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his kick out to sparrow at the start of the last quarter of the grannie was a thing of great skill and vision. he’s a beauty 

 
2 hours ago, joeboy said:

We were about 20 goals up in the last quarter of the granny and the forwards were celebrating yet another match sealing goal, when ANB came running in and seemingly admonished the players that the job wasn’t done yet. Respectfully, they immediately focused back on the job at hand.

Now THAT’S the mark of a leader!

Twice in the last quarter ANB addressed the players. It was telling how influential he was to the players around him. They stopped and listened.

An on field leader of great value to our team.

 

ANB, selfless team mate and leader. Great listen. 

 
6 hours ago, Demonstone said:

Lyon:  "Narrm, spelled N-A-R-M-M".

Other bloke:  "Wrong, it's spelled N-A-A-R-M".

Disappointing how dismissive they seemed about it, ANB handled it very well.

The fact that a team like GC or NM didn’t pick him up for nothing at the end of 2020 is an indictment on their judgement.

Great professional.


Not only did NM not pick him up but they gave us BBB. Is this worse than MFC's dark days?

27 minutes ago, rpfc said:

The fact that a team like GC or NM didn’t pick him up for nothing at the end of 2020 is an indictment on their judgement.

Great professional.

But not an indictment on us for offering him up for nothing?

43 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

But not an indictment on us for offering him up for nothing?

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Great stuff from Nibbler. I have an inkling his impact post-playing is going to be significant, and hopefully in the football world. Future leadership role in football/AFL at a national level beckons. I met him (and his BM Billy Stretch at a Football art exhibition the week of that dreaded prelim in Perth). Was mighty impressive then, as was Billy, interested, engaged, humble and articulate. Not surprised at the player/leader he’s become.
Love the NARRM and what it represents - bricks in the wall of respect, legacy and attribution. The massive contribution of Indigenous Australia to football was underappreciated if not blatantly neglected for 95% of its history. Anything and everything that can be done to redress that now is mighty welcome. As a middle-aged white male myself, my question always to the naysayers is - where’s the harm? Yet to hear a sensible answer. 

53 minutes ago, Doggas front teeth said:

Indigenous Australians have played such an important and fantastic role in both our sport and our club, and the renaming of the club for 2 (!!!) weeks is an attempt to bring back some of that culture and language that has otherwise been completely stamped out. I for one had no idea Melbourne's traditional name was Narrm before this announcement.

Indeed.

Prior to colonization, the number of indigenous languages amounted to thousands of different dialects. As you mentioned, some languages are only kept alive by the efforts of individual speakers. I know that Stan Grant's late father at one stage was one of the very few speakers left of the Wiradjuri language and the work he did trying to preserve it got him a Master of Letters from Charles Sturt University.

Even until recent times, there has been active attempts at government level to stamp out the linguistic heritage of Indigenous peoples. In the early '00's, Walpiri children were taught bilingually (both in English and Walpiri) as the results suggested that doing so helped with adjustment and better life outcomes. Teachers were also encouraged to engage in traditional rituals with those in the community. However, there was backlash coming from non-indigenous politicians in Darwin in which bilingual education was actively resisted (I can't remember if it was abolished entirely at that stage) and the aforementioned teachers were admonished for 'getting out into the desert and taking their gear off'. 😒

My complaint with the AFL until recently is that a lot of what happens could be considered largely symbolic. We do two weeks of  welcome to country, a few ceremonies and then the show moves on. There has been no hard look at who we have been as a nation for better or worse. The apology, while a milestone, also dismissed the potentiality of financial restitution for those affected by child separations. New Zealand founded it's nation on a treaty with the Maori people (though it should be mentioned that since that time a lot of Maori people have been dispossessed), have been involved in compensation through the Waitangi Tribunal since 1975 and have been miles ahead of where we are in terms of acknowledging the existence and sovreignity of their first nations people. If anything, we haven't done enough.

Will rebranding ourselves for merely 2 weeks create instant redress for the injustices delivered upon indigenous people in Australia? No. But is us playing our part in advancing what is a gradual and incremental process a negative? Not in the slightest. We need all hands on deck advocating for greater inclusion, acceptance and mutual respect. As John Pilger said in 'Utopia', no major political party in Australia has ever gone to the polls actively campaigning for an improvement in life outcomes for indigenous people. Clearly, the impetus for a seachange in values needs to come from other areas.

P.S. I intend on buying some of the Narrm merchandise this arvo.

