Having watched this multiple times he deserved a week.

He stepped over the ball and made no effort to contest.

If Lachie had actually tried to get his hands to the ball he might have had a case.

 

9 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Once again the AFL gets away with screwing our club with their total BS. 
I really hate what the AFL has done to our game. 

It is hard not to be paranoid and have a victim mentality when there is such blatant unexplained inconsistency in MRO decisions. We have had 5 penalties in last 3 rounds. Any other club near that?

I hope we are taking this up with head office.

Edited May 24, 20231 yr by Redleg

6 minutes ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

Having watched this multiple times he deserved a week.

He stepped over the ball and made no effort to contest.

If Lachie had actually tried to get his hands to the ball he might have had a case.

 

Then let’s say he deserved a week. I could live with that.

How do we then explain worse incidents and even injuries being caused, being let off?

Listening to Goody's presser it reeks of a coach who was spoken to behind closed doors by the AFL to 'tow the company line'. He made no sense at all regards to saying we are learning what is allowed. Not having a go at Goody because we all know the Peoples Republic of the AFL is hard to go against.

13 minutes ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

Having watched this multiple times he deserved a week.

He stepped over the ball and made no effort to contest.

If Lachie had actually tried to get his hands to the ball he might have had a case.

 

If he had tried as you suggest in all likelihood he WOULD  have caused injury. 

He would not had slowed/stopped..  not turned nor braced but risky greater injury to both himself and the other nong.

Hunter did the right thing. The AFL havent

2 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Listening to Goody's presser it reeks of a coach who was spoken to behind closed doors by the AFL to 'tow the company line'. He made no sense at all regards to saying we are learning what is allowed. Not having a go at Goody because we all know the Peoples Republic of the AFL is hard to go against.

Actually you can tell Goody's different looks as to whether he is just so so or not...

20 minutes ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

Having watched this multiple times he deserved a week.

He stepped over the ball and made no effort to contest.

If Lachie had actually tried to get his hands to the ball he might have had a case.

 

Yep, dived straight into or onto Rozee who was also trying to get his hands on the ball. Have you ever played footy? Because if you had, you'd not make such a preposterous statement. For the record, I doubt Gleeson has played footy, other wise he would not have suggested to Hunter that he simply should have stepped aside ...

Can't wait to have one of our key players suspended before finals for a football action.

I don't have a problem with Hunter being suspended, I have a problem with the AFL picking and choosing which players to rub out. Ie Daicos this week. I don't want to see him rubbed out but it is the AFL who said THE AFL will introduce legislation immediately to give the Match Review Panel the power to suspend players for stomach and jumper punches. the new rules would see such incidents graded at a higher impact level.   So it's simple suspend everybody or suspend nobody. Disappointing to see Riewoldt and Howe "expect it from Howe" suggest Hunter deserved to be rubbed out last night. 

58 minutes ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

Having watched this multiple times he deserved a week.

He stepped over the ball and made no effort to contest.

If Lachie had actually tried to get his hands to the ball he might have had a case.

 

which is both correct and perfect method to pick up a ground ball and protect yourself

44 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Listening to Goody's presser it reeks of a coach who was spoken to behind closed doors by the AFL to 'tow the company line'. He made no sense at all regards to saying we are learning what is allowed. Not having a go at Goody because we all know the Peoples Republic of the AFL is hard to go against.

Probably a bit of conspiracy about this IMV. Assuming the convo went something like , ‘appeal and win this one, we’ll come after your boys harder and harder. Roll over, know your place and we’ll resume normal duties’.

42 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Can't wait to have one of our key players suspended before finals for a football action.

You just know all this is leading to that. 

https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/NNNRS7287758366?selected=NNNRS2457598670

anyone who thinks Hunter went with the incorrect technique or had another option ie arms out, head first needs to listen to this from Harford.

Nails it

 

17 minutes ago, BangBnagBang said:

https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/NNNRS7287758366?selected=NNNRS2457598670

anyone who thinks Hunter went with the incorrect technique or had another option ie arms out, head first needs to listen to this from Harford.

Nails it

 

Bravo BigShorts. Should be compulsory listening at all levels in the AFL. 

Unless things change there's gonna be a serious, serious injury. Players are being rewarded for placing themselves at risk. 

The ruling by Gleeson just put a player closer to permanently losing the use of his arms and legs. 

