Trade and Free Agency rumours

[Adam The God 30,221]

12 minutes ago, mo64 said:

I don't think any clubs leak, but Player Agents have family, friends and contacts in the media. And divulging potential player movements prior to Trade Week doesn't haven't any impact on the end result.

I'm afraid that there will be no Big Fish landed. Maybe some guppies.

You're very negative aren't you?

[Demons11 7,008]

1 hour ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Absolutely not enough. We need pacey ball users. The players we are likely to lose need replacing with more quality, otherwise this list will completely plateau. We did not better the list last year, we need to this year. Grundy alone does not address one single issue we had this year. 

Completely plateau 🤦🏼‍♂️
 

Trac, Oliver, Petty, Kozzie, Spargs, Sparrow, Rivers will plateau, will they? None of these players are yet to hit their peak. 

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

5 minutes ago, A F said:

You're very negative aren't you?

Negative a.f

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

Anyways, there’s this weird thing going on in this thread that people buy into that if it’s not in the media overtly then nothing is happening?
 

Why do folk believe that the absence of reporting infers the absence of enquiry and that we (just like every other team) are looking at improving the list whilst trying to balance - $, roles that people will play, attributes, values etc etc with what the club wants vs what the individual desires… it’s just happening in the quiet (as it is with 90% of convos) 

I can’t imagine Nippy only received a call in the last 3 weeks from WCE… can you? 

[Adam The God 30,221]

3 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Anyways, there’s this weird thing going on in this thread that people buy into that if it’s not in the media overtly then nothing is happening?
 

Why do folk believe that the absence of reporting infers the absence of enquiry and that we (just like every other team) are looking at improving the list whilst trying to balance - $, roles that people will play, attributes, values etc etc with what the club wants vs what the individual desires… it’s just happening in the quiet (as it is with 90% of convos) 

I can’t imagine Nippy only received a call in the last 3 weeks from WCE… can you? 

This happens every year on Demeyland.

If the media doesn't link us to 3 or 4 players on the market, it means we're not looking at anyone.

Edited September 29, 2022 by A F

[rjay 24,917]

24 minutes ago, mo64 said:

I don't think any clubs leak, but Player Agents have family, friends and contacts in the media. And divulging potential player movements prior to Trade Week doesn't haven't any impact on the end result.

I'm afraid that there will be no Big Fish landed. Maybe some guppies.

Grundy is a very big fish if he lands...

[IRW 1,387]

9 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Completely plateau 🤦🏼‍♂️
 

Trac, Oliver, Petty, Kozzie, Spargs, Sparrow, Rivers will plateau, will they? None of these players are yet to hit their peak. 

I hope Kozzie Spargo  Sparrow and Rivers are a long long way from their peaks because they weren't much help this season

[Adam The God 30,221]

Just now, IRW said:

I hope Kozzie Spargo  Sparrow and Rivers are a long long way from their peaks because they weren't much help this season

A 40 goal forward in his third year was not much help? FMD.

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

1 hour ago, CYB said:

Hmmm. Freo will finish top 8 again so it’ll be a late first rounder you’d think. It feels the point value is still unders. 

I wouldn't be so sure.

Can see Freo missing next year given the amount of best 22 players they're about to lose plus Mundy. 

They had a dream run with injuries most of the year, (bar Fyfe who is past his prime) and will also have a much more difficult draw next year.

In my eyes they'll be the most vulnerable of this years top 8. Can see them finishing as high as 7th and as low as 10th.

So if we get a future first round pick for Jackson, I'd be quietly confident it'll end up being a top 11 pick which will be great for next year's bumper crop. Plus we'll have our first rounder so will have a bit to play with.

Edited September 29, 2022 by JimmyGadson

[deelusions from afar 1,810]

41 minutes ago, Cheap Seats said:

Pick 7 for Lobb and change.

Pick 7 to dees with Freo 1st for Jackson.

Funny how it all works out.

 

If it pans out like that I'd say the deals were  done a while ago.

 

You might be right CS.  Wouldn't be terrible for us given next years draft is "reportedly" stronger than this years and as others have noted, there's good reason to think Freo will slip a bit next year.

If that does play out (we get pick 7) it will be interesting if we try to move further up the order - if we do it will suggest we have our eye on someone at the pointy end. 

[Demons11 7,008]

10 minutes ago, IRW said:

I hope Kozzie Spargo  Sparrow and Rivers are a long long way from their peaks because they weren't much help this season

🙄thanks for your insights troll 

[Demons11 7,008]

10 minutes ago, A F said:

A 40 goal forward in his third year was not much help? FMD.

We have some very average supporters 

[IRW 1,387]

12 minutes ago, A F said:

A 40 goal forward in his third year was not much help? FMD.

He still didn't take mark of the year,try as he may. 

