Collingwood forward Ash Johnson

[Sydee 4,426]

OOC in 2024 and apparently a few clubs interested in him.

I hope we are one of them - really agile, great leap, excellent set of hands and a decent kick.

Every game I've seen him play been impressed by what he brings. 

[Redleg 40,910]

41 minutes ago, Sydee said:

OOC in 2024 and apparently a few clubs interested in him.

I hope we are one of them - really agile, great leap, excellent set of hands and a decent kick.

Every game I've seen him play been impressed by what he brings. 

They will not let him leave.

Just goes to show that these older guys are out there, you just have to find them.

 

[Bitter but optimistic 22,239]

Yeah, he's a good prospect but I reckon the filth will want to hang on to him

[Demon Jack 6,909]

Stickiest hands I've seen for a while from a mid-sized forward. 

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,734]

7 minutes ago, Redleg said:

They will not let him leave.

Just goes to show that these older guys are out there, you just have to find them.

 

100%. Sometimes it makes you wonder why teams draft young project players in the 40s and 50s when there's mature guys like this who can come in and make an immediate impact.

[Willmoy1947 4,085]

Bath water job...

[dazzledavey36 54,899]

Still have PTSD when he gave Petty a bath last year and kicked 4.

Everytime I have watched him play he seems to play well. He did come dead last in their time trial over thr off season but his talent and scope for improvement is high.

I'm a fan.

[dazzledavey36 54,899]

2 minutes ago, Action Jackson said:

100%. Sometimes it makes you wonder why teams draft young project players in the 40s and 50s when there's mature guys like this who can come in and make an immediate impact.

I've been big on this for a while AJ.

Seen so many talented bush league footballers running around who have either slipped through the under 18's system and been lost to the wilderness or clubs are more reluctant to give basketball athletes who have played 5 minutes of footy in their life more opportunities and better pathways.

This is why I have a incredibly soft spot for someone like Ollie Seston. Plays GV football and a few school games after being cut from the elite junior pathway and it takes someone like Jason Taylor to give him a crack knowing that he may have been too good to pass up had he slipped through.

Has now started his career off well at VFL and so far looks a talent and just an all round natural footballer. A lot of water to go under the bridge still but has the tricks that to potentially play AFL if not later this year but next.

[Sydee 4,426]

48 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Yeah, he's a good prospect but I reckon the filth will want to hang on to him

No doubt they will but I'd still hope we are in his ear.

Think we wanted to keep LJ too, but we all know what happened there - and yes, I know there were different factors at play with LJ.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

I was stunned when he towelled us up last year thinking where did this bloke come from - to later realise he was a maturity aged recruit was more unbelievable.

The kids that make the draft these days are incredibly driven and it’s not surprising that some talent slips through as the maturity , professionalism may not be there. Think about how close Oliver was to missing out and how he’s turned out …

Theres plenty out there in the feeder and suburban leagues.

[layzie 33,796]

Can really take a nice mark. Gotta love stories like these.

[Demonstone 22,511]

1 hour ago, Willmoy1947 said:

Bath water job...

What does that mean?  

[Willmoy1947 4,085]

Just now, Demonstone said:

What does that mean?  

I think he is a little aware of his own presence. My OP.

[DeeSpencer 25,687]

With Cox, Elliott and Mihocek the wrong side of 30 and McStay not on huge money I doubt the Pies will be short of tall forward dollars to keep Johnson. The only question would be if he gets dropped from the 22 and cracks it or if they’re very confident in landing Ben King or another big name.

I’m also not convinced he’s the right guy for us. The plan will be to get Jefferson up and going fairly quickly if things work well, hopefully best 22 alongside Fritsch and JVR in 2025. That’s a fair line up of mobile tall options.

The gap in our list is for a genuine tall, possibly who can ruck to take over from Gawn and Ben Brown. Unless Schache suddenly reignites his career or Vitzy becomes a guy. 

[Redleg 40,910]

38 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

With Cox, Elliott and Mihocek the wrong side of 30 and McStay not on huge money I doubt the Pies will be short of tall forward dollars to keep Johnson. The only question would be if he gets dropped from the 22 and cracks it or if they’re very confident in landing Ben King or another big name.

I’m also not convinced he’s the right guy for us. The plan will be to get Jefferson up and going fairly quickly if things work well, hopefully best 22 alongside Fritsch and JVR in 2025. That’s a fair line up of mobile tall options.

The gap in our list is for a genuine tall, possibly who can ruck to take over from Gawn and Ben Brown. Unless Schache suddenly reignites his career or Vitzy becomes a guy. 

With BBB and Tom in their last season or two and with only JVR and the unproven Jefferson, we clearly need another key forward.

I think we will identify another in the next draft or trade period. 

