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10 hours ago, rpfc said:

Oh FCS, I did something similar to Fat Tony last year and was howled down; we would have very little cap space with the list we have and the fact that we absorbed Grundy and have resigned Pickett.

Unless we move players a few middling first teamers or a star - we aren’t getting big names.

We will see.

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From AFL website:

MELBOURNE is in discussions on a new deal for youngster Taj Woewodin as he pushes for an AFL debut.

The versatile youngster is due to come out of contract this season at the end of his standard two-year contract after being drafted at the end of 2021, but is in contract talks for an extension.

A two-year extension would be likely as with the majority of draftees coming out of their initial contract.

With Chandler in discussions, Hibberd to wait, Jordon likely to go there are not many left OOC

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  • 2 weeks later...

Updated for Chandler's much deserved 3 year contract extension until 2026

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Thanks LH great effort as usual we have done very well this year.!!

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38 minutes ago, Sydney_Demon said:

What about JJ?

I think it would be best for all if he went. He isn’t getting opportunities and I wouldn’t make waves to get him in the surf, so to speak.

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3 minutes ago, rpfc said:

I think it would be best for all if he went. He isn’t getting opportunities and I wouldn’t make waves to get him in the surf, so to speak.

I disagree. We should be doing all we can to keep him. He should be getting opportunities. For instance, definitely always pick him ahead of Harmes.

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1 minute ago, Sydney_Demon said:

I disagree. We should be doing all we can to keep him. He should be getting opportunities. For instance, definitely always pick him ahead of Harmes.

Sadly for JJ being picked ahead of harmes only puts him around 23rd-25th or so this year.

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14 minutes ago, Sydney_Demon said:

I disagree. We should be doing all we can to keep him. He should be getting opportunities. For instance, definitely always pick him ahead of Harmes.

Harmes has hardly been playing as it is. I think JJ is a neat player who can play on ball and find the footy but nothing more than that. 

I think he will leave as a FA and with Turner coming up onto the list and Melksham, Hibberd and Dunstan leaving that is only two spots for the draft. Don’t think we will go to the draft with 4 picks inside 30 with only two list spots.

Then you are looking at trades and retirements of contracted players… not easy to do.

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3 hours ago, rpfc said:

Harmes has hardly been playing as it is. I think JJ is a neat player who can play on ball and find the footy but nothing more than that. 

I think he will leave as a FA and with Turner coming up onto the list and Melksham, Hibberd and Dunstan leaving that is only two spots for the draft. Don’t think we will go to the draft with 4 picks inside 30 with only two list spots.

Then you are looking at trades and retirements of contracted players… not easy to do.

@rpfc with 4 players off (JJ, Melksham, Hibberd, Dunstan)and one on (Turner) doesn't that leave 3 list spots for the draft (or for trade/FA)?

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5 hours ago, deanox said:

@rpfc with 4 players off (JJ, Melksham, Hibberd, Dunstan)and one on (Turner) doesn't that leave 3 list spots for the draft (or for trade/FA)?

I'd be banking on Harmes bring traded and perhaps even Ben Brown retiring. 

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53 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'd be banking on Harmes bring traded and perhaps even Ben Brown retiring. 

Maybe, but both those fall through? You’re looking at a list spot crunch.

I agree on Harmes, no idea on Brown.

Then there is the trade up and consolidate picks issue which might deplete our number of draft picks considerably.

But really- it just comes down to I think JJ is good enough to play AFL midfield minutes but just not for us.

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FWIW Cal Twomey said the other day that the Demons were keen to keep James Jordon. Given we are a professional, well run club these days and he probably doesn’t want to leave, but is just looking for more playing opportunities I’d be surprised if he left. 

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11 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Maybe, but both those fall through? You’re looking at a list spot crunch.

I agree on Harmes, no idea on Brown.

Then there is the trade up and consolidate picks issue which might deplete our number of draft picks considerably.

But really- it just comes down to I think JJ is good enough to play AFL midfield minutes but just not for us.

Agree.

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12 hours ago, deanox said:

@rpfc with 4 players off (JJ, Melksham, Hibberd, Dunstan)and one on (Turner) doesn't that leave 3 list spots for the draft (or for trade/FA)?

On current form Hibbo might get another year which, assuming both Taj & JJ get extended, would only leave us with 1 spot which doesn't work. We'll have 4 A rookie spots. Could Hibbo be offered a rookie contract? As I've posted before, Harmes would probably still have value as a pre-FA trade. Schache? If he doesn't get any AFL time for the rest of the year would he be looking to be traded early? If he shows good form for Casey I would imagine there'd be some interest (but I imagine we'd like to keep him with BBB & TMac finishing up next year). Talking about BBB & TMac, they could retire early if given the right incentives. Again, we's probably like to keep TMac for 2024 if injuries aren't a concern but that depends on how the forward line functions for the rest of the year. We need to find a way of playing the fringe players (pick best team for Geelong but then some rotations afterwards) to get some clarity going forwards. A lot of unknowns at this stage. 

