17 minutes ago, Deebymistake said:

I generally don't follow social media so am not sure of the rumours you are alluding to.  I am giving my opinion that Oliver is unwell and the club as his employer is not allowed to disclose health information that is beyond that deemed reasonable or consented to by Oliver himself.  We shouldn't expect to be given every inch of detail.  Agree though that lack of info swirls the rumour mill.  It is a balancing act.  

I don't expect any info from the club.

Let's be clear your posts about Oliver are opinions and not based on any knowledge.

Its best to say that from the beginning.

Edited July 5, 20231 yr by Lucifers Hero

6 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Incredibly poor look? Its now becoming a major issue.!! Club will be going into damage control soon if this isn't clarrified.

It’s not a poor look at all. I’ll bet my old jeans Oliver wants to keep training and play and he’s being told he can’t. Surely 2 professionals can have a heated discussion or do we now live in a world where raising your voice is no go.

4 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I don't expect any info from the club.

Let's be clear your posts about Oliver are oipnions and not based on any knowledge.

Its best to say that from the beginning.

I am giving my opinion.  The 2023 session is turning into a train wreck.  I much preferred the 2021 session, lock downs and all!

3 days after doing a hammy, he was running?

Damn, when I strained mine, I could hardly walk to the fridge! 

3 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

It’s not a poor look at all. I’ll bet my old jeans Oliver wants to keep training and play and he’s being told he can’t. Surely 2 professionals can have a heated discussion or do we now live in a world where raising your voice is no go.

Firstly that discussion should be had behind closed doors 

Secondly, it takes nothing away from the fact that he’s missed two months of football with a reported regulation hamstring. 

25 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

Has there been any offical word on Oliver yet and what the hell is about. 

 

How does a journo get into a closed training session and film this stuff...

Edited July 5, 20231 yr by Lucifers Hero

He is just frustrated. He wants to play but his body is holding him back. He knows the club is under huge pressure and he wants to help. Selwyn is just trying to keep him calm.

I don’t know why anyone else can’t see that. He is only human. 

14 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

It’s not a poor look at all. I’ll bet my old jeans Oliver wants to keep training and play and he’s being told he can’t. Surely 2 professionals can have a heated discussion or do we now live in a world where raising your voice is no go.

Nah.

This is a poor look. If Selwyn has ordered him to either take it easy or made the call to give it another week then Oliver needs to respect those above him and pull his head in.

If Selwyn is making a decision purely for the best of Oliver's health then so be it.

10 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

How does a journo get into a closed training session and film this stuff...

They were allowed in to film the warm up.

59 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

If something else is going on then they need to tell us. 
These idiotic cryptic injury reports leave a lot to be desired when your best player is in question and your top 4 spot is on the line!

No they dont. Please feel free to tell us your medical history

12 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

How does a journo get into a closed training session and film this stuff...

media allowed in for warm up to get some shots and then asked to leave after that

13 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

How does a journo get into a closed training session and film this stuff...

Was it a closed training session?

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Nah.

This is a poor look. If Selwyn has ordered him to either take it easy or made the call to give it another week then Oliver needs to respect those above him and pull his head in.

If Selwyn is making a decision purely for the best of Oliver's health then so be it.

He’s playing to win Premiership’s, he knows the team is better placed with him in it. He’s frustrated and 2 adults can surely have a solid discussion about the situation. Jeez, I have them with folks all the time.

Chill, they’re just re-enacting the Trac Cox saga. 

9 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

He is just frustrated. He wants to play but his body is holding him back. He knows the club is under huge pressure and he wants to help. Selwyn is just trying to keep him calm.

I don’t know why anyone else can’t see that. He is only human. 

Without knowing facts at all, a lot of people just want to go on their rants, lay the blame at whoever they can and  generally just make up garbage.

42 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

Has there been any offical word on Oliver yet and what the hell is about. 

 

Oliver is simply relaying to the medical team all the constructive feedback he read on demonland about his injury management.  Well said mate! 

There was fear on the night of the injury that it was a tendon injury

This recovery time - 8-12 weeks - would be more in keeping with that

The look of the dialogue between Clarry and Selwyn was not a good look.

I understand Oliver's side of frustration and seemingly "pushing" to keep at it. It is Selwyn with his hand out, the agitation and walking away and returning, that I have the problem with. He need's to remain calm and be seen to give feedback that is calculated and delivered in a way that brings the best out of Clarry.

As with all the MFC coaches and staff, "get the best out of the squad", should be the mantra. 

Maybe Selwyn knows Clarry well, and that is the approach that is best for him. Just, doesn't look like it.

Edited July 5, 20231 yr by kev martin

2 hours ago, poita said:

The club needs to come out at some point and give us the full story,

No they don’t. 

4 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

No they don’t. 

The goal posts have significantly shifted every week. 

I don’t need a breakdown of his medical history, but he’s our most important player and the last time the club said nothing, morons on the internet said he was serving a drug ban.

I don’t want that circulating again. I’m sure he doesn’t either. 

I’m no lip reader, but I can clearly make out Oliver saying “what more do you want me to do”

Given goody’s presser said he had one more session to tick off - I’m assuming the message that he hasn’t ticked off the final hurdle didn’t go down well with Clarry.   
 

Im not expecting him to play this week based on that footage.

Fact Oliver seems to not understand is clearly an issue, if he feels right then he should be playing he’s an adult will know his body best

Edited July 5, 20231 yr by Garbo

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

The goal posts have significantly shifted every week. 

I don’t need a breakdown of his medical history, but he’s our most important player and the last time the club said nothing, morons on the internet said he was serving a drug ban.

I don’t want that circulating again. I’m sure he doesn’t either. 

Morons will be morons regardless of what is or isn’t disclosed.

Personally, I’m happy (as well as amazed) that the Club manages to successfully keep things under wraps. Quite often family and friends aren’t given full details and oftentimes the player in question isn’t told everything. While this frustrates supporters the benefits of secrecy far outweigh anything else. 

6 minutes ago, Garbo said:

Fact Oliver seems to not understand is clearly an issue, if he feels right then he should be playing he’s an adult will know his body best

With respect, Clarrie is the last person who should have a say in it. If it was up to him he wouldn’t have missed a single game.

26 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

The goal posts have significantly shifted every week. 

I don’t need a breakdown of his medical history, but he’s our most important player and the last time the club said nothing, morons on the internet said he was serving a drug ban.

I don’t want that circulating again. I’m sure he doesn’t either. 

Idiots on twitter again with the drug story.  I cannot fathom these peanuts

1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

It’s not a poor look at all. I’ll bet my old jeans Oliver wants to keep training and play and he’s being told he can’t. Surely 2 professionals can have a heated discussion or do we now live in a world where raising your voice is no go.

That would be my take on it too, from the vision above. Which, lets face it, is a far better outcome than if he had re-injured it.