1 hour ago, Red and Blue Flame said:

If Kozzie goes, the equation is quite simple. We will demand Zak Butters. 

Butters is from Victoria.

And Port will say no he's a required player. 

12 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Mate, no one has ever said that?? Nor did I say any journalist were quoted as saying so.. All that is being said is the strong Port Adelaide interest in Pickett and not just from Cornes.

Here's a few snippets.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/09/16/thats-where-the-odds-say-he-will-be-edmund-gives-his-verdict-on-picketts/

SEN’s Chief Sports Reporter Sam Edmund doesn’t think Port Adelaide will be successful in its pursuit of Kysaiah Pickett.

Edmund broke the news earlier this week that Port was exploring the possibility of trading for Pickett over the upcoming trade period.

 

“Port are trying, absolutely trying,” Edmund said on SEN's The Picks.

“I think he’ll stay at Melbourne (though), I think, that’s where the odds say he will be in because he’s contracted for one more year and I can't in any way, shape or form see Melbourne wanting him to go and sanctioning a trade.

 

“I think it would take something significant, Kozzie would have to put in a trade request and at this stage, that is not happening,” Edmund continued.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/09/20/cashed-up-power-to-continue-pickett-pursuit-after-disappointing-dunkley-snub/

Port Adelaide will continue to aggressively pursue Melbourne’s Kysaiah Pickett despite his contract status according to SEN’s Michelangelo Rucci.

While reports have suggested that Pickett is excited about his Melbourne future, Rucci says that they’ll continue to ask the question in hopes that the small forward requests a trade this off-season

 

Port’s definitely there, they’re asking the question quite often,” Rucci said on SEN SA Breakfast.

“Kysaiah is contracted at Melbourne next year, not that contracts mean much at this time of year.

“The real question there is, how much does Kysaiah want to accept what Port Adelaide put in front of him?

“Then it’d be going to Melbourne and saying, ‘Well, I want to go home’.

“Port might be in for the long game, but if you don’t ask, you’ll never get anywhere.

“They’re definitely keen to get Kysaiah Pickett to Alberton, there’s no doubt about that at all.”

Thanks - I hadn't seen anything from Rucci or Edmund that wasn't purely linked to Cornes. 

There are two stories here though, sort of. One is that Pickett doesn't like Melbourne (the city). The other is that Port is interested. There's no surprise about the latter, as you've said. But it's the other story I'm more interested in - whether there's any truth to the rumour that Kozzie doesn't love living here.

2 minutes ago, Matt Demon said:

And Port will say no he's a required player. 

Then we play hard and say that Kozzie is also a required player.

22 minutes ago, Red and Blue Flame said:

Then we play hard and say that Kozzie is also a required player.

While he is out of contract, I do think we should play hard on this one and force a suitable trade. (More suitable than the Jackson trade.)

1. Our recruitment team identified he was a great talent.

2. We gave up a lot to get the draft pick which we used on Kozzie.

3. Our coaching and development staff have developed him exceptionally.

4. We have provided an excellent environment and given him everything we can to make him stay.

There is no way we should accept a deal that isn't equal to his value. We will need to make noise to the AFL to mediate a better deal if necessary.

1 hour ago, TRIGON said:

And had posted without a grammatical error... 'to' much smaller and worse things.

Apologies for dragging the standard down - again.

Well I didn't notice for what it's worth!

2 hours ago, Red and Blue Flame said:

If Kozzie goes, the equation is quite simple. We will demand Zak Butters. 

Butters is from Victoria.

The club will have a plan to quietly connect-attract-convince Port players they see as suitable in the event of Kossie requesting a trade.

I’m sure they would’ve quietly tried something similar with Young/Brayshaw/Serong last year but couldn’t convince any of them to request a trade.

Best thing we can hope for is a shabby year for Port and instability at Alberton! 

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23 minutes ago, Demonland said:

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Two much's is definitely more encouraging than one.

Interested to know how Jay Clark’s crystal ball has performed over the years.

Wow, what a rollercoaster ride this is

So what do you reckon? Stay or leave?

This could be an all day brainbuster, but I need to get back to work.

