On 27/05/2023 at 10:31, Deemania since 56 said:

Hate to say it but that is the circumstance under which we are instructed to play, as you describe.

It's a flawed plan when you don't have a forward that can take a contested mark or crumbers that can capitalise.

Maybe Goodwin realises that our outside mids (Langdon, ANB, etc) don't have the skill to pass a ball to a bloke on the lead?

  On 27/05/2023 at 06:50, DubDee said:

I think we might just be an average team. top 8 but not much more

Fwd line is non existent 

general team connection just not there 

Yep that what l said last week not top 4.    Please beat carltank

  On 27/05/2023 at 10:26, demon3165 said:

What, I better sit down and have a drink, I promise I won't tell anyone you agree with me.....

Deal. 

  On 27/05/2023 at 10:22, DeeZone said:

So did Lever. Well my day didn’t go so well, the drive in was pleasant and the pie was hot But Jacko turned up to play possibly his best game on the G Freo made the most of their opportunities and racked up a lot of uncontested possessions in our forward line which we seemed ok with as they did it whenever we looked a bit lively. Although one of our best Max is right off his game at present. Lever is being exposed down back by us not playing the third tall. We continued to bomb the ball into the forward 50 with total oblivion and managed a miserable 10.12 and three out on the full. Where has our accuracy gone?? The Dockers had a game plan that they stuck to by playing wide and maintaining possession at times we seemed quite clueless. It was a quiet drive home football wise.😪😢

You summed it well l went. Quiet drive home. 
 

 

 

  On 27/05/2023 at 10:30, Redleg said:

Well as bad as some say we are, would you agree that if we kicked straight we would have won.

That is what in many respects makes it so infuriating.

Yeah I'd say there's a 5 out of 7 chance  I'd agree with that.

I can’t believe I’ve seen a few mentions of “loading”. That was the biggest myth last year and it’s a “head-in-the-sand” mentality. 

We’re not going to win the flag this year and we’ll be lucky to win one final. 

It honestly amazes me how a premiership can carry a reputation for much longer than what a team deserves. We’re a middle of the road side this year but media experts just can’t seem to finally say it. On the flip side, Port are not a “team on the rise” as they made consecutive prelims in 20-21, and neither are the Dogs who made a GF in ‘21, they both just had a down year in ‘22.

Not sure of the stats but seemed like we were denigned scores from turnover today.

Didn't find too much open fwd line entries. 

At least we changed our kick in strategy today..... that's something.

The really poor form of our tall forward's this year is one of the main reasons we are struggling. We were forced to move petty forward. Then he gets injured playing forward. That move has made our defence look flimsy. Lever can't intercept because he has to take a man. May is trying hard but he needs help. We need a key back to come in and help them. Tommo or Turner. Clearance work needs to be more than boot it forward and hope for the best.

We seem a very unhappy team atm. Lots of guys yelling at each other. The team have looked flat and heavy legged in the last 2 games.

If the Suns go on and win we’ll stay top 4 and keep pretending we’re one of the big boys. Fact is the big boys don’t like us and will kick us out soon enough. We can then go back and play with the middle of the road chaps. 

With the excess of medium defenders, wld love them to trial Bowie at half fwd to see if we can use his foot skills / decision making. 

All the other small fwds have really dropped off in form the last month or so. 

Chin back to Casey. Kossie and Spargs on thin ice. 

  On 27/05/2023 at 11:06, Jack Vineys Anger Manager said:

At least we changed our kick in strategy today..... that's something.

The really poor form of our tall forward's this year is one of the main reasons we are struggling. We were forced to move petty forward. Then he gets injured playing forward. That move has made our defence look flimsy. Lever can't intercept because he has to take a man. May is trying hard but he needs help. We need a key back to come in and help them. Tommo or Turner. Clearance work needs to be more than boot it forward and hope for the best.

We seem a very unhappy team atm. Lots of guys yelling at each other. The team have looked flat and heavy legged in the last 2 games.

Actually our defence is pretty good still

  On 27/05/2023 at 06:49, McQueen said:

Bomb it in buts. She’ll be right. 🙄

We are the best bombing in side in the competition. Why aren't we winning?

Why can't JVR hold his marks against 3 opponents?

I give up for this season

Accoridng to the data on the tv, it was a high pressure game.  Freo have a very good defence and we breathe it many time.  But, simply they were more accurate than us in front of game.  Bad kicking for goal cost us the game. 

  On 27/05/2023 at 11:04, At the break of Gawn said:

I can’t believe I’ve seen a few mentions of “loading”. That was the biggest myth last year and it’s a “head-in-the-sand” mentality. 