A lot of room for improved and effected consistency .

I concede I marked him hard...

[IRW 1,387]

5 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

🙄thanks for your insights troll 

I  concede a little on Kossie but do you think the others had good seasons...cobber

Were you the one that said early days in the finals that Geelong and Collingwood were crepe and the Dee's would walk right through them? 

Or are you just one of the duffers who can't see the difference between supporting and ignoring the obvious? 

....cobber 

...

[Adam The God 30,221]

7 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

We have some very average supporters 

We do, but everyone does.

[Demon Disciple 12,120]

7 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

We have some very average supporters 

Our boys gave everything and then some this year. If ‘supporters’ aren’t happy, blame the coaches not the players. 

[mo64 5,874]

50 minutes ago, A F said:

You're very negative aren't you?

Whilst all other potential trades are out in the open, we're secretly hiding some blockbuster move. Yeah right.

And I'm sure you were one of those that didn't believe that Jackson was leaving.

[rjay 24,917]

3 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Whilst all other potential trades are out in the open, we're secretly hiding some blockbuster move. Yeah right.

And I'm sure you were one of those that didn't believe that Jackson was leaving.

We usually have no surprises so as far as trades go it's Grundy.

No other blockbuster move.

The big issue is what we get for Jackson and how much we give for Grundy.

I would expect there to be nothing else for us in trade week.

...but

[Redleg 40,899]

8 hours ago, Redleg said:

If you read the tea leaves, it's sounding like Brad Scott will be the Bombers Coach and probably announced soon.

If he says he wants it, the process just flew out the window.

IMO, Yze had the job, unless Scott said he would do it.

 

Ethan the news breaker gazumped again. Where were you and what are you doing?

You can’t have old Redleg continually beating you to the news. We know you are the best, so pull your finger out.

[mo64 5,874]

3 minutes ago, rjay said:

We usually have no surprises so as far as trades go it's Grundy.

No other blockbuster move.

The big issue is what we get for Jackson and how much we give for Grundy.

I would expect there to be nothing else for us in trade week.

...but

And that's exactly what I said, and for some reason was called "negative".

I'm sure we'll be involved with some draft pick swaps, which will get some Demonlanders excited.

[Adam The God 30,221]

10 minutes ago, mo64 said:

And I'm sure you were one of those that didn't believe that Jackson was leaving.

I don't think I had a strong opinion on it actually.

[Redleg 40,899]

8 hours ago, Redleg said:

If you read the tea leaves, it's sounding like Brad Scott will be the Bombers Coach and probably announced soon.

If he says he wants it, the process just flew out the window.

IMO, Yze had the job, unless Scott said he would do it.

 

What an absolute farce.

Scott has interview today and appointed later the same day.

Why have a Coaching Committee? Just appoint the first senior Coach who is prepared to do the job.

Complete joke and waste of time for people like Yze and other applicants and probably a distraction for their clubs as well.

The media hype will now kick in. 

 

[binman 42,903]

52 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

I wouldn't be so sure.

Can see Freo missing next year given the amount of best 22 players they're about to lose plus Mundy. 

They had a dream run with injuries most of the year, (bar Fyfe who is past his prime) and will also have a much more difficult draw next year.

In my eyes they'll be the most vulnerable of this years top 8. Can see them finishing as high as 7th and as low as 10th.

So if we get a future first round pick for Jackson, I'd be quietly confident it'll end up being a top 11 pick which will be great for next year's bumper crop. Plus we'll have our first rounder so will have a bit to play with.

I was of the view that they are on the upward trajectory and would push for top 4 next year.

But you make a good points about the players they will lose.

Lobb is flakey, but he is important structurally and was their best tall forward.

And mundy, even at his age, was super important because, one he gets the pill and two they lack big bodied mids.

The other thing is I wonder if beinging Jackson in on mega coin might create problems in the playing group.

I'm tipping the pies to miss the 8.

 

[rjay 24,917]

15 minutes ago, mo64 said:

And that's exactly what I said, and for some reason was called "negative".

I'm sure we'll be involved with some draft pick swaps, which will get some Demonlanders excited.

Where you are seen as negative is not seeing Grundy as a big fish.

He is and it is a blockbuster move to get him.

I think that's exciting.

I also think it more than interesting to see where our draft hand finishes up.

[bing181 9,218]

2 hours ago, Deecisive said:

The main issue i have at the moment is that i am not seeing any other conversations or rumors about melbourne chasing any other players, with a league of 17 other teams of maybe 40 players each we only have one target?

Last year, there were 10 players who changed clubs*. No club traded in more than one player, and around half the clubs didn't trade in anyone. If we trade in even one player, we're already batting above average. Further, that that player is someone of Grundy's calibre is a huge tick for the club.

* And half of those traded players had been delisted, so you'd be taking a punt on them.