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Ladder postion

Sam ARBER
in Melbourne Demons

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We are playing third against fourth tomorrow.

Behind on percentage despite being undefeated.

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    We have North and the Eagles to come in the next two. Even if we lose tomorrow , we’ll get it back. But it won’t stop the media from calling us down bill skiers coz we haven’t beaten anyone yet. 

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    Well we haven't. We have been having a free ride so far this year and we need to show Teams what we can play like.The Media have been very fair to us and so have the umpires. I don't want any excuses..I want us to earn our place from now on and be careful of the back pushing, holding and NIL disputations.

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    1 hour ago, willmoy said:

    Well we haven't. We have been having a free ride so far this year and we need to show Teams what we can play like.The Media have been very fair to us and so have the umpires. I don't want any excuses..I want us to earn our place from now on and be careful of the back pushing, holding and NIL disputations.

    We can only beat what is in front of us

     

    7-0

     

    Defending premiers…

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    3 hours ago, Sam ARBER said:

    We are playing third against fourth tomorrow.

    Behind on percentage despite being undefeated.

    are you serious ? in the real world we are not....

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    Win today we will be 2/3 games and % ahead of 4th.  Short of some major implosion we should finish the season top 4.

    We can keep our % up around the 150% if we continue to keep ops to our target of approx 60 points and we score 90 pts or there about.  And keep any losses to small margins.

    Our big opportunity for top 2 to stay ahead of Freo and Lions is that we are to play both teams twice.  Four 8pt games up for grabs. 

    We should beat both at the G.  Win one of their Home games and we are well on the way to top 2.  Drop 3 or 4 of those games and we are staring at Away finals in week 1 and possibly week 3 (the Prelim).

    Btw, Geelong has such an easy draw that they could very easily finish top 2☹️  We play them in round 18 at their kitty patch, so hopefully we win and reduce their chances of a top 2 and enhance ours.

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    It looks like the top 8 is nearly set.  Carlton could drop out and there is a small chance of Saints dropping out if they lose today.  Leaving Port, Pies or Bulldogs to come in. 

    I see the top 4 as Demons, Cats, Lions, Dockers.

    Tigers while likely to 5th to 8th could do some damage in the finals.

    Interesting times ahead.

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    7 hours ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

    We can only beat what is in front of us

     

    7-0

     

    Defending premiers…

    Then how come we are playing in the worst time for this round of matches.

    we are being treated as if we have no substance and are of no account

    by the AFL. And most commentators ignore our achievements as well

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    1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    Win today we will be 2/3 games and % ahead of 4th.  Short of some major implosion we should finish the season top 4.

    We can keep our % up around the 150% if we continue to keep ops to our target of approx 60 points and we score 90 pts or there about.  And keep any losses to small margins.

    Our big opportunity for top 2 to stay ahead of Freo and Lions is that we are to play both teams twice.  Four 8pt games up for grabs. 

    We should beat both at the G.  Win one of their Home games and we are well on the way to top 2.  Drop 3 or 4 of those games and we are staring at Away finals in week 1 and possibly week 3 (the Prelim).

    Btw, Geelong has such an easy draw that they could very easily finish top 2☹️  We play them in round 18 at their kitty patch, so hopefully we win and reduce their chances of a top 2 and enhance ours.

    How can they have an easy draw? They finished top 4 last year! 😤

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    29 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

    How can they have an easy draw? They finished top 4 last year! 😤

    Draw is based on 2021 ladder so originally it looked quite difficult.

    Still to play twice from 2021 :

    • GF Bulldgos.  Bulldogs have crashed.
    • PF Power - struggling to find form.
    • mid table Eagles - now entrenched at the bottom of the ladder
    • mid table Saints - going fairly well.

    So the Cats have been the big beneficiary of the 'upside down' ladder with lots of games vs those top and mid ladder teams who aren't so good this year but only 1 game vs the 2022 success stories like Freo and Carlton.

    Excluding the Saints if those teams were as good as last year the Cats could struggle to make the 8.  Hopefully, those teams find their 2021 form and give Geelong a run for their money, so to speak.

    But their schedule is hardly good prep for the finals.  Fine for their old bodies but not so great for hardened games going into September.

    Good luck to them.  Even if they make top 2 I doubt they will get to the GF. 

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    Our draw wasn't easy at the start of the year when it was first announced. From last year 2nd, 16th, 8th, 3rd, 6th, 12th and 14th in the first 7 games.  When you finish first you aren't going to play anyone above you.  4 out of last years top 8 in the first 5 rounds was about as difficult as anyone preseason.  Degree of difficulty of draws ebbs and flows throughout the season - form, availability, incentive at different times all come into it.  Just take them as they come and the ladder looks after itself.  There are a standout top 3 and we are in that group, and as was stated earlier in this thread we all play each other twice.  It couldn't be fairer than that.

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    2 minutes ago, Swooper1987 said:

    Our draw wasn't easy at the start of the year when it was first announced. From last year 2nd, 16th, 8th, 3rd, 6th, 12th and 14th in the first 7 games.  When you finish first you aren't going to play anyone above you.  4 out of last years top 8 in the first 5 rounds was about as difficult as anyone preseason.  Degree of difficulty of draws ebbs and flows throughout the season - form, availability, incentive at different times all come into it.  Just take them as they come and the ladder looks after itself.  There are a standout top 3 and we are in that group, and as was stated earlier in this thread we all play each other twice.  It couldn't be fairer than that.

    Freo vs Lions happens once but your overall point is valid.

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    5 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    Draw is based on 2021 ladder so originally it looked quite difficult.

    Still to play twice from 2021 :

    • GF Bulldgos.  Bulldogs have crashed.
    • PF Power - struggling to find form.
    • mid table Eagles - now entrenched at the bottom of the ladder
    • mid table Saints - going fairly well.

    So the Cats have been the big beneficiary of the 'upside down' ladder with lots of games vs those top and mid ladder teams who aren't so good this year but only 1 game vs the 2022 success stories like Freo and Carlton.

    Excluding the Saints if those teams were as good as last year the Cats could struggle to make the 8.  Hopefully, those teams find their 2021 form and give Geelong a run for their money, so to speak.

    But their schedule is hardly good prep for the finals.  Fine for their old bodies but not so great for hardened games going into September.

    Good luck to them.  Even if they make top 2 I doubt they will get to the GF. 

    Only reason why people will think they are still contenders, easy draw. Reality is Cats time is up!

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    Looking at the ladder now with regards to percentage, we are in such a strong position because both the Lions and Freo have played North & the Eagles.

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    9 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    Win today we will be 2/3 games and % ahead of 4th.  Short of some major implosion we should finish the season top 4.

    We can keep our % up around the 150% if we continue to keep ops to our target of approx 60 points and we score 90 pts or there about.  And keep any losses to small margins.

    Our big opportunity for top 2 to stay ahead of Freo and Lions is that we are to play both teams twice.  Four 8pt games up for grabs. 

    We should beat both at the G.  Win one of their Home games and we are well on the way to top 2.  Drop 3 or 4 of those games and we are staring at Away finals in week 1 and possibly week 3 (the Prelim).

    Btw, Geelong has such an easy draw that they could very easily finish top 2☹️  We play them in round 18 at their kitty patch, so hopefully we win and reduce their chances of a top 2 and enhance ours.

    Surely when they sh7t themselves in the last quarter it will be kitty litter. 

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