Jump to content

  • IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

    The Demonland Terms of Service, which you have all recently agreed to, strictly prohibit discussions of ongoing legal matters, whether criminal or civil. Please ensure that all discussions on this forum remain focused solely on on-field & football related topics.


Recommended Posts

Posted

I think the thread title says it all.

Our on-field successes have presented opportunities that we must capitalise on.

The Western Bulldogs from 2016 are held up to all AFL clubs as a textbook example of not converting the opportunities created by winning a flag.

Are we following in their footsteps?

Has our sponsorship remuneration come into line with a premiership winning club? My mail would indicate that we are not.

Are we cementing our foothold in Casey? Living in the area, I just don’t see it. The club has put minimal resources into Casey & there appears to still be some contempt towards the place in spite of the playing group embracing it.

What are we doing to convert young fans? Now is the time when kids will switch to follow the dees because kids follow winners. Are we making inroads at the junior levels?

I’m sure there’ll be the usual suspects blindly supporting the administration. I’ll be interested to hear any considered and/or informed responses.

  • Like 2

Posted
1 minute ago, Mach5 said:

I think the thread title says it all.

Our on-field successes have presented opportunities that we must capitalise on.

The Western Bulldogs from 2016 are held up to all AFL clubs as a textbook example of not converting the opportunities created by winning a flag.

Are we following in their footsteps?

Has our sponsorship remuneration come into line with a premiership winning club? My mail would indicate that we are not.

Are we cementing our foothold in Casey? Living in the area, I just don’t see it. The club has put minimal resources into Casey & there appears to still be some contempt towards the place in spite of the playing group embracing it.

What are we doing to convert young fans? Now is the time when kids will switch to follow the dees because kids follow winners. Are we making inroads at the junior levels?

I’m sure there’ll be the usual suspects blindly supporting the administration. I’ll be interested to hear any considered and/or informed responses.

We are more interested in hearing your side of the coin. 
You have a serious problem with the CEO but refuse to elaborate 

Fess up 

  • Like 6
  • Shocked 1
Posted

I should also say - there are a myriad of issues here, but all fall under the same general umbrella.

And producing a new line of cheap merch (that I’ll still buy) and supporter packages is not enough.

  • Like 1
  • Haha 1
Posted

I think the GF being in Perth last year is a blessing in disguise - we get the bounce from winning a flag / success but at the same time as most fans haven't seen it live, they're just as hungry as if we hadn't won it.  

 

I live in the West and I'm not sure if I agree with what you say about the dogs.  They are easily the most visible / dominant team out here.  Maybe they haven't converted into members but over time I think they will.  The dogs are very well placed strategically with the whole west to themselves!

  • Like 3
Posted
1 minute ago, Mach5 said:

I should also say - there are a myriad of issues here, but all fall under the same general umbrella.

And producing a new line of cheap merch (that I’ll still buy) and supporter packages is not enough.

Stop avoiding the topic 

You have serious issues with the CEO

Why, and what are they?

Until you provide answers i am sure most on here will take little or no notice of your  threads. 
We just won the Flag…

  • Like 2
Posted
8 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

Has our sponsorship remuneration come into line with a premiership winning club? My mail would indicate that we are not.

 

It would be disloyal of us to demand more $$ from our sponsors just after winning.  Sure, when it's time to renegotiate, and perhaps with some ongoing time at the top of the AFL world, we should attract and receive more remuneration.  But now is not the time. 

  • Like 5
Posted
1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Stop avoiding the topic 

You have serious issues with the CEO

Why, and what are they?

Until you provide answers i am sure most on here will take little or no notice of your  threads. 
We just won the Flag…


I won’t derail the thread by focusing on one person that you have an obsession with. Stick to the topic.

  • Haha 1
Posted
3 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

I think the GF being in Perth last year is a blessing in disguise - we get the bounce from winning a flag / success but at the same time as most fans haven't seen it live, they're just as hungry as if we hadn't won it.  

I get what you are saying in terms of hungry fans as we head into the 2022 season, but there's absolutely no blessing in the majority of diehard MFC members missing their side's first premiership live in 57 years.

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

Jeez, a bit early for all this discussion. We can't tell whether we've capitalised on our flag for another 3-5 years.

I can tell you right now it looks like we are sh*tting the bed behind the scenes. 
Now is when the work needs to be done.