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On 6/17/2023 at 8:10 PM, adonski said:

Hibbo deserves another year if he wants to go on

Hibbo is on 193 games and has the capacity to reach the big 200 this season, he has already played over 100 games for us qualifying him for F/S/D he deserves that 200 status hopefully he reaches that milestone in 2023.❤️💙

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Agree with all above list spots are going to be like gold in 2024 and we have our best draft hand in years has to be a couple of hard decisions this year.😪

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21 hours ago, Roost it far said:

I'd say Hibbo, Brown, TMac, Melksham will all retire. They'll likely be 1 or 2 delistings as well.

BBB & TMac are both contracted til the end of 2024 so I imagine won't retire unless they're given the appropriate financial encouragement to do so. Given their respective ages I can't imagine any other club would be interested in doing a trade this year. I agree that Melksham will likely retire, Hibbo's position will be dependent on form & fitness status (given his chronic achilles issues) but on current form he might get another year. That leaves only 3 players on our current list (forgetting rookies for the moment): JJ, Taj & Dunstan. I'd like to think all could get traded rather than delisted but am hoping we keep both JJ & Taj. 

We have 2 uncontracted A rookies & 2 uncontracted B rookes. I think Deakyn Smith has shown enough to remain on the list, Kye Turner hasn't played much and is out injured it seems long-term so is more likely than not to be delisted, Andy Moniz-Wakefield I think will bre retained and I haven't seen enough of Kyah Farris-White to know how he's progressing.  

I subscribe to the Tradeies podcast. They had a very interesting take yesterday on Adam Tomlinson's position and reckons he's likely to be in a tradeable position this year. Their view was that his contract value made it difficult to trade him last year but that changes now with only 1 year to run on his contract. As I have posted before I also reckon it would be in Harmes and the Club's best interests for him to be traded this year a year before his contract expires.

So in a perfect world I'd like to see Tomlinson & Harmes traded a year ahead of contract expiry, TMac & BBB retiring early, JJ & Taj re-contracted, Hibbo given another year, Dunstan traded, Melksham retired. BBB & TMac could still have something to offer and obviously it wouldn't make any sense for them to be encouraged to retire just to free up list spots if Melbourne had to pay out their full contract value (although that I suppose depends on current & future cap space.

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1 hour ago, Sydney_Demon said:

BBB & TMac are both contracted til the end of 2024 so I imagine won't retire unless they're given the appropriate financial encouragement to do so. Given their respective ages I can't imagine any other club would be interested in doing a trade this year. I agree that Melksham will likely retire, Hibbo's position will be dependent on form & fitness status (given his chronic achilles issues) but on current form he might get another year. That leaves only 3 players on our current list (forgetting rookies for the moment): JJ, Taj & Dunstan. I'd like to think all could get traded rather than delisted but am hoping we keep both JJ & Taj. 

We have 2 uncontracted A rookies & 2 uncontracted B rookes. I think Deakyn Smith has shown enough to remain on the list, Kye Turner hasn't played much and is out injured it seems long-term so is more likely than not to be delisted, Andy Moniz-Wakefield I think will bre retained and I haven't seen enough of Kyah Farris-White to know how he's progressing.  

I subscribe to the Tradeies podcast. They had a very interesting take yesterday on Adam Tomlinson's position and reckons he's likely to be in a tradeable position this year. Their view was that his contract value made it difficult to trade him last year but that changes now with only 1 year to run on his contract. As I have posted before I also reckon it would be in Harmes and the Club's best interests for him to be traded this year a year before his contract expires.

So in a perfect world I'd like to see Tomlinson & Harmes traded a year ahead of contract expiry, TMac & BBB retiring early, JJ & Taj re-contracted, Hibbo given another year, Dunstan traded, Melksham retired. BBB & TMac could still have something to offer and obviously it wouldn't make any sense for them to be encouraged to retire just to free up list spots if Melbourne had to pay out their full contract value (although that I suppose depends on current & future cap space.

I would do all this and get Ben King or whoever, but lots of ifs and buts to get there. 

I just don’t think we have the cap space without doing the above.

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7 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

BBB and TMac need to be retired. It's ove, done, finished, thanks for the memories!

Would you retire if you were a chance to play in this team?

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3 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Would you retire if you were a chance to play in this team?

Would you retire if you were a chance to play in this team and you were contracted to receive a salary of $300K - $400K next year?

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