POSTGAME: Rd 04 vs West Coast

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

37 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Note that the back of the padding lines up precisely with the back of the goal line… it was NOT a goal.

No mention of this in the rules.

3.3 GOAL POSTS AND BEHIND POSTS
3.3.1 Position
(a) Two posts, to be called goal posts, shall be a minimum height of six metres and a maximum height of 15 metres and be placed at each end of the Playing Surface at a distance of 6.4 metres apart.
(b) A further two posts, to be called behind posts, shall be a minimum height of three metres and a maximum height of 10 metres and be placed at a distance  of 6.4 metres on each side of the goal posts so that a straight line can be drawn on the ground to join each post.

3.3.2 Padding
A Controlling Body must ensure that padding is attached around each goal and behind post as follows:
(a) a minimum of 35 millimetres thick foam padding, covered in canvas or painted;
(b) a minimum height of 2.5 metres from the bottom of each goal and behind post;
(c) a suitable width to allow the padding to be fixed around each goal and behind post; and
(d) the padding must be securely attached around each goal and behind post.

 

[layzie 33,733]

Think Charlie Chalk really screwed up this one. 

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

14 minutes ago, layzie said:

Think Charlie Chalk really screwed up this one. 

The ball is definitely behind the goal posts 

[D4Life 2,436]

I know Kossie missed a few shots, but he looks so good running with the ball and disposing it to advantage, just terrific to watch him play!!

[rpfc 28,247]

55 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

There is footy IQ and there footy IQ so answer this, is he on the same level in that department of players, Judd, Cousins, Pendlebury, Martin, hell can go back to Greg Williams etc, no, his strength is see ball get ball and pass it on, simple football, when he tries to to do anything else it comes undone, I will take his strength of his ability to fit the sides need, what he did in late 21 and the second half was do what Oliver used to do get ball and dish it off now that Oliver works a lot outside now, he does not need to be the one to do that, again stick to your strength not your weakness.

You should follow your advice and avoid talking about Captain Jack. Who you previously have labelled a ‘rugby player.’

 

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

23 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Don't think I need to spell it out for you, again read I know you have read John and Betty.

No, it is YOU, who doesn’t actually understand what Jack Viney does. You don’t watch closely enough, that is obvious. 
 

John & Betty. Yes I believe i read those in 1969. I quickly progressed thankfully 

[daisycutter 29,600]

23 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

No mention of this in the rules.

3.3 GOAL POSTS AND BEHIND POSTS
3.3.1 Position
(a) Two posts, to be called goal posts, shall be a minimum height of six metres and a maximum height of 15 metres and be placed at each end of the Playing Surface at a distance of 6.4 metres apart.
(b) A further two posts, to be called behind posts, shall be a minimum height of three metres and a maximum height of 10 metres and be placed at a distance  of 6.4 metres on each side of the goal posts so that a straight line can be drawn on the ground to join each post.

3.3.2 Padding
A Controlling Body must ensure that padding is attached around each goal and behind post as follows:
(a) a minimum of 35 millimetres thick foam padding, covered in canvas or painted;
(b) a minimum height of 2.5 metres from the bottom of each goal and behind post;
(c) a suitable width to allow the padding to be fixed around each goal and behind post; and
(d) the padding must be securely attached around each goal and behind post.

 

yes, but it also doesn't define the "goal line" in any detail (padding or otherwise)

but it's the afl you know

[layzie 33,733]

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

No, it is YOU, who doesn’t actually understand what Jack Viney does. You don’t watch closely enough, that is obvious. 
 

John & Betty. Yes I believe i read those in 1969. I quickly progressed thankfully 

Absolutely loved Viney's game yesterday. 

[demon3165 2,697]

4 minutes ago, rpfc said:

You should follow your advice and avoid talking about Captain Jack. Who you previously have labelled a ‘rugby player.’

 

Yes that's right and why did I call him that?

[demon3165 2,697]

5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

No, it is YOU, who doesn’t actually understand what Jack Viney does. You don’t watch closely enough, that is obvious. 
 

