20 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I am not sure that just because you play in the AFL you have to be a role model. I understand the bit about not bringing the game into disrepute, but being a role model is another level altogether. Even being a model citizen, doesn’t require you to be a role model.

Yeah, I am not to sure about the role model bit but Ginnivan is showing all the traits of being a proper Smarta*se.

42 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Not sure that makes this behaviour ok.

They were publicly objectifying girls on the internet. This isn't private locker room talk. These guys are role models.

Not saying the behaviour is okay by any stretch. 

I'm just saying that this behaviour now is very popular amongst the younger generation in both male and female especially with tik tok and other social media platform that provides that gateway for this kind of stuff.

For anyone who want to read further on the actual trend they were participating in this link explains a bit further.

https://www.bustle.com/life/tiktok-rating-game-trend

13 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Not saying the behaviour is okay by any stretch. 

I'm just saying that this behaviour now is very popular amongst the younger generation in both male and female especially with tik tok and other social media platform that provides that gateway for this kind of stuff.

For anyone who want to read further on the actual trend they were participating in this link explains a bit further.

https://www.bustle.com/life/tiktok-rating-game-trend

Thanks Dazzle, that is an interesting read, especially for someone like myself who is a social media luddite.

6 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Yeah, I am not to sure about the role model bit but Ginnivan is showing all the traits of being a proper Smarta*se.

Yeah but that's who he is? I don't think he deserves a character assassination over it and think some of the commentary around the way he conducts himself on field has been pretty unfair to be honest.

In a time where we're screaming for some character and spunk in the game, we have a kid who's doing exactly that and yet some are then quick to pot the kid.

He has arrogance for sure but so did Allan Jakovich, Stephen Milne, Jeff Farmer who all liked to show boat on field. 

I personally love it. Watching Shai Bolton the other night was great! I get it irritates people but it's great for the game.

Seems to not really be effecting his on field performance mind you. 22 goals from 11 games as a small forward would put him just behind Bayley Fritsch as one of our higher goal scorers..

16 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

The epitome of sanctimony 

Being a role model cant be easy for these kids ,but they have a responsabilty to themselves to behave in the public eye ,that comes with $ they get at such a young age.As a young boy I hung on every word RDB said and every VFL  player.The players of today all have responsabilty to set a good standard of behaviour

47 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah but that's who he is? I don't think he deserves a character assassination over it and think some of the commentary around the way he conducts himself on field has been pretty unfair to be honest.

In a time where we're screaming for some character and spunk in the game, we have a kid who's doing exactly that and yet some are then quick to pot the kid.

He has arrogance for sure but so did Allan Jakovich, Stephen Milne, Jeff Farmer who all liked to show boat on field. 

I personally love it. Watching Shai Bolton the other night was great! I get it irritates people but it's great for the game.

Seems to not really be effecting his on field performance mind you. 22 goals from 11 games as a small forward would put him just behind Bayley Fritsch as one of our higher goal scorers..

Why would one like Shai Bolton's efforts compared to Ginnivan's.

Is it the quieter beginning, the all round talent, the slight detection of mischief compared to arrogance?

Do I go on...

3 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

He is still a kid, so there's some chance he'll grow a few more brain cells.

De Gooey on the other hand, appears to be shedding them.

I use the "employable" gauge. As in, how likely is someone to be employed simply on the basis of how they look and present themselves? Body language? Behaviour? I'm not talking tattoos and hair. Just how they carry themselves and "look". De Goey and Ginnivan are what I called "The Unemployables". Otherwise knowm as "The Permanent Performance Plans" and "Chronically Late". They might win you games but dont be surprised if theyre seen slinging tricks at Mens Gallery on a Tuesday night. Tarrant was always going to turn it around. 

Major sponsors of AFL getting amongst it.. lol

 

20 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

So now you think he should be judged on his past record. Hope your not planning a career in the law. 

So you don't have a problem with him pulling down a woman's top?  I'm not convinced it was consensual at the time, given her reaction in the video.  

37 minutes ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

So you don't have a problem with him pulling down a woman's top?  I'm not convinced it was consensual at the time, given her reaction in the video.  

You will never convince some people KDF. 

43 minutes ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

So you don't have a problem with him pulling down a woman's top?  I'm not convinced it was consensual at the time, given her reaction in the video.  

She certainly wasn't expecting it and her reaction certainly paints that way.

2 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

Yeah, I am not to sure about the role model bit but Ginnivan is showing all the traits of being a proper Smarta*se.

Someone on here knows his old man and wasn't impressed, be interested to hear more

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

I am not sure that just because you play in the AFL you have to be a role model. I understand the bit about not bringing the game into disrepute, but being a role model is another level altogether. Even being a model citizen, doesn’t require you to be a role model.

Kids most definitely look up to footballers whether the footballer wants to be or not they are looked up to and if they publicly display inappropriate behaviour then kids will believe that that behaviour is socially acceptable.

All players entering the system have the talk from the AFL and their club about social media and social responsibility. Yeah boys will be boys and everyone is doing it but that doesn't make it ok.

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah but that's who he is? I don't think he deserves a character assassination over it and think some of the commentary around the way he conducts himself on field has been pretty unfair to be honest.

In a time where we're screaming for some character and spunk in the game, we have a kid who's doing exactly that and yet some are then quick to pot the kid.

He has arrogance for sure but so did Allan Jakovich, Stephen Milne, Jeff Farmer who all liked to show boat on field. 

I personally love it. Watching Shai Bolton the other night was great! I get it irritates people but it's great for the game.

Seems to not really be effecting his on field performance mind you. 22 goals from 11 games as a small forward would put him just behind Bayley Fritsch as one of our higher goal scorers..

There is a difference in displaying a bit of arrogance in the way Jakovich and Farmer did and the way in which Ginnivan is going about it . I won't make any comment on Milne, but each to their own I suppose, I reckon I know who would most likely get a smack in the mouth for being a smarta*se.

30 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

There is a difference in displaying a bit of arrogance in the way Jakovich and Farmer did and the way in which Ginnivan is going about it . I won't make any comment on Milne, but each to their own I suppose, I reckon I know who would most likely get a smack in the mouth for being a smarta*se.

I beg to differ. 

Each to their own I suppose.

[censored] of the highest order. 
His career in tatters

A true Filth representative. 
If he had stayed home he would have made a few $ mill

Hahaha. You can F Up once in my opinion, but twice, no sympathy 

See ya

3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

[censored] of the highest order. 
His career in tatters

A true Filth representative. 
If he had stayed home he would have made a few $ mill

Hahaha. You can F Up once in my opinion, but twice, no sympathy 

See ya

Been more then twice now.

1 hour ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

So you don't have a problem with him pulling down a woman's top?  I'm not convinced it was consensual at the time, given her reaction in the video.  

I don't have a problem with consenting adults interacting. And if the woman said she had no problem or issues about the event its not my nor yours nor Old Dee or DD's business to be telling them how to behave.

In Contrast, this is how Jake Lever spent his mid year break, in Bright 

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Been more then twice now.

2 Big Ones

3 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

I don't have a problem with consenting adults interacting. And if the woman said she had no problem or issues about the event its not my nor yours nor Old Dee or DD's business to be telling them how to behave.

But as a Representative of a “Public” Company De Goey has Trashed his Club, so he is a complete tool and it ain’t the first time. 
If he had ONE FUNCTIONING BRAIN CELL, he would have kept a low profile and stayed home. 
But now he has made himself unemployable in this industry 

 

flipping burgers is a long way down 

 

 

Jon Ralph jumps gun... was too eager for blood?

Suspended fine = Clayton's penalty, which is punishment fitting the (non-)crime