Jump to content

Featured Replies

 

Hawthorn have truly lacked foresight here. They have essentially set up an anonymous public accusation forum, without any view on how any serious accusations may be resolved

There is no clear path forward for those aggrieved and/or those accused to have the situations resolved one way or the another

What a complete mess

 
54 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

I think they are right to not want the AFL involved in any way. Basically telling them to stick their so called independent inquiry.

Their (AFL) record on this is poor.

...but not sure how it happens.

Maybe the human rights commission? although other authorities in the past also don't have a great record.

Any ideas?

Edited by rjay

3 minutes ago, rjay said:

I think they are right to not want the AFL involved in any way. Basically telling them to stick their so called independent inquiry.

Their (AFL) record on this is poor.

...but not sure how it happens.

Maybe the human rights commission? although other authorities in the past also don't have a great record.

Any ideas?

i thought the afl was setting up an independent panel

the afl integrity unit are not conducting the investigation


7 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

i thought the afl was setting up an independent panel

the afl integrity unit are not conducting the investigation

...but the AFL are still selecting the panel and who creates the terms of reference?

It can't be independent if the AFL are setting it up.

The players don't want them involved in anyway apart from being called to give evidence.

I agree with the players.

Edited by rjay

15 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

i thought the afl was setting up an independent panel

the afl integrity unit are not conducting the investigation

Would be good if the panel was independent and not set up or funded by the AFL. The best way to get the right outcome (whatever that may be) is not to have the AFL run it or have influence over it 

Edited by Stiff Arm

25 minutes ago, rjay said:

I think they are right to not want the AFL involved in any way. Basically telling them to stick their so called independent inquiry.

Their (AFL) record on this is poor.

...but not sure how it happens.

Maybe the human rights commission? although other authorities in the past also don't have a great record.

Any ideas?

The article mentions human rights commission or a state inquiry, but I would’ve thought the AFL could pick 1 or 2 members, the AFLPA 2 members and the AFLCA 1 member and they hold it under afl rules. Maybe give veto power to each body to rule out anyone deemed untrustworthy or biased. The hearing is to determine if afl rules were breached, it has to be at least held in relation to the afl even if they stay away from it. 

At the end of the day legal actions and settlements are likely to come no matter which way it breaks, but as tricky as it is the players have to step forward I think.

 

Edited by DeeSpencer

 
2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

The article mentions human rights commission or a state inquiry, but I would’ve thought the AFL could pick 1 or 2 members, the AFLPA 2 members and the AFLCA 1 member and they hold it under afl rules. Maybe give veto power to each body to rule out anyone deemed untrustworthy or biased. The hearing is to determine if afl rules were breached, it has to be at least held in relation to the afl even if they stay away from it. 

At the end of the day legal actions and settlements are likely to come no matter which way it breaks, but as tricky as it is the players have to step forward I think.

 

The AFLPA are funded by the AFL, let's just leave that there.

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

The article mentions human rights commission or a state inquiry, but I would’ve thought the AFL could pick 1 or 2 members, the AFLPA 2 members and the AFLCA 1 member and they hold it under afl rules.

Yeah, nah.


If anyone thinks there isn't going to be more and more news each day on this they are kidding themselves.

12 hours ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

As if the AFL will cede power to an independent body...

It's against the fibre of their being

And you lose total control. 


19 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Interesting that the ABC says they were offered more time to respond to the allegations but didn’t really. 

8 minutes ago, sue said:

Interesting that the ABC says they were offered more time to respond to the allegations but didn’t really. 

The ABC Legal Department would have covered all bases with this story. It’s too volatile to be careless

1 hour ago, sue said:

Interesting that the ABC says they were offered more time to respond to the allegations but didn’t really. 

Whoops. Typo made that post obscure.   Last word was meant to be “reply”. 

3 hours ago, sue said:

Interesting that the ABC says they were offered more time to respond to the allegations but didn’t really. 

Yeah, they were all on the phone to lawyers as soon as they got wind that the abc were asking questions. 


2 hours ago, sue said:

Whoops. Typo made that post obscure.   Last word was meant to be “reply”. 