John & Betty. Yes I believe i read those in 1969. I quickly progressed thankfully 

I understand it better than you mate, because I don't watch it with red and blue eyes.

[ManDee 7,124]

1 hour ago, hardtack said:

“I love the smell of propane in the morning!”

Sniffing the barbie again tackie?

[rpfc 28,247]

15 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Yes that's right and why did I call him that?

NFI

[Fork 'em 6,983]

6 hours ago, Redleg said:

Let it be recorded and it is, in the Welcome Trent Rivers thread, that I was probably the first on DL to be really excited about drafting him.

Well I compared him to James Hird 😉😀

[layzie 33,733]

5 hours ago, old dee said:

I finally made the move and got a Kayo subscription. Watched the game last night and 2 things were immediately apparent. One quality of the game commentators is a vast improvement on channel 7. And no ads while the game is underway. Oh the bliss of no Brian ! I have resisted for some time because I am firmly in the “ there is no substitute for going to the game “ however with an ever increase of games at night and those not on FTA I succumbed to Kayo. The upside is I can watch when and wherever I am ( last night on my IPad while away for Easter. ) the 21st century has caught up with me and not all of it is bad. P.S F1 is looking good from now.

I changed last week too OD. So much better and being able to watch shows on demand helps me a lot. 

[Kozzie4PM 765]

2 hours ago, demon3165 said:

Would not get carried away with a win against a completely undermanned side but you can only play against what is there, so,

I still stand by my statement that Viney has no football IQ and the first half showed that but in the second half he did what he did back in late 21 and through out the finals series see ball get ball and pass it off no thinking plays a lot better and does hurt sides when he does this.

Brayshaw, not sure what is going on there, seems to be either not happy he's playing H/B or confidence is down seems to be second guessing what he wants to do with the ball.

McVee, getting better and better, Salam might spend some time at Casey if he keeps improving ( adds that Hunt speed ).

Tmac, not much competition against him and the ground suited him, still backup for me.

Chandler, well here is a surprise on how he has come on, makes good decisions always thinking of the next move, good goal sense.

Kossie, I am one who believes his best position is in the Forward line, not sure he can handle the heat in the middle on a regular basis. 

JVR love the fact that he crashes the packs hard chases at full pace, but needs work on his marking, he need to keep his hands forward not bent backwards in trying to mark it causes to lack of strength in the hands, but still like him there.

Petty, bit at sea but the way they brought the ball in no wonder, when all your forwards fly at once you don't have much hope, the forward line still needs a lot of work, cannot fathom why when the ball is around the H/F line everyone stands still move for heavens sake open it up, learn to make holes, take your opponent out of the area.  Is it worth persevering only if they change the set up.

Grundy, played against well not their best, but the best part of it for me, he got great game time and fitness time will only get better.

If Hibbo is injured, and after watching Casey Disco would have to come in and would be a good replacement.

One thing I was happy about there was several times that 2-3 players held back on the backline so when the eagles the ball chipped around in the backline, players were there, not to give them a chance to move it on quickly.

I would love to see a change in set up in the forward line, instead of all lining up like ducks in a row take the H/F's further out, same with pockets creates a hole, can give you multiple aiming points, radical I know but we don't have a real power marking forwards.

The second half the Eagles stated to run out of steam and class but like some of there young ones.

 

We are the highest scoring team in the comp by a mile averaging 114.25 points per game. I think the forward line might be operating a little better than you think.

[layzie 33,733]

59 minutes ago, D4Life said:

I know Kossie missed a few shots, but he looks so good running with the ball and disposing it to advantage, just terrific to watch him play!!

He would have had 5 on another day 

[AzzKikA 2,371]

52 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Yes that's right and why did I call him that?

Cos you're a [censored]?

He makes mistakes yes we all see that, we all get frustrated by it just like you but to say he had no footy IQ or is a rugby player is downright disrespectful, this is our VC you're talking about but to you I guess that doesn't mean anything coz you know better huh.

Edited April 10, 2023 by AzzKikA

[layzie 33,733]

23 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Well I compared him to James Hird 😉😀

Hahaha. "I sleep in a racing car, do you??"

