POSTGAME: Practice Match vs Richmond

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3 hours ago, Mickey said:

Judd McVee played on him a bit

Dusty got some stats but his overall effect on the game was low, unreliable and just that little bit 'slip-shod'. Against his normal and anticipated influence on games, he was 'well below par' in my mind and, was rather simply avoided by Dees' players.

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39 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Yes we did!!!

	PLAYED	WIN	LOSS	FOR	AGAINST	%	POINTS
MELBOURNE	2	2	0	226	117	193.16	8
BRISBANE	2	2	0	190	99	191.92	8
ADELAIDE	2	2	2	188	118	159.32	8
WESTERN BULLDOGS	1	1	0	143	85	168.24	4
GWS	1	1	0	122	77	158.44	4
GEELONG	2	1	1	183	144	127.08	4
FREMANTLE	2	1	1	158	138	114.49	4
ESSENDON	2	1	1	80	75	106.67	4
SYDNEY	2	1	1	151	153	98.69	4
COLLINGWOOD	2	1	1	180	184	97.83	4
ST. KILDA	2	1	1	113	137	82.48	4
CARLTON	2	1	1	138	171	80.70	4
RICHMOND	2	1	1	146	194	75.26	4
WEST COAST	2	1	1	136	187	72.73	4
GOLD COAST	2	0	2	75	80	93.75	0
PORT ADELAIDE	2	0	2	137	176	77.84	0
NORTH MELBOURNE	2	0	2	158	218	72.48	0
HAWTHORN	2	0	2	153	244	62.70	0

Damn. Adelaide are going to be tough this year. Played 2 games for 2 wins and 2 losses. ;)

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3 hours ago, Ollie fan said:

And I think we need to do a LOT of work on our leading patterns in the forward line - there were too many times when we got a great centre clearance tgat was crying out for a good forward lead but instead went nowhere. 

That is true - but I have that feeling that it will be more self-evident and be progressively addressed by the players themselves as the early rounds of the season get underway. Fritta's return will help address 50% of the opportunity problems in this regard.

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18 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Clydeaho still stinks to high heaven. Richmond supporters live locally and would rock up to Baghdad for a game of footy.

But they’ve finally added a second entrance to the fields so you can get in and out. Plus almost enough car parks given the only way to get there is to drive. I literally heard Richmond supporters bragging about drink driving which is always nice.

A stack of roadworks down Clyde road widening the road because they were too stupid or greedy to do that before they built all the housing.

Not nearly enough toilets, food or drink facilities and there wasn’t enough capacity on the hill for todays game either.

At least the usual gale force winds were replaced with sticky humidity. A nice change, especially when there’s next to no shade out there. 

And yet… 

So many people.

[picket fence 17,034]

3 hours ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

Great to see a strong win against good oppo. The Tap Brothers dominant. Our midfield and half back spread excellent and our speed of ball movement and execution frightening for this time of year. The only concerns for me were Brown (who should come out for Fritsch) and Harmes constant ability to turn the ball over after doing all the hard work to win it. Great to see McVee get the chance to take Dusty and Taj get a look in in the last  (and look up to the pace).

And of course the most important thing no injuries.

Could not have asked for much more from the hit out.

Brown for Fritch NOT IN A MONTH OF SUNDAYS but Fritta comes back .... but not for BBB

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2 hours ago, Demi Dee said:

Little things I loved perched on the fence today:

The confidence the players have in each other. 

Clarey working off half back on occasion 
Lachie Hunter- so wonderful to have two damaging and solid wings

Grawndy positioning on either side of the ground for the kick down the line. Had Richmond second guessing on numerous occasions 

Bowey. Nailed the little things and was creative. 
fluid , creative mid field rotations (thought ANB and Kozzie really added to this, as did Rivers)- Harmes let himself down with the turnovers  

second half forward structure had, at times, two talks deep and all smalls on the half forward line. 
 

BBB haircut, but think with the rucks floating forward and Fritsch to come in, the forward line might be better running a little smaller. JVR could also provide a different focus, will be interesting to see. 

I" say this again JVR might be  a future solution ,but right now is VERY VERY RAW

Give me BBB ANYTIME😁

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2 hours ago, monoccular said:

Is anyone else worried about Angus?   From where I was looking he appeared slow and not very involved. Maybe I just didn’t notice him. 

When the players are under increased pressure with the ball in their possession - and they have to move it on, positively to a teammate ASAP / immediately to avoid losing a possession no matter how brief it might have been - Angus is your man. Today, against Richmond, he read the tackles and the set-ups in such moments and nearly always, positioned himself to perfection - particularly in the second half - to achieve or gather the wanton pass/handball/tap and move it on for the team to better effect. Mr Fix-it.

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11 minutes ago, picket fence said:

I" say this again JVR might be  a future solution ,but right now is VERY VERY RAW

Give me BBB ANYTIME😁

Love BBB. Just making note of the forward setup I saw today in the second quarter and it had an exciting feel about it. BBB was there and helped create that feel, but with the rucks dropping in I felt the extra tall forward role could be well served by a more fluid player. No denying the benefits of the big man himself. Just opening the question on the delivery and conversion into our forward half and whether a new approach could provide us with a more effective outcome. Happy to discuss further, just an observation, not a dogmatic statement. 

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3 hours ago, Willmoy1947 said:

Checking his nuts.

he got a "tap" to the solar plexus from Baker

[Deemented Are Go! 3,677]

Just finished watching on replay. 
My main take away is that Kamdyn McIntosh should just shave his head. C’mon mate, you’re not fooling anyone. 

