Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted
53 minutes ago, McQueen said:

The AFL just now [censored] canning the idea of letting the Power use their pics - their future pics - is just them manipulating the competition again…. Jason Horne Francis is going to be made an example of.

Is this the beginning of the AFL trying to place more contract emphasis on high draft picks maintaining their obligations when they sign on the dotted line? 

You cannot change Rules Mid Trading Season. That is not on

  • Thanks 1

Posted
19 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

You cannot change Rules Mid Trading Season. That is not on

Contrary to your response… that’s exactly what they do. 😕

  • Like 1
  • Angry 1

Posted
9 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Contrary to your response… that’s exactly what they do. 😕

Doesn’t make it right and it shouldn’t happen. 
Amend the Rules at the end of Trading for next year. 
i would guess Salary Dumping would have the AFL rather concerned right now, that could get right out of control 

  • Like 2
Posted
20 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Doesn’t make it right and it shouldn’t happen. 
Amend the Rules at the end of Trading for next year. 
i would guess Salary Dumping would have the AFL rather concerned right now, that could get right out of control 

Nothing is hard and fast. 
 

But these DH’s are making this comp so contrived. 

  • Thanks 1
Posted
36 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Nothing is hard and fast. 
 

But these DH’s are making this comp so contrived. 

Agreed. And we must call them out 

Jeelong getting pick 7 is outrageous 

  • Like 1

Posted
6 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Agreed. And we must call them out 

Jeelong getting pick 7 is outrageous 

They are taking on $1.6m for a player GC is happy to let go.

I personally would not want that in our window. Yes, the pick is alluring but what other talent are they missing out on.

They are obviously managing their cap well but they have no stars in their prime so of course they can.

I hate Geelong but I don’t think there is nefarious play at work here; just tossers winning flags.

  • Like 2
Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Doesn’t make it right and it shouldn’t happen. 
Amend the Rules at the end of Trading for next year. 
i would guess Salary Dumping would have the AFL rather concerned right now, that could get right out of control 

It was created by the AFL, and now it is being exploited by teams who can manipulate the salary cap.

The bit that stinks the most for me (and yes the MFC will do it as well), is how the cats can take on a contract and smooth out the terms. The contract should be honoured in full under the current terms.

If that is possible why is pick 7 required to be traded out? Its a joke. The AFL is a joke when it comes to integrity of the competition.

Edited by Cheap Seats
  • Like 5
  • Thanks 1
Posted
9 hours ago, McQueen said:

Nothing is hard and fast. 
 

But these DH’s are making this comp so contrived. 

And then in a couple of months, will put the icing on the contrivance cake when they release their FIXture

  • Like 3

Posted

Looks like we are taking only 2 players in the draft and only trading in Grundy.

Unless someone else is traded out, we will need to delist one more, most likely Baker.

It seems we are looking to give our young players at Casey every chance and maybe preparing to target someone next year, by making salary cap space and having extra future picks. 

  • Like 6
Posted
22 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Looks like we are taking only 2 players in the draft and only trading in Grundy.

Unless someone else is traded out, we will need to delist one more, most likely Baker.

It seems we are looking to give our young players at Casey every chance and maybe preparing to target someone next year, by making salary cap space and having extra future picks. 

I think we're currently on track there Red. 4 out of the primary (Jackson, Bedford, Rosman, Hunt), 2 in (Grundy and Chandler upgrade) and 2 picks

  • Like 5

Posted
4 minutes ago, old55 said:

I think we're currently on track there Red. 4 out of the primary (Jackson, Bedford, Rosman, Hunt), 2 in (Grundy and Chandler upgrade) and 2 picks

Yes,  I made a mistake thinking Turner needed an upgrade.

I wonder if we would take Rosman as a rookie if available.

 

  • Like 1
Posted
9 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Yes,  I made a mistake thinking Turner needed an upgrade.

I wonder if we would take Rosman as a rookie if available.

 

Doesn't sound like we will. We thanked him for his contribution 

  • Like 1
Posted
8 minutes ago, old55 said:

Doesn't sound like we will. We thanked him for his contribution 

Pity, he was one I thought could kick on and his height and versatility would have been handy.

  • Like 4
Posted
3 hours ago, rpfc said:

 

I hate Geelong but I don’t think there is nefarious play at work here; just tossers winning flags.

It's not often you see nefarious and tossers in the same sentence.  An apt description nonetheless. 

  • Like 1
  • Haha 1
Posted
1 hour ago, old55 said:

I think we're currently on track there Red. 4 out of the primary (Jackson, Bedford, Rosman, Hunt), 2 in (Grundy and Chandler upgrade) and 2 picks

I’m happy with this. There just isn’t the talent we need available this year. If a speedy skilful outside mid or a star key forward was available we would go for it. I’d clear Oskar Baker’s spot and draft a developing ruck, but otherwise, Grundy, 2 top picks and the Chandler upgrade and go to work on improving from within. 