Edited by Mach5
  • Haha 1
Posted

well until you come clean on your main obsession everything just looks like it's part of an agenda

you continually make claims but provide no facts, references or details

i'm waiting

  • Like 4
Posted
9 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

I think the GF being in Perth last year is a blessing in disguise - we get the bounce from winning a flag / success but at the same time as most fans haven't seen it live, they're just as hungry as if we hadn't won it.  

 

I live in the West and I'm not sure if I agree with what you say about the dogs.  They are easily the most visible / dominant team out here.  Maybe they haven't converted into members but over time I think they will.  The dogs are very well placed strategically with the whole west to themselves!


Agree on the opportunities presented to us.

The dogs example is one the AFL use, not mine. They made minimal money on the flag & didn’t convert many additional members. 

Posted
1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

well until you come clean on your main obsession everything just looks like it's part of an agenda

you continually make claims but provide no facts, references or details

i'm waiting

It’s only an obsession for others.

What facts or details are you after?

Posted

It is an issue that's related tour home. The split personality of the G and Casey does not help the message.

i have been a constant advocate ofFishermans Bend site as it provides a future population as a core base membership. I have reconciled that this is closer to the Spiritual home at the G than Casey. There is little prospect of expanding membership in CBD, East Melb, Richmond, the G precinct and little chance to identify with a broader population.

i think I read many years ago that our population concentration was actually in the Ringwood, NE metro region, not sure where it is now but I'm sure Admin know and will be looking how we expand.

i agree that we are now in a new environment with a winning team and we need to leverage off that to increase our engagement with kids. Players visiting schools is a great way to do this.

i also agree that if we are going to be apresence at Casey we should exploit our new status around that area. Even team jogging around the area will increase recognition and engagement.

i have found it encouraging that AFL marketing now includes red and blue players highlights, they can't ignore us, so there is a subliminal recognition that needs to be exploited.

A defined home location is essential to maximise our playing success.

A progressive and major development at FB would show that we are genuine in our promotion of new investments with long term aims to reinforce our position as the Melbourne central club

Posted

I know I'm capitalising on our on field success. Can't speak for anyone else. 

  • Like 7
  • Haha 4
Posted
13 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

I can tell you right now it looks like we are sh*tting the bed behind the scenes. 
Now is when the work needs to be done.

Can you explain what evidence you have to suggest we are doing that?

  • Like 6
Posted
18 minutes ago, Mach5 said:


I won’t derail the thread by focusing on one person that you have an obsession with. Stick to the topic.

One only has to go through your previous   Threads Mach, to know the real reason you are bringing up such points after a Premiership Year

i am sticking to the Topic, it is you who refuses to answer. 

  • Like 2
Posted
18 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

I can tell you right now it looks like we are sh*tting the bed behind the scenes. 
Now is when the work needs to be done.

Here we go again 

give us some solid facts…..

Stick to the Topic…

  • Like 1
Posted
4 minutes ago, dpositive said:

It is an issue that's related tour home. The split personality of the G and Casey does not help the message.

i have been a constant advocate ofFishermans Bend site as it provides a future population as a core base membership. I have reconciled that this is closer to the Spiritual home at the G than Casey. There is little prospect of expanding membership in CBD, East Melb, Richmond, the G precinct and little chance to identify with a broader population.

i think I read many years ago that our population concentration was actually in the Ringwood, NE metro region, not sure where it is now but I'm sure Admin know and will be looking how we expand.

i agree that we are now in a new environment with a winning team and we need to leverage off that to increase our engagement with kids. Players visiting schools is a great way to do this.

i also agree that if we are going to be apresence at Casey we should exploit our new status around that area. Even team jogging around the area will increase recognition and engagement.

i have found it encouraging that AFL marketing now includes red and blue players highlights, they can't ignore us, so there is a subliminal recognition that needs to be exploited.

A defined home location is essential to maximise our playing success.

A progressive and major development at FB would show that we are genuine in our promotion of new investments with long term aims to reinforce our position as the Melbourne central club


Richmond have been able to do it - a presence at Punt Rd and also hit the Cardinia region hard, even spreading into our region where they shouldn’t. They have carpet bombed the area & converted. Have we decided that it’s too hard? I don’t think they will ever say it, but I think at the top levels the decision has been made that Casey is too hard & it’s now just tokenistic to maintain funding from the City of Casey.

Posted
9 minutes ago, Wizard of Koz said:

weird, weird dude

I’m not interested in winning 1, then back to obscurity for 57 years. You don’t want a sustained period of success?

I don’t understand the blind faith.
Why are so many afraid to have a conversation?

