12 hours ago, Demonland said:

Adams is listed as 196cm and Jefferson is listed as 195cm. Both could still grow. 

It’s amazing the change in player size not so long ago those sizes would have made you among the top 10% of player heights. 

1 minute ago, old dee said:

It’s amazing the change in player size not so long ago those sizes would have made you among the top 10% of player heights. 

Amazing to think Jeff White was such a dominant ruckman for not only us but even around the league when he was at his peak.

He was only 195cm tall but his crazy leap was his biggest strengths. 

8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Amazing to think Jeff White was such a dominant ruckman for not only us but even around the league when he was at his peak.

He was only 195cm tall but his crazy leap was his biggest strengths. 

Limiting the run up of the ruck diminished that advantage.

Just now, Demonland said:

Limiting the run up of the ruck diminished that advantage.

Effectively ended his career

Jeff was a bit of a freak absolutely loved watching him leap all over his opponents, shortening the run up took away that great advantage. Looking forward to seeing Kalani.

Edited December 7, 20223 yr by DeeZone
Spell checker didn’t like Kalani. Hope that is right.??

13 hours ago, Demonland said:

I think you might need your eyes tested 🤪

Verrell #28 and Adams #26

Sestan looks so short. That said he is the same height as John Nicholls. How times change.

23 minutes ago, djr said:

Sestan looks so short. That said he is the same height as John Nicholls. How times change.

The game has changed dramatically since big Nicks  days and some areas not for the better. I dislike the inter change rules and the number of players. It may well be my age but I lose track of who is actually on the ground. 

28 minutes ago, djr said:

Sestan looks so short. That said he is the same height as John Nicholls. How times change.

He only looks short because he's standing next to a 206cm lad.

14 hours ago, Demonland said:

I think you might need your eyes tested 🤪

Verrell #28 and Adams #26

Looks like we've primarily gone for height and key positions this draft. Perhaps next season we need to get our next gen of midfield bulls.

1 hour ago, old dee said:

The game has changed dramatically since big Nicks  days and some areas not for the better. I dislike the inter change rules and the number of players. It may well be my age but I lose track of who is actually on the ground. 

I find it helps if you know the players' numbers.

Edited December 8, 20223 yr by old55

16 minutes ago, old55 said:

I find it helps if you know the players' numbers.

Agree old55 and we have a few newbies so lots of new numbers to learn before the first bounce.!!

Edited December 8, 20223 yr by DeeZone
Quick addition

3 hours ago, raDeelaide said:

Thank you to all of the Demonlanders who attend training during the pre-season and relay these reports to us. As an interstate fan in a city that only talks about 2 teams it is very nice to have a resource like this that we can reliably depend on for news about how the boys are travelling.

Agree with the sentiment raD. There seems to be only two teams  in NSW, unless they happen to play another team in the league. Then you get to see scores for four teams out of 18!

3 hours ago, djr said:

Sestan looks so short. That said he is the same height as John Nicholls. How times change.

Not quite. He's listed as 186cm Nicholls 189cm which wasn't necessarily that  short for even his era. '68 GF Don McKenzie his Dons opponent in the ruck was 188cm. 1970 GF Graeme Jenkins 193cm.  

2 minutes ago, Its Time for Another said:

Not quite. He's listed as 186cm Nicholls 189cm which wasn't necessarily that  short for even his era. '68 GF Don McKenzie his Dons opponent in the ruck was 188cm. 1970 GF Graeme Jenkins 193cm.  

Actually Alan Morrow was a ruckman for St Kilda and was 183 and Graham Wise was 188 but ruckmen of that era were much shorter than today in fact Robert (Bob) Johnson Jr was 198 and was considered tall, players like him and Len Thompson were the template of the modern taller ruckmen.

4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Amazing to think Jeff White was such a dominant ruckman for not only us but even around the league when he was at his peak.

He was only 195cm tall but his crazy leap was his biggest strengths. 

Paddy Ryder was 196cm.

Amazing to think he was still a more than competitive ruckman in this era.

17 hours ago, Demonland said:

Concerning that he's missed the last 2 sessions but there is a lot of COVID and other bugs around so who knows.

He has covid. I believe a few do.

2 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

He has covid. I believe a few do.

and not surprising really.

in vic we are currently getting >30K covid positives a week

9 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

and not surprising really.

in vic we are currently getting >30K covid positives a week

I think it is much higher, I know a number of people who have contracted it over the last month and not one has reported it. They do the test and go to bed with some Panadol. 

40 minutes ago, old dee said:

I think it is much higher, I know a number of people who have contracted it over the last month and not one has reported it. They do the test and go to bed with some Panadol. 

yes. that's why i put the ">" sign 😉

You get on a plane from Cairns to Sydney to Hobart and you are asking for it even with a mask.Caught a 320 back with 400 mask less people made it twice

9 hours ago, old dee said:

The game has changed dramatically since big Nicks  days and some areas not for the better. I dislike the inter change rules and the number of players. It may well be my age but I lose track of who is actually on the ground. 

But some areas like biff behind the play and elbows to the head have largely disappeared which would leave the likes of Nichols, Dyer, Matthews, Rhys-Jones missing a lot of games. 

6 hours ago, durango said:

Actually Alan Morrow was a ruckman for St Kilda and was 183 and Graham Wise was 188 but ruckmen of that era were much shorter than today in fact Robert (Bob) Johnson Jr was 198 and was considered tall, players like him and Len Thompson were the template of the modern taller ruckmen.

I must say I had always thought that Wise was much taller.  He was the first that I can recall who, like Jimmy later, rucked all day.

11 hours ago, Demonland said:

Limiting the run up of the ruck diminished that advantage.

My Hawks mate would then point out that most ball-ups were around the ground.

1 hour ago, monoccular said:

But some areas like biff behind the play and elbows to the head have largely disappeared which would leave the likes of Nichols, Dyer, Matthews, Rhys-Jones missing a lot of games. 

I must say I had always thought that Wise was much taller.  He was the first that I can recall who, like Jimmy later, rucked all day.

I didn't say all the changes were bad mono. Multiple umpires has stopped behind the play thuggery. 

Edited December 8, 20223 yr by old dee

47 minutes ago, redandbluemakepurple said:

My Hawks mate would then point out that most ball-ups were around the ground.

around the ground ruck contests are usually more body on body contests

19 hours ago, old55 said:

I find it helps if you know the players' numbers.

Numbers?  What numbers??