Edited April 20, 2023 by Redleg

[Sydee 4,426]

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

With Cox, Elliott and Mihocek the wrong side of 30 and McStay not on huge money I doubt the Pies will be short of tall forward dollars to keep Johnson. The only question would be if he gets dropped from the 22 and cracks it or if they’re very confident in landing Ben King or another big name.

I’m also not convinced he’s the right guy for us. The plan will be to get Jefferson up and going fairly quickly if things work well, hopefully best 22 alongside Fritsch and JVR in 2025. That’s a fair line up of mobile tall options.

The gap in our list is for a genuine tall, possibly who can ruck to take over from Gawn and Ben Brown. Unless Schache suddenly reignites his career or Vitzy becomes a guy. 

Not sure what that means ?

I know Will Verrall hasn't got going yet but I still think he has plenty to offer in the role of tall who can ruck and play a bit forward. I'm hoping he can show some real promise in the second half of the year at Casey.

[DeeSpencer 25,687]

28 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Not sure what that means ?

I know Will Verrall hasn't got going yet but I still think he has plenty to offer in the role of tall who can ruck and play a bit forward. I'm hoping he can show some real promise in the second half of the year at Casey.

I’m hoping he’s not out for the entire year and they’ve got on top of these groin problems. The last tall we had with iffy groins was Petty who they put on ice for all of 2020. I like the talent, but at his size and having to ruck he’s probably 3-4 years away from us knowing much about him at all. Jefferson might be the same but with his skills and ability to kick a snag my hope would be it’s more 2-3.

[DubDee 25,858]

2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

With Cox, Elliott and Mihocek the wrong side of 30 and McStay not on huge money I doubt the Pies will be short of tall forward dollars to keep Johnson. The only question would be if he gets dropped from the 22 and cracks it or if they’re very confident in landing Ben King or another big 

if anyone can manage a salary cap it is the Pies!

they’ll sign him to a 7 year deal and trade him after 1 no doubt 

[DeeSpencer 25,687]

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

With BBB and Tom in their last season or two and with only JVR and the unproven Jefferson, we clearly need another key forward.

I think we will identify another in the next draft or trade period. 

If Johnson’s available and the price is right then maybe we go for him because I agree with need someone. I just think the better fit would be a bigger body

[DeeSpencer 25,687]

7 minutes ago, DubDee said:

if anyone can manage a salary cap it is the Pies!

they’ll sign him to a 7 year deal and trade him after 1 no doubt 

We should laugh at their desire to turnover their list and better allocate resources. It’s something we should learn from 

[Ted Lasso 19,514]

It's incredible to me that someone with so much Raw talent wasn't an early draft pick, but it really does show that even with the incredible work recruiters do, at times guys slip through the cracks and you can get an incredible pick up if you're at the right place, and the right time 

Even Bailey Fritsch is a good example of an elite player that somehow slipped much later than he really should have based on AFL output 

[DubDee 25,858]

20 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

We should laugh at their desire to turnover their list and better allocate resources. It’s something we should learn from 

you reckon we should learn from recruiting a gun mid in Treloar who that were after for years, and sign him on a long term deal. and shaft him with 4 years left?

wow

[DubDee 25,858]

22 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

We should laugh at their desire to turnover their list and better allocate resources. It’s something we should learn from 

meanwhile they are paying two players salaries who are at different clubs. teach me more Pies!

[DeeSpencer 25,687]

31 minutes ago, DubDee said:

you reckon we should learn from recruiting a gun mid in Treloar who that were after for years, and sign him on a long term deal. and shaft him with 4 years left?

wow

They got their cap space is a terrible way which led to backloading and over extending Treloar but the decision to move him and his dodgy hammies on has hardly hurt them.

Same with swallowing some dead cap money to get rid of Grundy and get a proper mature key forward in McStay with the space. That’s a great out come from being in a bad situation.

We’ve signed up a stack of players long term now and there’s every chance at least one of them will be a good candidate for opening up some cap space one day. We’ve even tried it with Tomlinson and Tommy Mc in recent years. 

[FlashInThePan 1,893]

23 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

They got their cap space is a terrible way which led to backloading and over extending Treloar but the decision to move him and his dodgy hammies on has hardly hurt them.

Same with swallowing some dead cap money to get rid of Grundy and get a proper mature key forward in McStay with the space. That’s a great out come from being in a bad situation.

We’ve signed up a stack of players long term now and there’s every chance at least one of them will be a good candidate for opening up some cap space one day. We’ve even tried it with Tomlinson and Tommy Mc in recent years. 

Seriously, your desire to post negative comments leads you to post some really stupid stuff sometimes. We have the leagues best ruckman coming toward the backend of a long term deal that has been great for him and the club. Possibly the 2 best midfielders in the league tied to us for another 6 years. Gus, the only other long term deal, is probably one of the most under rated utilities in the game and a damn handy inside midfielder when we need it.

 And these are the players you think we should be turning over to improve our list??? Wow, thank god you’re not managing our list!