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Monday 17th February 2025

    Demonland Trackwatchers were on hand at Monday morning's preseason training at Gosch's Paddock to bring you their brief observations of the session. HARVEY WALLBANGER'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Gentle flush session at Gosch's this morning. Absent: May, Pickett (All Stars) McVee, McAdam. Rehabbing: Great to see Kentfield back (much slimmer), walking with Tholstrup, TMac (suspect just a management thing), Viney (still being cautious with that rib cartilage?), Melksham (

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    MATCH SIM: Friday 14th February 2025

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers made their way out to Casey Field's for the Melbourne Football Club's Family Series day to bring you their observations on the Match Simulation. HARVEY WALLBANGER'S MATCH SIMULATION OBSERVATIONS Absent: May, Pickett (All Stars), McVee, Windor, Kentfield, Mentha Present but not playing: Petracca, Viney, Spargo, Tholstrup, Melksham Starting Blue 18 (+ just 2 interchange): B: Petty, TMac, Lever, Howes, Bowey Salem M: Gawn, Oliver, La

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Wednesday 12th February 2025

    Demonland Trackwatchers braved the scorching morning heat to bring you the following observations of Wednesday's preseason training session from Gosch's Paddock. HARVEY WALLBANGER'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Absent: Salem, Windsor (word is a foot rash going around), Viney, Bowey and Kentfield Train ons: Roy George, no Culley today. Firstly the bad news - McVee went down late, which does look like a bad hammy - towards the end of match sim, as he kicked the ball. Had to

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    MATCH SIM: Friday 7th February 2025

    Demonland Trackwatcher Gator ventured down the freeway to bring you his observations from Friday morning's Match Simulation out at Casey Fields. Rehab: Jake Lever and Charlie Spargo running laps.  Lever was running short distances at a fast click as well as having kick to kick with a trainer. He seems unimpeded. Christian Petracca, Kade Chandler, Shane McAdam and Tom Fullarton doing non-contact kicking and handball drills on the adjacent oval.  All moving freely at pace.  I didn’

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 2

    TRAINING: Wednesday 5th February 2025

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force as the Demons returned to Gosch's Paddock for preseason training on Wednesday morning. GHOSTWRITER'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Kozzie a no show. Tommy Sparrow was here last week in civvies and wearing sunnies. He didn’t train. Today he’s training but he’s wearing goggles so he’s likely got an eye injury. There’s a drill where Selwyn literally lies on top of Tracc, a trainer dribbles the ball towards them and Tracc has to g

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    THAT WAS THE YEAR THAT WAS: 2024

    Whichever way you look at it, the Melbourne Football Club’s 2024 season can only be characterized as the year of its fall from grace. Whispering Jack looks back at the season from hell that was. After its 2021 benchmark premiership triumph, the men’s team still managed top four finishes in the next two seasons but straight sets finals losses consigned them to sixth place in both years. The big fall came in 2024 with a collapse into the bottom six and a 14th placing. At Casey, the 2022 VFL p

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    MATCH SIM: Friday 31st January 2025

    Veteran Demonland Trackwatcher Picket Fence ventured down to Casey Fields to bring you his observations from Friday's Match Simulation. Greetings Demonlanders, beautiful Day at training and the boys were hard at it, here is my report. NO SHOWS: Luker Kentfield (recovering from pneumonia in WA), also not sure I noticed Melky (Hamstring) or Will Verrall?? MODIFIED DUTIES (No Contact): Sparrow, McVee (foot), Tracc (ribs), Chandler, (AC Joint), Fullarton Noticeable events (I’ll s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 2

    TRAINING: Wednesday 29th January 2025

    A number of Demonland Trackwatchers swooped on Gosch's Paddock to bring you their observations from this morning's Preseason Training Session. DEMON JACK'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Beautiful morning at Gosch's Paddock. Very healthy crowd so far.  REHAB: Fullerton, Spargo, Tholstrup, McVee Viney running laps. EDIT: JV looks to be back with the main group. Trac, Sparrow, Chandler and Verrell also training away from the main group. Currently kicking to each other ins

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 1

    TRAINING: Wednesday 22nd January 2025

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force for training at Gosch's Paddock on Wednesday morning for the MFC's School Holidays Open Training Session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS REHAB: TMac, Chandler, McVee, Tholstrup, Brown, Spargo Brown might have passed his fitness test as he’s back out with the main group.  Sparrow not present. Kozzy not present either.  Mini Rehab group has broken off from the match sim (contact) group: Max, Trac, Lever, Fullarton

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...