DeeSpencer 26,716 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 37 minutes ago, Jibroni said: That pick would then be traded back to Essendon in a deal that would see Dylan Shiel land at St Kilda, in a move that would bolster the Saints engine room. The rationale behind the deal would be Essendon clearing Shiel’s remaining salary off their books for the final year of his contract, to increase some flexibility in their salary cap, to help bring in their two free-agent targets. It has the benefit for Essendon of handing them a handy draft pick, while turning Shiel into McKay. At St Kilda, it means they effectively swap Gresham (who they don’t really want at this point) for Shiel. I reckon Ralphy’s got his wires crossed on this one. The Saints surely want a decent pick for Gresham and Shiel is worth nothing given his age, injuries and salary. Unless there’s no market at all for Gresham and the Bombers have to pay him massive overs I’d expect the Saints to hold on to the good pick and hand Essendon a lesser one. Either way, it’s the height of all dodgyness and the AFL need to stamp it out. (Unless we can do something similar if JJ and Grundy both pick Sydney and we can pay some of Grundy’s contract in return for the Swans boosting JJ to buy us good compo). 2 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,716 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Binmans PA said: I reckon picks will get it done if we want it to. We have a top 5-7 pick, another late first rounder, two seconds and a future first, that's enough capital, along with what North already have to revitalise their list. Larkey is 26, a long term deal with us gives him the chance to play finals. North are having 9 first round picks over a 3 year stretch and Larkey is happy there. He’s not going to move. They’ll improve next year, win at least 10 games if not play finals in 2025 and be a finals lock from then on. Plus what are North going to do? Draft Nate Caddy and hope in 3-5 years he’s good? They’d be mad to get rid of a key forward just for more picks when they’ve had a stack and got more coming. 6 Quote
Roost it far 10,249 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 The talk of Larkey is fantasy. If we land a coup, it’ll be Ben King or Aaron Naughton. Both will cost us plenty. 3 Quote
Demon Disciple 12,543 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, Roost it far said: The talk of Larkey is fantasy. If we land a coup, it’ll be Ben King or Aaron Naughton. Both will cost us plenty. Would be a small drop in the ocean if it leads us to another flag though. We are in contention now, strike while the irons still hot. Go all in and bring in talent that will help us for the now 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,441 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Binmans PA said: Even fake accounts can strike gold sometimes. ;) What if we offered more than 6 years? We have draft capital to offer North and cap space to offer Larkey. We're in a rare position. Who knows. And didn't even realise it was a fake account. At least I'll acknowledge a fake rumour compared to old wink wink over there who'll claim it as is own. On Larkey, you don't sign a huge 6 year contract only to then turn around and speak to other clubs 5 minutes. He'd be nearly on a million a year so money wise he's set at North. C'mon mate, even you're smart enough to think that's absolutely absurd. If this was Petracca or Oliver doing this you'd shut it down as nonsense. Edited September 26, 2023 by dazzledavey36 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,441 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 29 minutes ago, Roost it far said: The talk of Larkey is fantasy. If we land a coup, it’ll be Ben King or Aaron Naughton. Both will cost us plenty. Made up by a guy that lives in fantasy. 1 Quote
Roost it far 10,249 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Binmans PA said: Nope. Petty plays with Larkey. Larkey ain’t coming 1 Quote
wheaters31 687 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 On 9/16/2023 at 2:35 PM, goodwindees said: You might find this interesting because at this stage I don’t believe the media even know about it. As strange as it seems, Taylor Adams from the Pies has contacted the Swans himself to discuss their interest in him moving there. Wants to play more midfield and clearly feels he’s not getting the love from the Pies. Totally separate to this, my sources tell me that Callum Mills has badly damaged his shoulder/collarbone in a mad Monday wrestling match and will miss a major part of preseason. Apparently Longmire was as angry as he’s ever been after hearing about it. @goodwindees strikes again https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/sydney-swans-co-captain-callum-mills-suffers-bad-off-season-injury-as-mad-monday-celebrations-go-horribly-wrong-c-12023911 13 9 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,441 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, wheaters31 said: @goodwindees strikes again https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/sydney-swans-co-captain-callum-mills-suffers-bad-off-season-injury-as-mad-monday-celebrations-go-horribly-wrong-c-12023911 Don't ever doubt the 🐐 with his sources. 3 Quote
Demonstone 23,642 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Roost it far said: Larkey ain’t coming His mother is the source of the dodgy rumours. It's all a load of Ma Larkey. 3 6 3 Quote
Stiff Arm 4,420 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said: On Larkey, you don't sign a huge 6 year contract only to then turn around and speak to other clubs 5 minutes. He'd be nearly on a million a year so money wise he's set at North. Brody Grundy. Not equivalent, but not too dissimilar Stranger things have happened Dazzle! Quote