It's just a matter of time 

 

Diving head first into another player should be,

1 Reportable - one week suspension 

2 Free kick to the player struck with the head

3 Waiving of rights to sue the AFL for subsequent problems regarding concussion.

If we really want to reduce head trauma ban ducking and diving in head first.

1 hour ago, BangBnagBang said:

https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/NNNRS7287758366?selected=NNNRS2457598670

anyone who thinks Hunter went with the incorrect technique or had another option ie arms out, head first needs to listen to this from Harford.

Nails it

 

This is the most accurate thing I've heard about these incidents. Also bringing up the 'eyes on the ball' thing being garbage is also 100% correct. If players aren't checking where others are around them that is more reckless and has a greater chance to cause injury.

2 hours ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

Having watched this multiple times he deserved a week.

He stepped over the ball and made no effort to contest.

If Lachie had actually tried to get his hands to the ball he might have had a case.

 

There's plausability in that.  However, what I can't stomach is the fact Gleeson did not allow the club to submit evidence.  On what grounds? That in itself is worth an appeal due to incorrect tribunal procedure.  Worked for Cripps - he wasn't cleared because he was innocent, he was cleared because of improper practice by the tribunal.

1 minute ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

This is the most accurate thing I've heard about these incidents. Also bringing up the 'eyes on the ball' thing being garbage is also 100% correct. If players aren't checking where others are around them that is more reckless and has a greater chance to cause injury.

The ruling makes no sense. 
1. Should have kept eyes on the ball
2. Should have realised the opponent was coming in at speed head first. (without taking his eyes off the ball?)
 

The stepping left suggestion reminds me of the pirouetting action they said Viney should have done all those years ago. 

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

I hope we are taking this up with head office.

Do you mean the AFL? You’re not allowed to criticise or question anything,  and if you do, they’ll go on the ‘please explain’ then fine dance. And as you wrote earlier, the journos, who should be able to question and criticise with impunity, are under their control. If the AFL were a national or state ‘government’ (and of course they are in microcosm), that’s plainly a dictatorship.  What I don’t get is why there isn’t more noise about it. 

7 minutes ago, Brownie said:

The ruling makes no sense. 
1. Should have kept eyes on the ball
2. Should have realised the opponent was coming in at speed head first. (without taking his eyes off the ball?)
 

I think it means as footballers, they're meant to have multiple sets of eyes to enable 360 degree vision.

The AFL is using teams like ours and lesser known players to support their defense in future suits from ex-players about head injuries.  What they seem to have overlooked is that in those future court cases the ex-players will be able to bring in videos of similar and worse incidents involving some clubs and star players that were overlooked (and also explain why those videos were not allowed to be used by the likes of Hunter).  Won't sit well with a jury.

Edited May 24, 20231 yr by sue

57 minutes ago, Webber said:

Do you mean the AFL? You’re not allowed to criticise or question anything,  and if you do, they’ll go on the ‘please explain’ then fine dance. And as you wrote earlier, the journos, who should be able to question and criticise with impunity, are under their control. If the AFL were a national or state ‘government’ (and of course they are in microcosm), that’s plainly a dictatorship.  What I don’t get is why there isn’t more noise about it. 

You can question head office, as long as it isn’t done publicly.

3 hours ago, Monbon said:

Yep, dived straight into or onto Rozee who was also trying to get his hands on the ball. Have you ever played footy? Because if you had, you'd not make such a preposterous statement. For the record, I doubt Gleeson has played footy, other wise he would not have suggested to Hunter that he simply should have stepped aside ...

Yes i have played football.

Stepping over the footy and then choosing to bump you take that chance. This year the head is a no go zone..

Had he went for the ball at any stage i think he has a case, but that was not the case!

It was an afterthought to grab the ball after he flushed him.

Take the week and move on.

3 hours ago, BangBnagBang said:

which is both correct and perfect method to pick up a ground ball and protect yourself

Absolutely! His technique is almost perfect....Much better than Rozee's, which certainly contributed to him getting hurt.

If you step over the ball though then hit someone without actually going for the ball...You are rolling the dice.

Must have watched it about 50 times now and i still don't think he actually goes for the ball at any stage...he knew where the ball and Rozee was, he stepped over the ball turns his hips for impact then the ball drops at his feet. 

Sure he did a lot right to try and win that contest, but he did enough wrong to earn a week. 

You gotta go for the ball.