[kev martin 9,753]

Thought we did well when we didn't have ball. The Tiges got nailed multiple times because they couldn't find the outlet. 

Great pressure game, forcing turnovers and then rebounding. Many of the Tiges best couldn't get enough of the ball.

How about Gotchin putting the elbows into Harmes head, when he had him pinned on the ground. Stupid, unnecessary, poor self control, should get cited by the match review. 

Our spread was good, as was the field kicking, noticed some of our kick outs went to the right.

They were making good separation from their opponents, we are fit, fast and smart.

Thought Chandler and McVee have done enough to keep their spots. Hibbo is possibly depth, the same as Melky. 

BBB and TMac still need to find their straps. Hopefully on the big stage. Less spear passes into the forwards today, hope they lift the eyes and find those short kicks. 

Tracc dominant, loved his on the run goal, in the face of Dusty. Wait till Clarry tries (thought he was half intensity), he will kill it. We seemed to do alright at the stoppages. 

Brody taking marks forward, May taking them in the backline, beautiful.

Wings are taken care of.

So many rotating through the on ball mids, I wonder if that will be how we go next time or the coaches were just trying things out. 

Back-line looked steady, though never really under pressure. Great ball movement off that line.

How about the way Kossie moves! Wow, get the ball in his hands MFC players.

 

Edited March 4, 2023 by kev martin

[whatwhat say what 22,658]

richmond got frustrated and got dirty

[Dr. Gonzo 24,131]

26 minutes ago, kev martin said:

How about Gotchin putting the elbows into Harmes head, when he had him pinned on the ground. Stupid, unnecessary, poor self control, should get cited by the match review.

Didn't Viney get suspended for that a year or two back?

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4 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

richmond got frustrated and got dirty

In a practice game 🤦

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6 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

In a practice game 🤦

Which makes it all the more pleasing… it means we were performing against a team that was 100% committed, as opposed to just going through the motions in a practice match.

[Demonland 71,265]

23 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Didn't Viney get suspended for that a year or two back?

Yeo did it and didn’t even get cited 

here is the Cotchin incident 

 

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6 minutes ago, Demonland said:

here is the Cotchin incident 

He hit Harmes twice in the head with his elbow.

Looks like Yeo's is into the neck area.

Edited March 4, 2023 by kev martin

[JJR 681]

Do the casuals on here still think Grundy was a bad acquisition? 🤪

[kev martin 9,753]

Spargo is playing good football! 

Edited March 4, 2023 by kev martin

[Demonland 71,265]

19 minutes ago, kev martin said:

He hit Harmes twice in the head with his elbow.

Looks like Yeo's is into the neck area.

Both are bad. The head was meant to be sacrosanct last year but the MRP turned a blind eye to “name” players. No name players of course are canon fodder for the MRP. 

Cotchin will get off scot-free

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4 minutes ago, JJR said:

Do the casuals on here still think Grundy was a bad acquisition? 🤪

He was the BBB of this weeks Post Game thread in last weeks Post Game thread. 

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5 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Didn't Viney get suspended for that a year or two back?

This action seems to be Cotchin's modus operandi in so many matches - certainly, many times against the Dees over the past few seasons. He is a strangler, attempting to damage the larynx and trachea of players with that forearm, elbow and full body weight driven vertically into the sensitive frontal neck area when a player is on the ground. Viney did get a reprimand for this action a while ago and learned his lesson - but Cochin never does. It is a seriously dangerous action poorly regulated by umpires from a number of exponents across the 'popular' clubs.

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4 hours ago, kev martin said:

Spargo is playing good football! 

His performances have risen and he is 'sought' by teammates for his vision, passing and innovative ball retention. Sparrow and Rivers are producing great contributions, as well. Both are now 'courageous' interceptors, 'beautiful' kicks and surprisingly adept distributors. ANB was impressive against the Tigers, producing nifty intercepts and multiple area tackles to interrupt the flow of ball-handling and distribution amongst the Tigers' best efforts. His ground coverage was extensive, rapid and highly valuable.

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6 hours ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Just finished watching on replay. 
My main take away is that Kamdyn McIntosh should just shave his head. C’mon mate, you’re not fooling anyone. 

Yes that jumped out at me too.

Surprised it wasn’t on the commentary really. 

They’re always missing things…

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8 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Haven’t seen the game but I’m loving what I’m reading in this thread. All sounding positive with Viney, Fritsch and Salem all still to work back into the side. 

Why?

Petty’s played 2 years in defence, and done very well at it. Why are so many so obsessed with Petty as a forward?

Van Rooyen’s trained all summer as a forward. What makes you recommend him as a defender option?

Gawn or Grundy will be forward 50-70% of game time. It looked fine yesterday because Gawn and Grundy dominated the air, but there will be times that we will not be so dominant and we will look too slow and lack defensive pressure. 

van Rooyen is a better ground level player may complement the Tap Brothers better. I’m just not convinced he’s got the game to be the 50 goal forward that we need in 2023. Our ball movement is going to be a lot more attacking this year because we have two true wingers, so whoever plays forward is going to get great supply. Petty is the only one I’m confident would kick 50+ goals and not be a defensive liability.

I would also add that key forwards often take a long time to become accretive players. Even some of the top liners like Hawkins and Kennedy took years to develop. Others like Neitz, TMac and Lynch, who started in defence, were much more productive early in their careers.