Demon Disciple 12,543 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said: Don't ever doubt the 🐐 with his sources. I dare say it was said 🐐who was the “teammate” that caused Mills’ injury. Where we’re you @goodwindees during the Swans pissup? Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,843 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 On 9/24/2023 at 9:19 PM, Swooper1987 said: Barry Prendergast. He drafted guys who were rated at the time. The development was horrendous. And a few had injuries like Blease who badly broke his leg before he started and Strauss who took a little while and just as he was beginning to look like the standard he busted his leg too. And then there were a few big misses. A very forgettable time. I have forgotten alot of things from that time period but never the name Barry Prendergast. Etched into my brain for all the wrong tormenting reasons. 2 Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,843 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 7 hours ago, BDA said: Entice Taylor walker to cross on a 2-year deal. better chance of a flag before he retires (although i tip the Crows to play finals next year) We already went after Walker and Fogarty 2 years ago especially Walker and were politely declined. 1 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted September 26, 2023 Author Posted September 26, 2023 Online article on the Herald Sun website purporting to have the "latest" on Petty. Can't access it. Quote
Demon Disciple 12,543 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Nascent said: Online article on the Herald Sun website purporting to have the "latest" on Petty. Can't access it. Probably suggests that the contracted until 2025 Petty will not be going anywhere. Quote
Gawndy the Great 9,011 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Nascent said: Online article on the Herald Sun website purporting to have the "latest" on Petty. Can't access it. It’s a no from Melbourne on Sparrow or Petty. Likely a 3rd round pick for McAdams 10 3 Quote
Stina 11 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Nascent said: Online article on the Herald Sun website purporting to have the "latest" on Petty. Can't access it. No SA homecoming for Dees Melbourne will rebuff Adelaide’s attempts to secure star duo Harry Petty or Tom Sparrow in the Shane McAdam deal. The Crows are keen on a ready-made quality player in return for McAdam, who turned his back on a fresh deal at Adelaide to join Melbourne in the exchange period. But the Demons will likely offer the Crows a third-round pick or low-round pick swap in the McAdam deal. Melbourne’s top priority is to secure adequate compensation in the trade for Brodie Grundy to Sydney, such as a second-round pick. 4 3 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted September 26, 2023 Author Posted September 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said: Probably suggests that the contracted until 2025 Petty will not be going anywhere. I would presume so Quote
Demon Disciple 12,543 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said: It’s a no from Melbourne on Sparrow or Petty. Likely a 3rd round pick for McAdams The nerve of Adelaide. “Oh so you won’t give us Petty? Ok we’ll accept a 3rd rounder” Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted September 26, 2023 Author Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) Article on sen in regards to suns pick 4. “It will be changing hands. Whether North can compete with the Bulldogs remains to be seen, or whether North pivot and go for Melbourne’s first pick.” Swear afl journalists have such a poor understanding of the trade and draft period. In what world would we accept pick 14 and 19 for a top 5 pick. We don't need points and 14 and 19 will become compromised by at least 4 academy and f/s selections. Would roughly look more like pick 7 for 18 and 23. Edited September 26, 2023 by Nascent 1 2 Quote
ChaserJ 5,192 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Nascent said: Article on sen in regards to suns pick 4. “It will be changing hands. Whether North can compete with the Bulldogs remains to be seen, or whether North pivot and go for Melbourne’s first pick.” Swear afl journalists have such a poor understanding of the trade and draft period. In what world would we accept pick 14 and 19 for a top 5 pick. We don't need points and 14 and 19 will become compromised by at least 4 academy and f/s selections. Would roughly look more like pick 7 for 18 and 23. It was quoting Sammy Edmund. I listened to the segment and thought he meant to say West Coast, but said Melbourne. He might have just had Melbourne on his mind, because he also suggested Dees could still have a go at Pick 1. That said, if Roos would still like to take Sanders, they could probably split pick 2 (or a band 1 compensation pick for McKay) with us and still be pretty certain of getting him with our pick from Freo (would be independent of whether they land pick 4). Edited September 26, 2023 by ChaserJ 3 4 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted September 26, 2023 Author Posted September 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, ChaserJ said: It was quoting Sammy Edmund. I listened to the segment and thought he meant to say West Coast, but said Melbourne. He might have just had Melbourne on his mind, because he also suggested Dees could still have a go at Pick 1. That said, if Roos would still like to take Sanders, they could probably split pick 2 (or a band 1 compensation pick for McKay) with us and still be pretty certain of getting him with our pick from Freo (would be independent of whether they land pick 4). Cheers, that makes more sense. 2 Quote
Gawndy the Great 9,011 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Nascent said: Article on sen in regards to suns pick 4. “It will be changing hands. Whether North can compete with the Bulldogs remains to be seen, or whether North pivot and go for Melbourne’s first pick.” Swear afl journalists have such a poor understanding of the trade and draft period. In what world would we accept pick 14 and 19 for a top 5 pick. We don't need points and 14 and 19 will become compromised by at least 4 academy and f/s selections. Would roughly look more like pick 7 for 18 and 23. Maybe they are looking to split their 2nd pick? NM Pick 3 (McKay comp) for 5 and 15. They can then use their first rounders and chase GCS and end up with 2, 4 and 5. Edited September 26, 2023 by Gawndy the Great 1 Quote
Cheap Seats 3,310 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 9 hours ago, Nascent said: Article on sen in regards to suns pick 4. “It will be changing hands. Whether North can compete with the Bulldogs remains to be seen, or whether North pivot and go for Melbourne’s first pick.” Swear afl journalists have such a poor understanding of the trade and draft period. In what world would we accept pick 14 and 19 for a top 5 pick. We don't need points and 14 and 19 will become compromised by at least 4 academy and f/s selections. Would roughly look more like pick 7 for 18 and 23. They're just generating clicks, there is little to no real news ATM. 1 Quote
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