Edited by Colin B. Flaubert


20 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

New Zealand founded it's nation on a treaty with the Maori people (though it should be mentioned that since that time a lot of Maori people have been dispossessed), have been involved in compensation through the Waitangi Tribunal since 1975 and have been miles ahead of where we are in terms of acknowledging the existence and sovreignity of their first nations people.

And they had only occupied the land for a measly 800 years or so! Beautifully summed up, CBF. 

I have always loved ANB's attitude and selfless approach to his beloved Demons. Works so hard week in and week out. Such a leader as our unofficial forwards coach. It is quite obvious he is highly respected and regarded by his teammates. Maxy , in his book was full of praise for Nibbler finishing with the words, "You don't win flags without guys like nibbler." Highest praise indeed and well earned. Thank you Alex.

Both ANB & TMac hit a fork in the road end of 2020. Great to see them both lift their games, TMac back to his best of prior years and ANB to have his best year.

After a setback you choose what happens in the future and credit to both how they came back and gave everything to succeed.

ANB was very impressive, not only did he answer the questions he then explained the relevance to our team.

Go mighty Demons!!

Impressive interview with ANB. He won me over last year (aside from his on-field performances), when asked what would he like to be his legacy from his time at the MFC? His response was “to try and ensure that club was in a better place than it was when he joined” I loved that selfless response


As we know he really stepped things up last season.  Appears he may have taken things to yet another level in 2022 with a 31% overall improvement on last year's weighted (statistical averages) score.

Has really blossomed into a reliable key role player who makes a difference on most game days assisting other team mates to carry out their roles more effectively.

Interesting to note a significant drop off in inside 50s (hence less tackles inside 50 even though overall tackle average is up!) and clearances.  On the flip side rebound 50s, intercepts and score involvements are up substantially.  His disposal efficiency has also improved substantially and now super close to AFL standard from a pretty low 63% last season.  Could this mean a bit of a role change this season where he is being asked to push back a little deeper to help out down back?  Also spending less time at the coal face (clearances down) allowing him to get involved in more scoring chains (score involvements up) and put his energy to good use with more accurate disposals in general?

My only worry here is...who (if anyone) is making up the drop off inside 50 from a pressure (tackle) perspective which is quite a substantial average differential (ie; down 1.4 tackles each match)?

(Note:  take no notice of the contested mark % increase as it's coming off an extremely low 2021 average).

#30 A Neil Bullen 2021 2022 % Change 
CP 6.64 7.13 7.3
UP 9.36 11.38 21.5
ED 9.77 13.00 33.1
DE% 62.97 72.86 9.9
CM 0.09 0.25 177.8
Mi50 0.59 0.63 5.9
1% 1.27 1.13 -11.4
CL 1.91 0.88 -54.2
R50 0.68 1.00 47.1
i50 4.00 3.13 -21.9
T 4.55 5.13 12.6
Si 4.32 6.75 56.3
MG 265.09 252.38 -4.8
TO 3.91 3.75 -4.1
ITC 1.86 2.88 54.6
T50 1.91 0.50 -73.8
TOG% 74.59 82.38 7.8
G 0.59 0.25 -57.6
Weighted Score 2.387 3.138 31.5

Edited by Demon Dynasty

11 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

As we know he really stepped things up last season.  Appears he may have taken things to yet another level in 2022 with a 31% overall improvement on last year's weighted (statistical averages) score.

Has really blossomed into a reliable key role player who makes a difference on most game days assisting other team mates to carry out their roles more effectively.

Interesting to note a significant drop off in inside 50s (hence less tackles inside 50 even though overall tackle average is up!) and clearances.  On the flip side rebound 50s, intercepts and score involvements are up substantially.  His disposal efficiency has also improved substantially and now super close to AFL standard from a pretty low 63% last season.  Could this mean a bit of a role change this season where he is being asked to push back a little deeper to help out down back?  Also spending less time at the coal face (clearances down) allowing him to get involved in more scoring chains (score involvements up) and put his energy to good use with more accurate disposals in general?

My only worry here is...who (if anyone) is making up the drop off inside 50 from a pressure (tackle) perspective which is quite a substantial average differential?

(Note:  take no notice of the contested mark % increase as it's coming off an extremely low 2021 average).

