3 hours ago, faultydet said:

We are ALL entitled to an opinion, and thankfully this site allows us to express it provided we don't go throwing abuse at each other.

I think the club (and League) is doing more than enough to recognize our indigenous people and don't think the name change is necessary. Am I getting worked up over it? Not at all, and certainly not as much as you are about someone expressing an opinion you don't like.

Please refrain from asking me to keep mine to myself from this point forward

faulty.

I am worked up? Ok. And I said I would prefer you keep it to yourself; entirely your prerogative to make it known how you feel about something like this.

I, and plenty of other Demons, love what we are doing for those whose land always is and always was.

rp

 

5 hours ago, rpfc said:

I am worked up? Ok. And I said I would prefer you keep it to yourself; entirely your prerogative to make it known how you feel about something like this.

I, and plenty of other Demons, love what we are doing for those whose land always is and always was.

rp

 

Thanks rp, I would just add; you only have to listen to Steven May at the launch to understand how much it means to him/them. Comments regarding the jumper design is very much a personal taste thing.

I really like it for the story it tells; literally painted by a proud young indigenous woman.

Love this move

So we can’t chant Melbourne … Melbourne

That’s fine 

we will have to do

Narrmy Army…. Narrmy Army… !? 

 

Easiest switch from our standard would surely be:

"Naa-arrm clap clap clap"

I can't always hear the cheer squad from where I sit, but I'll be listening carefully and will follow their lead.

(Does anyone else remember the weird era where it became a two-clap chant?)

12 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

All good. How could I disagree with someone who has lil Alex as his avi? 😉

Pretty sure it's been there since about 2003!

38 minutes ago, deanox said:

Pretty sure it's been there since about 2003!

Which is strange as DL only came into existence in 2005. 😁

22 hours ago, Cards13 said:

*Hocking did it for personal gain Ie $$$.

No he didn’t; he raised much needed cash for a club that were about $10m in debt at the time

24 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Which is strange as DL only came into existence in 2005. 😁

Not entirely true. Demonland just moved to these message boards in 2005. There are a few around here still that predate that move and deanox is one of them. 

Edited May 3, 20222 yr by Axis of Bob

3 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

Not true. Demonland just moved to these message boards in 2005. There are a few around here still that predate that move and deanox is one of them. 

I stand corrected. I hereby consider myself well and truly schooled. 🙂

10 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I stand corrected. I hereby consider myself well and truly schooled. 🙂 

Don't worry, it's an education not even worth the paper it's not printed on. 😁

1 hour ago, Axis of Bob said:

Not entirely true. Demonland just moved to these message boards in 2005. There are a few around here still that predate that move and deanox is one of them. 

Aimoo. Much nostalgia. 💀😭

1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Which is strange as DL only came into existence in 2005. 😁

Really, I thought it was much earlier than that. 

1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Which is strange as DL only came into existence in 2005. 😁

Sorry, just saw subsequent posts. I was reading demonland and demonology in the very early 2000s. For some reason Demonology made it through the government firewall but Demonland didn't.

Either way, Demonland and the MFC pales into significance vs the 40,000 years of our first nations people which is why it's great we are renaming ourselves Narrm as a way of showing our respects and helping the continuation of that culture!

9 hours ago, Left Foot Snap said:

Sorry, just saw subsequent posts. I was reading demonland and demonology in the very early 2000s. For some reason Demonology made it through the government firewall but Demonland didn't.

I'm trying to imagine why your Government agency's firewall would allow Demonology and not Demonland. It's OK to study demons but not go on a holiday to visit them? 

3 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm trying to imagine why your Government agency's firewall would allow Demonology and not Demonland. It's OK to study demons but not go on a holiday to visit them? 

Quite right.

Of course the real answer would lay in the coding platforms used by each. Land was more like a common forum build whereas that old Midnight set up ology used seemed to go unnoticed.  

But there is not a lot humour in that.

On 5/3/2022 at 8:51 AM, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm not sure they can. Clubs named after inner urban Melbourne suburbs, such as Collingwood, Carlton and Richmond are presumably a part of the same land as us and I imagine would also be part of Narrm. Perhaps interstate clubs and Geelong could do it should they choose. 

It's a great sign of how we're going that any of Collingwood, Carlton, Richmond etc could have got the jump on us and called themselves Narrm before us.

It seems that Collingwood and Richmond have their own Aboriginal names, so no need for them to assume ‘ours’. 
 

Ten previously forgotten Aboriginal names for 19th century sites and suburbs of Melbourne have been recently unearthed at the Melbourne Museum. These include the names for Fitzroy (Ngár-go), Richmond (Quo-yung), Collingwood (Yálla-birr-ang) and Brunswick (Bulleke-bek).