We’re not going to win the flag this year and we’ll be lucky to win one final. 

It honestly amazes me how a premiership can carry a reputation for much longer than what a team deserves. We’re a middle of the road side this year but media experts just can’t seem to finally say it. On the flip side, Port are not a “team on the rise” as they made consecutive prelims in 20-21, and neither are the Dogs who made a GF in ‘21, they both just had a down year in ‘22.

Have you listened to the Demonland podcast with our fitness boss...?

  On 27/05/2023 at 11:12, darkhorse72 said:

Accoridng to the data on the tv, it was a high pressure game.  Freo have a very good defence and we breathe it many time.  But, simply they were more accurate than us in front of game.  Bad kicking for goal cost us the game. 

It felt like Freo were at 200 most of the game. Possibly dropped off in the third and early in the first, but otherwise, they brought the heat.

On LJ. Maybe Darcy going off was the best thing for him. Not for us but he got to show what he is made of. He took the responsibility. Maybe the WA newspaper will give him a break. 

You know what really sucks. We are losing and Essendon and Collingwood are winning. Yuck

  On 27/05/2023 at 10:45, A F said:

We clearly sat Toby down and said you'll be playing more. Not to mention he did play last year. He was also an NGA talent for us, so we developed him from a young age. 

Look at Chandler, he stuck fat and is now getting regular games.

We don't know exactly what went on behind closed doors, but I'd be disappointed if I were the club.

Understand he was a NGA product. Not so sure about the clearly told that he would get more game time though. If so as a Victorian boy would you rather play on the MCG every 2nd week or in front of 5000 people at Blacktown. I am disappointed he left as I am sure the club is…. Still can’t blame him for wanting more game time. 

  On 27/05/2023 at 11:22, Dee Viney Intervention said:

Understand he was a NGA product. Not so sure about the clearly told that he would get more game time though. If so as a Victorian boy would you rather play on the MCG every 2nd week or in front of 5000 people at Blacktown. I am disappointed he left as I am sure the club is…. Still can’t blame him for wanting more game time. 

Bedford isn’t the answer

It doesn’t get any softer than this. 
 

Max Gawn needs to take a good hard look at himself. 
 

I’ve seen stronger leadership from a Mark Latham campaign.

  On 27/05/2023 at 08:06, layzie said:

Little harsh Titan and I do resent being told that all my posts attack other Demonlanders. I've seen and been on the receiving end of much worse attacks from yourself to be honest. 

I'm not attacking anyone personally and am simply questioning some pretty useless statistics that are brought up lately to make people feel better about a team that all of a sudden can't score. 

As you said there is plenty to discuss though and am happy to do that.

I have no idea what you’re talking about in terms of me attacking you. But that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Let me know via DM perhaps. 

My point remains though. You’re entitled to be upset with the game and the season to date. But you posted a number of times in a way which denigrates those of us who chose during the week to look at the positives and what we could work with - which, at 7-3, is hardly an unreasonable thing to have done.

  On 27/05/2023 at 11:17, A F said:

Have you listened to the Demonland podcast with our fitness boss...?

I listened to Binman talk about it every week last year saying we were primed for finals and then I watched us go out in straight sets.

  On 27/05/2023 at 11:06, Winter Dan said:

Not sure of the stats but seemed like we were denigned scores from turnover today.

Didn't find too much open fwd line entries. 

Sourced from AFL.com, We only scored 2.5 (17) from defensive half scoring chains, despite being ranked No.1 in the comp (averaging 40). In other words, Freo went to work on a ball movement.

  On 27/05/2023 at 11:18, A F said:

It felt like Freo were at 200 most of the game. Possibly dropped off in the third and early in the first, but otherwise, they brought the heat.

If true, why is this? Why do our opponents regularly bring their best pressure against us? 

Arguing that “they know pressure is our weakness” is silly because pressure is every side’s weakness. Sides would bring elite pressure all 23 weeks if they could. But for most, they can’t. 

But why us? Do we invite it somehow? Does the stat go up because we fumble and they get another point for a repeat tackle or something? Is it up because ours is down? (I don’t think it’s this because our pressure was high last week v Port). Do they just view us as a massive threat and gee themselves up for us - the whole “hunter vs hunted” mentality? Is it just plain bad luck?

That game reminded me a fair bit of the GWS game in 2021 that we lost at the G.

Overcast day, indigenous jumper, expected to win, conceded a 3 goal lead in the 3rd qtr, kept coming back but they always had the answers.

Only difference is Freo were extremely accurate and that’s what won them the game.

I think Goodwin hinted that we won the game on expected scores.

Mac Andrew is trying for a world record for the number of his kicks being smothered.

Rowell is a freak.