#30 A Neil Bullen 2021 2022 % Change 
CP 6.64 7.13 7.3
UP 9.36 11.38 21.5
ED 9.77 13.00 33.1
DE% 62.97 72.86 9.9
CM 0.09 0.25 177.8
Mi50 0.59 0.63 5.9
1% 1.27 1.13 -11.4
CL 1.91 0.88 -54.2
R50 0.68 1.00 47.1
i50 4.00 3.13 -21.9
T 4.55 5.13 12.6
Si 4.32 6.75 56.3
MG 265.09 252.38 -4.8
TO 3.91 3.75 -4.1
ITC 1.86 2.88 54.6
T50 1.91 0.50 -73.8
TOG% 74.59 82.38 7.8
G 0.59 0.25 -57.6
Weighted Score 2.387 3.138 31.5

His tackling is up tho so it just means he is pressuring higher up the ground. We just have let it out of our D50 easier this year. Keep in mind teams are scared to do much more than kick it short back there, and then it gets out to 80m from goal and we turn it back there. But our pressure has been down this year in the forward half and I think that it’s hard to be as ‘up’ and intense as they were last year…

On 5/17/2022 at 12:30 AM, Fork 'em said:

Whereas I'll just stick to Melbourne, thanks.

Agree. I think we have enough virtue signaling to go around for everyone else. I’ll celebrate indigenous footballers without pretending we are the Narm football club

8 minutes ago, Munga said:

Agree. I think we have enough virtue signaling to go around for everyone else. I’ll celebrate indigenous footballers without pretending we are the Narm football club

How will you celebrate them?

1 minute ago, rpfc said:

How will you celebrate them?

1. Go to the game .

2. Acknowledge and cheer them on as I always do. Pretty simple stuff really 


14 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

As we know he really stepped things up last season.  Appears he may have taken things to yet another level in 2022 with a 31% overall improvement on last year's weighted (statistical averages) score.

Has really blossomed into a reliable key role player who makes a difference on most game days assisting other team mates to carry out their roles more effectively.

Interesting to note a significant drop off in inside 50s (hence less tackles inside 50 even though overall tackle average is up!) and clearances.  On the flip side rebound 50s, intercepts and score involvements are up substantially.  His disposal efficiency has also improved substantially and now super close to AFL standard from a pretty low 63% last season.  Could this mean a bit of a role change this season where he is being asked to push back a little deeper to help out down back?  Also spending less time at the coal face (clearances down) allowing him to get involved in more scoring chains (score involvements up) and put his energy to good use with more accurate disposals in general?

My only worry here is...who (if anyone) is making up the drop off inside 50 from a pressure (tackle) perspective which is quite a substantial average differential (ie; down 1.4 tackles each match)?

(Note:  take no notice of the contested mark % increase as it's coming off an extremely low 2021 average).

#30 A Neil Bullen 2021 2022 % Change 
CP 6.64 7.13 7.3
UP 9.36 11.38 21.5
ED 9.77 13.00 33.1
DE% 62.97 72.86 9.9
CM 0.09 0.25 177.8
Mi50 0.59 0.63 5.9
1% 1.27 1.13 -11.4
CL 1.91 0.88 -54.2
R50 0.68 1.00 47.1
i50 4.00 3.13 -21.9
T 4.55 5.13 12.6
Si 4.32 6.75 56.3
MG 265.09 252.38 -4.8
TO 3.91 3.75 -4.1
ITC 1.86 2.88 54.6
T50 1.91 0.50 -73.8
TOG% 74.59 82.38 7.8
G 0.59 0.25 -57.6
Weighted Score 2.387 3.138 31.5

I'm a bit nervous asking this question, but what does ED stand for? Also, what's ITC?

As to ANB's role, he's been at a few centre clearances this year. I don't recall him having that role at any stage last year. That may affect some of his numbers.

57 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm a bit nervous asking this question, but what does ED stand for? Also, what's ITC?

As to ANB's role, he's been at a few centre clearances this year. I don't recall him having that role at any stage last year. That may affect some of his numbers.

All good LDC...

ED = Effective Disposals

ITC = Intercepts

Edited by Demon Dynasty

53 minutes ago, Munga said:

1. Go to the game .

2. Acknowledge and cheer them on as I always do. Pretty simple stuff really 

So not much then.

Good the club and others are doing more I guess.

 
1 hour ago, rpfc said:

So not much then.

Good the club and others are doing more I guess.

This is a footy forum, your political view point can be expressed in other venues, as previously requested by the primary administrator.

I really don't understand this concept of any footballer not speaking like a bogan being considered articulate. ANB says a whole bunch of weird stuff during that interview and with some seriously messed-up phrasing. I will give him the benefit of the doubt for being nervous, and no doubt he is intelligent, but let's not pretend he is a master orator and future leader based on that. 


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