On 5/2/2022 at 10:10 AM, Deeoldfart said:

I love it.  Dees continuing to lead the way, both on and off the field.

Nailed it DOFart.

This club just does things so well these days.

This initiative is a credit to them because it comes from the heart.  And a chance to see the great Aaron Davey again. He used to terrify any player he was within 20m off - mantle now ably carried by Kozzie - as per the first 1/4 of the GF last year.

Frightened the Doggies into kicking to Jacko for Spargos goal.

On 5/3/2022 at 7:04 PM, dworship said:

Thanks rp, I would just add; you only have to listen to Steven May at the launch to understand how much it means to him/them. Comments regarding the jumper design is very much a personal taste thing.

I really like it for the story it tells; literally painted by a proud young indigenous woman.

Similarly, listening to Matty Wheelan and Flash Davey and it's clear how genuinely this initiative is appreciated by our indigenous brethren.

In particular I loved hearing Davey speak in the video put up by the club.  I had thought Davey was amoung those like Jnr,  Green etc that felt abandoned and offended by the club at the end of their careers when they were asked/told to ignominiously retire, however hearing him speak about Narrm Football Club the other day it was great to hear the passion and great affection that Flash still has for the club.

While I suspect it's not the only reason, the commitment, respect and embrace that we have extended towards to the indigenous culture at the club in recent times must help guys like Flash, May, Kossie, Toby and the other indigenous players we have on our list feel like they truely belong at the club, when they come from such a different cultural background and could otherwise easily feel somewhat like outsiders.

Also loved it when Jeffy Garlett was at the club and the whole team wore boots painted by him with indigenous art a few years back.

Edited May 4, 20222 yr by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

11 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Similarly, listening to Matty Wheelan and Flash Davey and it's clear how genuinely this initiative is appreciated by our indigenous brethren.

In particular I loved hearing Davey speak in the video put up by the club.  I had thought Davey was amoung those like Jnr,  Green etc that felt abandoned and offended by the club at the end of their careers when they were asked/told to ignominiously retire, however hearing him speak about Narrm Football Club the other day it was great to hear the passion and great affection that Flash still has for the club.

While I suspect it's not the only reason, the commitment, respect and embrace that we have extended towards to the indigenous culture at the club in recent times must help guys like Flash, May, Kossie, Toby and the other indigenous players we have on our list feel like they truely belong at the club, when they come from such a different cultural background and could otherwise easily feel somewhat like outsiders.

Also loved it when Jeffy Garlett was at the club and the whole team wore boots painted by him with indigenous art a few years back.

Doesn't Aaron Davey have about 603 sons? What ages are they now?

9 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Doesn't Aaron Davey have about 603 sons? What ages are they now?

Hmmm, not sure about that one, but it wouldn't take many as he's from pretty good sporting lineage obviously:

Brother Alwyn played 100 games for Essendon;

Cousin of Gavin Wanganeen and NBA star Patrick Mills

Sister Bronwyn played AFLW for the mighty Demons in the first exibition game against the Dogs

 

From what I can gather Aaron has 5 kids, 3 boys, 2 girls, so pleanty of superstars for both our sides respectively - so maybe in a few seasons, there'll be little red and blue Flashes out on the G again!!

Edited May 5, 20222 yr by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

20 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

I had thought Davey was amoung those like Jnr,  Green etc that felt abandoned and offended by the club at the end of their careers when they were asked/told to ignominiously retire, however hearing him speak about Narrm Football Club the other day it was great to hear the passion and great affection that Flash still has for the club.

Not to derail the thread, but I think PJ was pretty firm on Flash being treated with dignity on the way out. Hence, I believe he got some form of employment related to the club teed up and some type of recognition at our last game against the Dogs that year.

You are dead right on Junior and Green however. Their nose was rightly out of joint with how they were forced to retire.

4 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

Not to derail the thread, but I think PJ was pretty firm on Flash being treated with dignity on the way out. Hence, I believe he got some form of employment related to the club teed up and some type of recognition at our last game against the Dogs that year.

You are dead right on Junior and Green however. Their nose was rightly out of joint with how they were forced to retire.

Thanks Colin.  It's all a bit of a blur at times these days and so many things from that era we'd all rather forget if we could.

 

When something is more meaningful than you know, because you just don’t know. And that’s ok, but just get out of the way.

12 minutes ago, rpfc said:

 

When something is more meaningful than you know, because you just don’t know. And that’s ok, but just get out of the way.

How good was that!

Love what this club is doing and the way we conduct ourselves.

So proud to be a Dees fan and will be for life.