything is a deal, or fixed by a deal.

Players now are unsure how to play the game and as an example, against Freo, I watched Melbourne players actually hesitate before going for the ball and tackling.

My love of the game has been severely diminished by its administrators, who couldn't run a BBQ without giving everyone food poisoning.

I detest the direction of the game, that these people have taken it in and I am not referring to efforts to make it safer.

Yes they have improved the viewing facilities, with some new grounds and refurbishments, but they have imo achieved little else.

At least I have my memories of hard, tough,skillful footy, umpired reasonably, with penalties at Tribunals that were pretty consistent and people loving the game and actually living for it.

Yep...just yep 🥴😪