8 minutes ago, layzie said:

So what do you reckon? Stay or leave?

This could be an all day brainbuster, but I need to get back to work.

If the decision is purely based on football, he should stay.... However players tend to be too complex individuals these days so ... Who knows???

Add to that the fact that the AFL draft system is a joke (see JHF last season)🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

I reckon he stays. Hope I'm right.

Put simply, LJ’s manager was never negotiating with us to stay and apparently Kozzie’s is. That is a big difference and probably what leads to some confidence from the club he will stay.

🤞

Kosi is a completely different person to Jackson. We need to stop lumping these two together.

Kosi also has, as previously mentioned, a serious girlfriend who resides in Melbourne and family spread across two states.

He has had a vastly different upbringing to Jackson, and just because Melbourne the city isn't his cup of tea, does not mean he isn't willing to deal with it for the sake of playing footy for a club he loves, where he sees long term success and has great friendships. 

If he does choose to leave, I am sure the club already has contingency plans. 

Jackson was never serious about staying with us long term. It was obvious from the second he only extended his contract for one year. Kosi has already previously extended his contract and if his management is in talks with us it means Kosi is definitely open to staying.

This whole thing might just be a clever ploy to up his contract value. Maybe he thinks he will have a phenomenal year in the midfield and earn himself a few more dollars/years. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Kosi is a completely different person to Jackson. We need to stop lumping these two together.

Kosi also has, as previously mentioned, a serious girlfriend who resides in Melbourne and family spread across two states.

He has had a vastly different upbringing to Jackson, and just because Melbourne the city isn't his cup of tea, does not mean he isn't willing to deal with it for the sake of playing footy for a club he loves, where he sees long term success and has great friendships. 

If he does choose to leave, I am sure the club already has contingency plans. 

 

Not sure if you are referring to me in the “lumping together comment “ but my post is more to deal with the discussions with Managers, or lack thereof, probably indicating different outcomes.

20 minutes ago, Redleg said:

LJ’s manager was never negotiating with us to stay and apparently Kozzie’s is.

Are both of these statements known/facts or assumptions?

6 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Are both of these statements known/facts or assumptions?

The former is known fact and the latter also appears known fact, given Richardson’s comment that negotiations with Kozzie’s manager are progressing well. 

26 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Not sure if you are referring to me in the “lumping together comment “ but my post is more to deal with the discussions with Managers, or lack thereof, probably indicating different outcomes.

No I wasn't. 

1 hour ago, layzie said:

So what do you reckon? Stay or leave?

This could be an all day brainbuster, but I need to get back to work.

Relax 'layzie.🙃

No amount of 'brainbusting' will give the answer until he signs or after we play our last game.  Either is many many months away.

Pay kozzie whatever he wants.

Yes, he really is that good and worth it alone on marketing for our junior supporters. 

Never have I had such an emotional attachment to a player since Liam Jurrah and Jeff Farmer.

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Pay kozzie whatever he wants.

Yes, he really is that good and worth it alone on marketing for our junior supporters. 

Never have I had such an emotional attachment to a player since Liam Jurrah and Jeff Farmer.

I was disappointed that Jackson left, but devastated is the word I would use if Kozzy left.

He is such a special player and brings so much joy watching him play.

26 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Relax 'layzie.🙃

No amount of 'brainbusting' will give the answer until he signs or after we play our last game.  Either is many many months away.

Yet this thread will probs end up twice the length of the LJ one. 

2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Interested to know how Jay Clark’s crystal ball has performed over the years.

Someone posted that scenario about how this is different  two or three pages ago and low and behold up it pops by JC himself.

22 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Yet this thread will probs end up twice the length of the LJ one. 

Pickett would also be twice the loss Jackson was.

Not because I don't think Jackson will go on to have a wonderful career, but because Pickett is a special player who holds a lot of space in the heart of Melbourne fans.

Losing him would be akin to when we lost Farmer, who was a cult figure amongst Dees fans.

Short of losing Oliver or Trac, which thankfully is nothing we have to worry about for 7 more years, I can't think of another player I would be sadder to see go... maybe Fritta.