  • Like 3

Posted
1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Looks like we are taking only 2 players in the draft and only trading in Grundy.

Unless someone else is traded out, we will need to delist one more, most likely Baker.

It seems we are looking to give our young players at Casey every chance and maybe preparing to target someone next year, by making salary cap space and having extra future picks. 

So if we don't get Hunter, we'll re-sign Baker.

  • Like 1
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Cheap Seats said:

It was created by the AFL, and now it is being exploited by teams who can manipulate the salary cap.

The bit that stinks the most for me (and yes the MFC will do it as well), is how the cats can take on a contract and smooth out the terms. The contract should be honoured in full under the current terms.

If that is possible why is pick 7 required to be traded out? Its a joke. The AFL is a joke when it comes to integrity of the competition.

.

Edited by xman97
Sorry, wrong person reply
Posted
1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Looks like we are taking only 2 players in the draft and only trading in Grundy.

Unless someone else is traded out, we will need to delist one more, most likely Baker.

It seems we are looking to give our young players at Casey every chance and maybe preparing to target someone next year, by making salary cap space and having extra future picks. 

I've heard this a couple of times. Has anyone heard the club say we're only taking 2 picks?

I'm genuinely interested, as I've got them taking 3 or 4! If Chandler takes a primary list spot without us replacing his list spot, we've then got only 42 instead of 43 players like we had this year. Before the covid rules, you had to have 44 players all up excluding Cat B rookies. I've heard the covid rules are being scrapped, but I haven't heard if clubs are allowed to have less than 44 from 2023. If clubs do have to go back to 44 players, we'd need to add 4 in the draft, 2 rookie and Grundy. If Baker gets delisted, that's another we have to add.

That would make it 38 Primary List / 6 CAT A Rookies. 38 was the minimum primary list players you could have. You could also do 39 primary and 5 rookie, or 40 and 4 to make up that 44. 

  • Like 1

Posted

I don't see under any circumstance why we should re-sign Baker.

Another ruckman on our list is more important than a wingman/half back, who wasn't considered for selection this year.

  • Like 10
Posted
59 minutes ago, xman97 said:

I've heard this a couple of times. Has anyone heard the club say we're only taking 2 picks?

On Trade Radio, Cal said we would only be using two picks

  • Like 2

Posted
5 minutes ago, Matt said:

On Trade Radio, Cal said we would only be using two picks

Ok cheers. He's normally credible. It's either clubs can have less than the normal 44 players, or Cal is wrong in his calculations. Another scenario is the AFL has changed it's stance on the minimum 38 primary list spots. Maybe we're doing a 36 primary and 8 rookie. In that case, we'd be taking 4 in the rookie draft!

  • Like 2
Posted
5 hours ago, rpfc said:

They are taking on $1.6m for a player GC is happy to let go.

I personally would not want that in our window. Yes, the pick is alluring but what other talent are they missing out on.

They are obviously managing their cap well but they have no stars in their prime so of course they can.

I hate Geelong but I don’t think there is nefarious play at work here; just tossers winning flags.

Which they’re converting to a 4 x 600, a decent salary but maybe 250-300 per year extra. 
 

The dodgy part of the deal to me is Geelong having inside knowledge of every teams cap as their CEO was at the league office a year ago.

And of course the Suns continued incompetence. They could’ve split their pick 7 with us or another side and sent Bowes to market with pick 15 or so. Plenty of clubs would’ve still taken him. Yet they don’t seem to have any idea how to negotiate 

  • Like 7
Posted
6 hours ago, rpfc said:

They are taking on $1.6m for a player GC is happy to let go.

I personally would not want that in our window. Yes, the pick is alluring but what other talent are they missing out on.

They are obviously managing their cap well but they have no stars in their prime so of course they can.

I hate Geelong but I don’t think there is nefarious play at work here; just tossers winning flags.

Jeelong should not be in a position to be able to pay that money for a nobody player with their current list. 
It cannot be above board. 

  • Like 3
  • Thanks 1
  • Vomit 1
Posted
17 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Jeelong should not be in a position to be able to pay that money for a nobody player with their current list. 
It cannot be above board. 

Getting the OK to pay it as $400k per year for 4 makes it easy. Totally wrong for HQ to allow though.

  • Angry 1
Posted
40 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Getting the OK to pay it as $400k per year for 4 makes it easy. Totally wrong for HQ to allow though.

Bowes is not going to accept that.

Maybe more like $600k per year for 3 years. He gets another year and another $200k.

  • Like 2

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #15 Ed Langdon

    The Demon running machine came back with a vengeance after a leaner than usual year in 2023.  Date of Birth: 1 February 1996 Height: 182cm Games MFC 2024: 22 Career Total: 179 Goals MFC 2024: 9 Career Total: 76 Brownlow Medal Votes: 5 Melbourne Football Club: 5th Best & Fairest: 352 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 8
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...