30 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

Is Jefferson considered a flop? I hadnt quite come to that. 

as much as Sparrow and Jordon were at the same stage 

give him one preseason at least i reckon

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

You come in with question marks on your competitiveness and put up a 0 touch game you’re now a dud pick until proven otherwise. I hope he can turn it around but the very early call is not good.

If you keep taking picks in the teens to build your list you run the risk of a string of misses. That’s how North ended up with such a gap in their list to begin with. The Durdin and Garners of the world. 

Look out, lads! Hot Takes over here thinks that early picks are better than later picks. Absolute edgelord.

10 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

You come in with question marks on your competitiveness and put up a 0 touch game you’re now a dud pick until proven otherwise. I hope he can turn it around but the very early call is not good.

If you keep taking picks in the teens to build your list you run the risk of a string of misses. That’s how North ended up with such a gap in their list to begin with. The Durdin and Garners of the world. 

With dud comments like that, you stay a dud commentator until proven otherwise. 🧐🤨🤔🤔

22 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

Look out, lads! Hot Takes over here thinks that early picks are better than later picks. Absolute edgelord.

Not at all the purpose of my post.

If you could comprehend I was saying that North’s crazy assistance package has harmed our ability to trade up. (As did their incompetence in having to trade JHF last year).

We have the picks and the desire to go up. Teams are willing to move back. Yet by all reports North will offer their freebies.

4 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Not at all the purpose of my post.

If you could comprehend I was saying that North’s crazy assistance package has harmed our ability to trade up. (As did their incompetence in having to trade JHF last year).

We have the picks and the desire to go up. Teams are willing to move back. Yet by all reports North will offer their freebies.

Were we incompetent for having to trade Jackson last year? Go home factor was the reason in both cases. And by your reckoning the AFL gifted us 2 first round picks. 

Your takes on North and GC are illogical.

13 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Were we incompetent for having to trade Jackson last year? Go home factor was the reason in both cases. And by your reckoning the AFL gifted us 2 first round picks. 

Your takes on North and GC are illogical.

Jackson was out of contract after 3 years. JHF was gone after 1 because North mismanaged everything about him then gave him away whilst contracted. Clarko didn’t even bother trying to help him stay.

We got priority picks under the old system and turned them in to a pile of nothing. Shout out to Trenners and Strauss, hope they are well. They weren’t of any use by 2014.

Under the new rules priority picks have been very hard to come by. We got none. Brisbane got one token one. St Kilda - the unlucky and awful mess in the early 10’s got none. Carlton got nothing more than a couple of state leaguers.

Gold Coast got a stupid amount, I was fine with them getting some to make up for their shocking list build, but the AFL gave them a truckload due to the AFL’s own and Suns ongoing incompetence.  

North at best deserved one last year as Brisbane did at the height of their issues. Somehow 1 morphed in to 4 despite North being far better placed now than 12 months ago. 

Edited October 10, 20231 yr by DeeSpencer

On 10/9/2023 at 3:32 PM, Wunders said:

My issue with a future first is if we don't get a key forward this year and say GC King is available, we won't have the 2x first rounders likely needed to land him. But club likely knows what it's doing (just like the "forward" thinking approach).

 

 

I have heard that WC might be after our pick 5.  

3 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

I have heard that WC might be after our pick 5.  

Presumably they think Curtain will be available there.

Would we be willing to trade it for their future first plus something, and use 13 and an early second to get 10 from GC or 7 from Geelong?

3 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Presumably they think Curtain will be available there.

Would we be willing to trade it for their future first plus something, and use 13 and an early second to get 10 from GC or 7 from Geelong?

Yep, that seems to be the case.  I think it would be a straight swap for their future 1st round.  In fairness that would more than likely be a top 3 pick.

Nth don’t rate Curtin and Dogs won’t take another tall.  

Edited October 10, 20231 yr by Demons11

1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

Yep, that seems to be the case.  I think it would be a straight swap for their future 1st round.  In fairness that would more than likely be a top 3 pick.

Nth don’t rate Curtin and Dogs won’t take another tall.  

5 becomes 6 or 7 with academy picks. It's still a bit of a gamble to assume WC are as bad next year as they were this year. Some more luck with injuries and 11 games at Optus...

2 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

I have heard that WC might be after our pick 5.  