[AzzKikA 2,371]

2 minutes ago, layzie said:

Hahaha. "I sleep in a racing car, do you??"

 

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,777]

I hate it when opposition fans all boo when a player is having a set shot for goal. WCE are the worst, but all other supporters do it, including Melbourne( but not so badly)

But yesterday it had the reverse effect when JVR was having a set shot! The booing was like the “Roooooo” chant that Dees supporters use! Probably inspired him!

[demon3165 2,697]

26 minutes ago, AzzKikA said:

Cos you're a [censored]?

He makes mistakes yes we all see that, we all get frustrated by it just like you but to say he had no footy IQ or is a rugby player is downright disrespectful, this is our VC you're talking about but to you I guess that doesn't mean anything coz you know better huh.

Yes mate it does but thank you for your wonderful contribution.

[kev martin 9,665]

We are getting our inside 50's efficient, and great how we lock it in there.

Forwards are working up field and supporting the backs.

We are good at winning the crucial moments.

Great pressure, defence and tackling.

The core players know each other's game, allows them to connect, have confidence, play to strengths and to get out of trouble.

Our set shots are more accurate, thanks coaches.

We are breaking the lines with our running, hanballs, supportive play, and the 20/30 meter handballs.

Seems we are playing in front and getting to the ball first.

JVR's fitness looks fine.

Tmac getting to the right area without BBB there, creating one on one's with less pack formations and more space.

Hope they keep giving Petty some time up forward.

Loving our second halves, no fade outs or complacency so far.

We seem super fit, well done trainers.

Getting plenty of junk time/time on goals.

Oliver running end to end, super fit.

Unlike Collingwood, who say they are still building, we are there and can now focus on the finer aspects of the game.

Max in the coaches box with a pen, getting plenty of learnings, which can help his on field leadership qualities.

[kev martin 9,665]

2 hours ago, demon3165 said:

There is footy IQ and there footy IQ so answer this, is he on the same level in that department of players,

Yep Viney is. Comes from a family that is the fabric of AFL. All his life he must have eaten, slept and dreamed footy. He is the one that knows when the game is on the line, and I have seen him get us over the line and turn the momentum, from a very early age. 

 

2 hours ago, demon3165 said:

Judd, Cousins, Pendlebury, Martin,

These ones had extraordinary skill levels. Viney may over estimate his ability at times, but footy IQ, he has it in spades.

[binman 42,560]

5 hours ago, deanox said:

Unless it is miraculous, thats what I read into it too.

Almost like "it's minor but it has repeated instead of settled after first occurance, so our course of management/treatment will likely change, but until we review I can't confirm what that means".

Yep. 

And i cant recall if he said it in a different context, or in relation to hibbo, but i thought it was interesting Goody made a point of emphasising the dees have a 'squad mentalilty'.

I have heard pert talk about the thorough (standard) review of last season. A commitment to continuous quality improvement is sign of of a well functioning organisation.

The have made a number of changes on the back of the review  - and taking a squad mentality seems to be one of them.

I like it because in helps address the challenge of having so many players on the bubble of senior selection. Last season the team changed so little it would have super hard psychologically on players like Tomo, Bedford and Chandler. 

And hard too for any player, like Hunt in 2021, that is in the ones only to get injured or suspended and lose their spot. And not get it back.

A squad mentality should help all such players feel they are a reasonable shot at playing ones.

So, for example, take no risk with Hibbo and a player like Laurie, Dunstan, Tomo or even Howes comes into the frame for selection (not all like for like - but they can shuffle positions if needed to get say a Lauire in).

Or perhaps more likjley, JJ comes into the 22 and Melk is sub. 

Edited April 10, 2023 by binman

[Red and Bluebeard 2,083]

6 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Does anyone even know who the score reviewers are? They've never explained who it is making these decisions, are they actually umpires/officials? No one knows.

Having said that I think it was a point.

A few years ago, I was in a group which was shown around the facilities at Docklands where they do this. They had screens everywhere, as expected, and if I recall correctly, there were AFL officials (not umpires, but possibly retired ones) who did the judgement.