That makes more sense 😀

 
9 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

 

Ordinary article by Caro in TheAge

Citing Sam Mitchell's book published in 2018, and conversations with non-indigenous player who all said "that their own experiences should not be compared to those published in the cultural safety review"

And the majority "stressed that Clarkson saw himself as a father figure at the club who, while at times overstepping the mark in interfering in their personal lives, firmly believed he was prioritising the best interests of his footballers"

The most shocking "fresh" allegation is that Mitchell had to hand his phone in with all temates while away and his Mrs was often needing to take on of the babies to hospital  -  and a few paragraphs later actually note the fact that the phone was given back and an exception made for him...

So a non-story with no relevant new information insinuating there is more shocking accusations, just so Caro can get some column inches out the door...


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • PREVIEW: Gold Coast

    The Gold Coast Suns find themselves outside of the top eight for the first time since Round 1 with pressure is mounting on the entire organisation. Their coach Damien Hardwick expressed his frustration at his team’s condition last week by making a middle-finger gesture on television that earned him a fine for his troubles. He showed his desperation by claiming that Fox should pick up the tab.  There’s little doubt the Suns have shown improvement in 2025, and their position on the ladder is influenced to some extent by having played fewer games than their rivals for a playoff role at the end of the season, courtesy of the disruption caused by Cyclone Alfred in March.  However, they are following the same trajectory that hindered the club in past years whenever they appeared to be nearing their potential. As a consequence, that Hardwick gesture should be considered as more than a mere behavioral lapse. It’s a distress signal that does not bode well for the Queenslanders. While the Suns are eager to remain in contention with the top eight, Melbourne faces its own crisis, which is similarly deep-seated but in a much different way. After recovering from a disappointing start to the season and nearing a return to respectability among its peer clubs, the Demons have experienced a decline in status, driven by the fact that while their form has been reasonable (see their performance against the ladder leader in the Kings Birthday match), their conversion in front of goal is poor enough to rank last in the competition. Furthermore, their opponents find them exceptionally easy to score against. As a result, they have effectively eliminated themselves from the finals race and are again positioned to finish in the bottom half of the ladder.

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 4 replies
  • NON-MFC: Round 15

    As the Demons head into their Bye Round, it's time to turn our attention to the other matches being played. Which teams are you tipping this week? And which results would be most favourable for the Demons if we can manage to turn our season around? Follow all the non-Melbourne games here and join the conversation as the ladder continues to take shape.

      • Like
    • 287 replies
  • REPORT: Port Adelaide

    Of course, it’s not the backline, you might argue and you would probably be right. It’s the boot studder (do they still have them?), the midfield, the recruiting staff, the forward line, the kicking coach, the Board, the interchange bench, the supporters, the folk at Casey, the head coach and the club psychologist  It’s all of them and all of us for having expectations that were sufficiently high to have believed three weeks ago that a restoration of the Melbourne team to a position where we might still be in contention for a finals berth when the time for the midseason bye arrived. Now let’s look at what happened over the period of time since Melbourne overwhelmed the Sydney Swans at the MCG in late May when it kicked 8.2 to 5.3 in the final quarter (and that was after scoring 3.8 to two straight goals in the second term). 

      • Clap
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 3 replies
  • CASEY: Essendon

    Casey’s unbeaten run was extended for at least another fortnight after the Demons overran a persistent Essendon line up by 29 points at ETU Stadium in Port Melbourne last night. After conceding the first goal of the evening, Casey went on a scoring spree from about ten minutes in, with five unanswered majors with its fleet of midsized runners headed by the much improved Paddy Cross who kicked two in quick succession and livewire Ricky Mentha who also kicked an early goal. Leading the charge was recruit of the year, Riley Bonner while Bailey Laurie continued his impressive vein of form. With Tom Campbell missing from the lineup, Will Verrall stepped up to the plate demonstrating his improvement under the veteran ruckman’s tutelage. The Demons were looking comfortable for much of the second quarter and held a 25-point lead until the Bombers struck back with two goals in the shadows of half time. On the other side of the main break their revival continued with first three goals of the half. Harry Sharp, who had been quiet scrambled in the Demons’ first score of the third term to bring the margin back to a single point at the 17 minute mark and the game became an arm-wrestle for the remainder of the quarter and into the final moments of the last.

      • Clap
    • 0 replies
  • PREGAME: Gold Coast

    The Demons have the Bye next week but then are on the road once again when they come up against the Gold Coast Suns on the Gold Coast in what could be a last ditch effort to salvage their season. Who comes in and who comes out?

      • Thanks
    • 333 replies
  • PODCAST: Port Adelaide

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 16th June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect the Dees disappointing loss to the Power.
    Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
    Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

      • Thanks
    • 33 replies