6 for eagles future first and 22?

Trade our future first and significant change for pick 11. Go the draft with 11, 14, 22.

Hope we can get a truly special player in the top 5 with the Eagles pick next year?

Don’t love the idea, but there are some really high quality mids in next years draft.

Just now, DeeSpencer said:

6 for eagles future first and 22?

Trade our future first and significant change for pick 11. Go the draft with 11, 14, 22.

Hope we can get a truly special player in the top 5 with the Eagles pick next year?

Don’t love the idea, but there are some really high quality mids in next years draft.

I'd be going for Reid if they're interested in our 5. Upgrade 13 to say 7, offer 5 and 7 for 1.

3 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

If you keep taking picks in the teens to build your list you run the risk of a string of misses. That’s how North ended up with such a gap in their list to begin with. The Durdin and Garners of the world. 

 

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

6 for eagles future first and 22?

Trade our future first and significant change for pick 11. Go the draft with 11, 14, 22.

Hope we can get a truly special player in the top 5 with the Eagles pick next year?

Don’t love the idea, but there are some really high quality mids in next years draft.

Wait, what? Try to maintain a consistent strategy for at least half a day will ya!

Dodo asking for a 1st rd pick  for Zerk Thatcher is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. The bloke is a [censored] 

4 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

6 for eagles future first and 22?

Trade our future first and significant change for pick 11. Go the draft with 11, 14, 22.

Hope we can get a truly special player in the top 5 with the Eagles pick next year?

Don’t love the idea, but there are some really high quality mids in next years draft.

We are not getting that.  There is no chance of 22 on top of that.   WC Will be bottom 4 next year 

Just now, DeeSpencer said:

6 for eagles future first and 22?

Trade our future first and significant change for pick 11. Go the draft with 11, 14, 22.

Hope we can get a truly special player in the top 5 with the Eagles pick next year?

Don’t love the idea, but there are some really high quality mids in next years draft.

Feel like we are creating a trade for trades sake. 

We need talent now, I am already bemused by us pushing out our seasoned bodies without replacement upgrades and we then are proposing to push high draft picks further into future. 

I have been a big advocate on our list management for the last 5 years or so, but something isn’t quite right this year.

Did we get our salary cap structure wrong? 

2 minutes ago, old55 said:

 

Wait, what? Try to maintain a consistent strategy for at least half a day will ya!

Read the next line about the Eagles future pick? Would be a risk, but that would be our pathway to a special pick

1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

We are not getting that.  There is no chance of 22 on top of that.   WC Will be bottom 4 next year 

It costs a premium to move a pick forward a year.

If the Eagles value Curtin as high as their future pick and want to advance a year they need to pay a lot for it.

Doesn’t take much to improve from last to 5th last if things fall a certain way. Odds are bottom 4, but it’s not a lock.

The years where we moved picks forward or up very high (Oliver, Pickett) we added a second rounder to go up.

13 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

I'd be going for Reid if they're interested in our 5. Upgrade 13 to say 7, offer 5 and 7 for 1.

If they get Reid and Curtin, it could potentially set them up for a decade 

Hanging out for a fwd yet the filth are going to get Schultz from freo.., what is our club doing apart from letting JJ, Harmes & Grundy go????

Edited October 10, 20231 yr by Demonsone

3 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Hanging out for a fwd yet the filth are going to get Schultz from freo.., what is our club doing apart from letting JJ, Harmes & Grundy go????

You want us to offer Schultz a 5 year deal? 

3 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Hanging out for a fwd yet the filth are going to get Schultz from freo.., what is our club doing apart from letting JJ, Harmes & Grundy go????

It’s 2 days into the trade period, take a chill pill.  It doesn’t start to heat up until the last few days 

1 minute ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

You want us to offer Schultz a 5 year deal? 

People are talking about Schultz like he is Wayne Carey.  I must have missed something 

7 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Hanging out for a fwd yet the filth are going to get Schultz from freo.., what is our club doing apart from letting JJ, Harmes & Grundy go????

I guess we will all have to wait and see. I cannot see the club telegraphing what their plans are. But rest assured, there are plans afoot. Have patience and a little trust.

We do drafting a lot better than we do finals.

Edited October 10, 20231 yr by Neil Crompton