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Trade Rumours 2023


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5 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Naughton would be ideal

Could be Naughton cause he doesn’t like the coach and Dogs can’t pay them all but I feel like it’s more likely to be someone older, a Walker/Hawkins age demographic/type (not saying it’ll specifically be them)  who can help out for 1 or 2 years until JVR and Jefferson are fully ready. Makes more sense and wouldn’t have to give up a stack of draft picks especially pick 5 which we need to take to the draft. You’ll end up losing one of Petty JVR or Jefferson if you bring in a 25 year old because they can’t all play forward. Yes I am on the Jefferson will be a player side as opposed to most

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4 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

I hope we are up to something on a number of fronts:

coaching replacements and switches - forward and midfield coaches, new ball movement plans.

Some better ball users and elite talent (both new via draft and trading in).

Ruck replacement for Grundy, if he goes as planned.

KP players for FB, CHB, CHF.

No rumours here, but if what the jungle drums are signalling (by no signal), I hope we are going to make a big splash this trade/draft period.

This is just fantasyland. Apart from the fact that most trades involve lower-in-the-pecking-order players, there are in reality very few players who get traded at all. e.g., in 2021 there were 19.

As to quality, if we get even one regular first-22 player we'll be doing well.

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3 hours ago, MadAsHell said:

I'm coming around to the idea of throwing a 2 year peanuts deal out to Levi Casboult. Can play ruck, back and forward, is great in the air and should have no issue spending time at Casey. Plus we wouldn't even need to play him in the ruck at Casey so as not to interfere with Farris-White and Verrell's development, however could walk straight into ruck in the seniors should Max get injured.

Similar situation to when we recruited the Meccano Man Ben Holland.

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Only in the AFL could this happen:

How AFL rivals plan to exploit trade loophole

Fox Footy from Fox Sports

Essendon and St Kilda are concocting a bold, never before seen trade/free agency play that has two stars at the centre of the move.

Essendon and St Kilda are reportedly in negotiations that could see the Bombers land an extra first round pick at this year’s draft.

According to The Herald Sun’s Jon Ralph, the clubs’ experienced list bosses Adrian Dodoro and Stephen Silvagni are concocting a trade and free agency ploy that could see an extra first round pick get created through free-agency compensation for St Kilda free agent Jade Gresham.

The pick would then get handed back to the Bombers in a trade for midfielder Dylan Shiel.

The Bombers are in the box seat to secure St Kilda mid-forward Jade Gresham as a restricted free agent, along with North Melbourne defender Ben McKay, who has already nominated the Dons as his nominated destination as a restricted free agent.

In essence, the Bombers would pay Gresham enough to trigger band one compensation – a first-round draft pick after the Saints’ first pick (currently 12) or an end-of-first-round pick (19 before other compo picks and Academy bids move it back).

That pick would then be traded back to Essendon in a deal that would see Dylan Shiel land at St Kilda, in a move that would bolster the Saints engine room.

The rationale behind the deal would be Essendon clearing Shiel’s remaining salary off their books for the final year of his contract, to increase some flexibility in their salary cap, to help bring in their two free-agent targets.

It has the benefit for Essendon of handing them a handy draft pick, while turning Shiel into McKay. At St Kilda, it means they effectively swap Gresham (who they don’t really want at this point) for Shiel.

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7 minutes ago, bing181 said:

This is just fantasyland. Apart from the fact that most trades involve lower-in-the-pecking-order players, there are in reality very few players who get traded at all. e.g., in 2021 there were 19.

As to quality, if we get even one regular first-22 player we'll be doing well.

And 17 of them were linked to Essendon!

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On 9/25/2023 at 9:39 AM, dazzledavey36 said:

Lol this rumour was created by a fake Mitch Cleary account. 🤣 

He signed a massive 6 year contract this year to 2029 and you believe a rumour that straight after he's signed this year he's already willing to talk to the dees?

Do you realise how stupid this now looks ?

Even fake accounts can strike gold sometimes. ;) What if we offered more than 6 years? We have draft capital to offer North and cap space to offer Larkey. We're in a rare position. Who knows.

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50 minutes ago, adonski said:

Yep

I've got Luke Jackson and Sam Weidemen ones lined up to, hearing whispers...

What "whispers"???  Were not seeing Jackson back at Melbourne until the 15th anniversary of the '21 Flag, and only then with his mother's blessing.

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2 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

Even fake accounts can strike gold sometimes. ;) What if we offered more than 6 years? We have draft capital to offer North and cap space to offer Larkey. We're in a rare position. Who knows.

Would you swap Petty (significantly improves North defensively) and pick 13 for Larkey? I reckon I would (Petty is great but you would have to offer up something valuable). North have to get an established player. Picks alone no good. I'm concerned with Petty's injury record so could be convinced to sacrifice him.

That could be win win? maybe?

Larkey and JVR together sorts our KPF situation for years to come.

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5 minutes ago, BDA said:

Would you swap Petty (significantly improves North defensively) and pick 13 for Larkey? I reckon I would (Petty is great but you would have to offer up something valuable). North have to get an established player. Picks alone no good. I'm concerned with Petty's injury record so could be convinced to sacrifice him.

That could be win win? maybe?

Larkey and JVR together sorts our KPF situation for years to come.

Nope. Petty plays with Larkey.

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1 minute ago, BDA said:

what do we offer North. I don't think picks alone gets it done

I reckon picks will get it done if we want it to. We have a top 5-7 pick, another late first rounder, two seconds and a future first, that's enough capital, along with what North already have to revitalise their list.

Larkey is 26, a long term deal with us gives him the chance to play finals.

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37 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

That pick would then be traded back to Essendon in a deal that would see Dylan Shiel land at St Kilda, in a move that would bolster the Saints engine room.

The rationale behind the deal would be Essendon clearing Shiel’s remaining salary off their books for the final year of his contract, to increase some flexibility in their salary cap, to help bring in their two free-agent targets.

It has the benefit for Essendon of handing them a handy draft pick, while turning Shiel into McKay. At St Kilda, it means they effectively swap Gresham (who they don’t really want at this point) for Shiel.

I reckon Ralphy’s got his wires crossed on this one. 

The Saints surely want a decent pick for Gresham and Shiel is worth nothing given his age, injuries and salary. 

Unless there’s no market at all for Gresham and the Bombers have to pay him massive overs I’d expect the Saints to hold on to the good pick and hand Essendon a lesser one.

Either way, it’s the height of all dodgyness and the AFL need to stamp it out.

(Unless we can do something similar if JJ and Grundy both pick Sydney and we can pay some of Grundy’s contract in return for the Swans boosting JJ to buy us good compo).

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