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10 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Trust Sydney to turn him back into an All-Australian ruck again.

They will have him and Hickey working together like a well-oiled machine.

Hickey’s retired mate 

 

Sydney are a direct competitor to us next year so we shouldn't bend over backwards to trade him there. Ensure the draft pick is good OR get them to pay massive chunk of his salary so we can therefore target a ready made player for next year with Grundy's $$

As for this weekend, and with JVR out, I think it's gotten to the point where we actually can't not select him.

 

22 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Sydney are a direct competitor to us next year so we shouldn't bend over backwards to trade him there. Ensure the draft pick is good OR get them to pay massive chunk of his salary so we can therefore target a ready made player for next year with Grundy's $$

As for this weekend, and with JVR out, I think it's gotten to the point where we actually can't not select him.

 

They will be paying all of his salary, unless we are talking pick 11 and then we might pay some.

They apparently have some interest in Harmes. Maybe Dylan Stephens and pick 11 for Grundy, Harmes and a bit of salary cap relief.

 
On 8/24/2023 at 11:28 AM, mo64 said:

You are correct, but historically neither had shown that they were capable forwards. The club and some supporters got giddy by Max' 2021 Prelim 5 goal haul, but that has proven to be an outlier.

The 2nd reason why it didn't work is that both Max and Grundy need to spend a majority of the game as 1st ruck to be effective. 

The club should have learnt from the Preuss experiment.

I was at the preseason match v Richmond at Casey and yes it did seem to work quite well.

Maybe we will see it miraculously work again with big wins over the next three weeks 🤞


1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Well whoever their ruck is.

They don't have one

Let the record show we went times where we didn’t have any player go up for a ruck contest tonight and even worse had Petracca in the ruck.

All the while Schache was the sub but never got used and Grundy sat in the stands.

Gawn went forward and caused the Carlton defenders a lot of trouble (even with his poor kicking).  We could have done that more with Grundy in the team or at the very least as the sub.

Amateur hour.

I get why we didn’t play him. If we’d held on no one would have cared about it. I think we would have got more out of him than TMac, but I still get the thinking  

I don’t know if I’ll ever get why we played Schache as sub but didn’t use him, though.

 
1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

I get why we didn’t play him. If we’d held on no one would have cared about it. I think we would have got more out of him than TMac, but I still get the thinking  

I don’t know if I’ll ever get why we played Schache as sub but didn’t use him, though.

Tom did his spell in the ruck and a brief spell forward then rode the pine for most of the last.

Max rucked the end of the game straight.

Fritsch, Smith was the preferred forward line up. 

No need to sub Schache for Tom because the coaches had no interest in either of them up forward and that’s fine by me. 

Just now, DeeSpencer said:

Tom did his spell in the ruck and a brief spell forward then rode the pine for most of the last.

Max rucked the end of the game straight.

Fritsch, Smith was the preferred forward line up. 

No need to sub Schache for Tom because the coaches had no interest in either of them up forward and that’s fine by me. 

McDonald should have been subbed at three quarter time. He couldn’t move all night.


15 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

McDonald should have been subbed at three quarter time. He couldn’t move all night.

He last quarter stint was no worse than the rest of his efforts and they didn’t trust Schache to do any better than that. 

1 minute ago, DeeSpencer said:

He last quarter stint was no worse than the rest of his efforts and they didn’t trust Schache to do any better than that. 

That’s the point, he was awful all night. 

Why pick Schache as sub if you aren’t going to sub him in for an ineffectual tall? If we don’t trust him to be better than McDonald’s first three quarters we should not have given him another contract.

Ffs

The season is a failure and we didn't back one of our key strategies 

I'd like to give Gawndy one more year, and actually give it a go...

Knowing us we let him go for peanuts 🥜 and will have no decent backup for a weary ageing legend....

7 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

That’s the point, he was awful all night. 

Why pick Schache as sub if you aren’t going to sub him in for an ineffectual tall? If we don’t trust him to be better than McDonald’s first three quarters we should not have given him another contract.

We shouldn't have given him another contract.

We didn't trust him to be better than Tommy Mc. That's hardly a surprise.

3/4 time, you know you need 10 minutes out of a tall. 5 in the ruck. 5 forward. Do you stick with Tom McDonald or bring on Schache. I'm sticking with Tom McDonald.


Is Brodie going to dump his MFC gear in a Brotherhood bin on the drive home tonight?

15 minutes ago, Billy said:

Sorry Brodie the MFC let you down

DID THEY WHAT!

5 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

We shouldn't have given him another contract.

We didn't trust him to be better than Tommy Mc. That's hardly a surprise.

3/4 time, you know you need 10 minutes out of a tall. 5 in the ruck. 5 forward. Do you stick with Tom McDonald or bring on Schache. I'm sticking with Tom McDonald.

I'm not.... T Mac is more cooked than a fly errantly landing on a BBQ! GONE!

I'm disappointed that the experiment was given 12ish games to work. Has to be the biggest trade bust of all time. Maybe our list management team will think twice, the next time goody has another bright idea.


10 minutes ago, picket fence said:

DID THEY WHAT!

What’s with the capitals??

For playing Tmac in both finals & being a liability 

For playing Shcache ahead of him

And for not even giving him a game when Gawn has a broken foot 

SO YEAH WE LET HIM DOWN!!!

4 minutes ago, Billy said:

What’s with the capitals??

For playing Tmac in both finals & being a liability 

For playing Shcache ahead of him

And for not even giving him a game when Gawn has a broken foot 

SO YEAH WE LET HIM DOWN!!!

Ah yes I was agreeing with that!

Just now, picket fence said:

Ah yes I was agreeing with that!

Whoops sorry 👍

lm a bit angry 

 
1 minute ago, Pipefitter said:

We chose to use Shache as an unused sub over Grundy. 

Yep Grundy SHOULD have been in the starting 22. WE WOULD HAVE WON! IMV!


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