Farewell Luke Jackson

[Jjrogan 1,420]

14 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Draft night trading also

Or in about 10 years time.

Edited October 10, 2022 by Jjrogan

[mmwd6 220]

7 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

In 12 months time we will have a similar situation with JVR requesting a trade to the Eagles.

Huge dockers man JVR. He'd be hanging around their changerooms after games all of last year. 

[Jaded No More 68,880]

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

Something else will bob up now I reckon, perhaps something we haven't expected much.

We get deals done like this when we have something else to get on with I reckon.

I really hope you are right.

Mahoney was the king of this period. Not sure if we've lost our edge since he left. 

Edited October 10, 2022 by Jaded No More

[Redleg 40,889]

14 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

 

Freo got a good deal, but also gave everything that they had to give;

 

Not quite, they had North F2 and F3.

We could have at least got the North F2.

[layzie 33,793]

A lot of outrage on here at the moment. Wonder how talkback radio is going.

[dazzledavey36 54,826]

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

Something else will bob up now I reckon, perhaps something we haven't expected much.

We get deals done like this when we have something else to get on with I reckon.

I would hope so.

Right now my emotion is disappointed purely the fact that everything Tim Lamb had said from a stern and honest point of view is the opposite to what has happened. 

Probably why there's a sense of anger and frustration with Melbourne supporters it seem reading social media.

[DeeSpencer 25,658]

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Tim Lamb has really confused me with this.

Don't talk a big talk if you can't back it up Tim..

The reporting was very quickly 1 top 10 pick and a future first and our options closed as soon as the JHF deal came about.

Bedford has been traded for 44 but we’ve used that to get a future 2nd outright. We weren’t ever getting a better pick straight up for Toby. Nor do we care for any junk later picks thrown in.

Edited October 10, 2022 by DeeSpencer

[drysdale demon 4,830]

5 minutes ago, layzie said:

I'll go you one better, we need to assemble a panel of former MFC list managers and heads of the FD in the next 24 hrs who understand football and can hold Lamb accountable to his actions. In future they will also bar any trades that can't be justified, this will be known as the concil of MFC trading. 

Yeah sure, hahaha

[layzie 33,793]

The first position of two picks inside 10 was just not going to happen. Blind freddy could see that. 

[DeeSpencer 25,658]

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I would hope so.

Right now my emotion is disappointed purely the fact that everything Tim Lamb had said from a stern and honest point of view is the opposite to what has happened. 

Probably why there's a sense of anger and frustration with Melbourne supporters it seem reading social media.

So in the future do you want Lamb to ask for less and get less?

Because that seems unwise.

We got more than the Lever trade which was always going to be the benchmark for Jackson. 

[inanunda 351]

The Jackson trade points wise works out to be pick 2.

[kev martin 9,859]

Please,  no more interstate drafts unless we get a good indication that they will be one club players.

To some extent I am happy he has gone. I thought we could tell mid season that he had decided to go, as his form dropped (started getting the fumbles) and our losing started to happen, either, disruption or was an integral cog, I think it was disruption. 

Grundy will be a like for like replacement. So long as we give up to Collingwood as well.

I thought we folded our hand, and sent a message to other teams that we are soft dealers. 

 

 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I would hope so.

Right now my emotion is disappointed purely the fact that everything Tim Lamb had said from a stern and honest point of view is the opposite to what has happened. 

Probably why there's a sense of anger and frustration with Melbourne supporters it seem reading social media.

Yeah for sure. definitely feels like that right now. I'm just holding fire til we see what happens.

We've got this done 'early' in terms of the rush of the last few days, and things change so I wouldn't be surprised if something has come up in the meantime and we're getting on with business.

 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

3 minutes ago, mmwd6 said:

Huge dockers man JVR. He'd be hanging around their changerooms after games all of last year. 

Oh we will remember the LJ trade when it comes time for JVR. Freo don’t have a F1 anymore so best of luck to them. 
 

Hopefully we can sign JVR for a few additional years to prevent this from occurring.

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

[censored] people need to relax.

Nobody has any idea what the final analysis will look like so what is the point of complaining about specific draft picks. 

We got our haul and watch what happens either at the end of Wednesday night or next year if we decide to keep a our future first rounder, (which I think we will). 

If we manage to use 13, 27 and some other selections to move into the top 6 or 7 this year and then have two first rounders for next year to play with at a stronger draft, you can't not be excited about what that will look like.

As so many calm heads have already stated, we have no idea what the ramifications would be if we'd dug our heels in any longer. We've got it done clearly so we can concentrate on the myriad of opportunities that now lie ahead for this draft.

How about we wait until Wednesday night to reassess eh? 

Edited October 10, 2022 by JimmyGadson

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, inanunda said:

The Jackson trade points wise works out to be pick 2.

There's no way of saying that without knowing what next year's picks will be.

[layzie 33,793]

Just now, CYB said:

Oh we will remember the LJ trade when it comes time for JVR. Freo don’t have a F1 anymore so best of luck to them. 
 

Hopefully we can sign JVR for a few additional years to prevent this from occurring.

That would be very handy, done with this. 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, JimmyGadson said:

..people have no idea what the ramifications would be if we'd dug our heels in any longer.

This is really important IMO. We've got this done before the really busy part of the trade period. I think we have more coming, but even if we don't we've given ourselves plenty of time to make more opportunities.

[Jaded No More 68,880]

2 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

 

If we manage to use 13, 27 and some other selections to move into the top 6 or 7 this year and then have two first rounders for next year to play with at a stronger draft, you can't not be excited about what that will look like.

 

How do we get the Grundy deal done then?

And who would take picks 13 and 27 for pick 6?

[dazzledavey36 54,826]

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

Yeah for sure. definitely feels like that right now. I'm just holding fire til we see what happens.

We've got this done 'early' in terms of the rush of the last few days, and things change so I wouldn't be surprised if something has come up in the meantime and we're getting on with business.

 

Hoping we can move into the top 6-7.

And just to clarify, before people bite my head off, I love the work Tim Lamb has done to our list and think he's a shrewed operator.  

Just confused with his communication from the start of trade period to how it's all transpired. 

[Bates Mate 4,486]

Being out of contract also limits what you can get. I wonder if we could have been a bit more clever and have had an agreement with Jackson when he was yet to make a decision and sign him up to two with a guarantee to trade him if that's what he decided (which he did). It would have given us some more leverage. I think this could have been one instance given the circumstances  where it could have worked??

[dazzledavey36 54,826]

Anyway, all the best Jacko. 

See you at the 10 year reunion. 

[darkhorse72 1,916]

Best outcome given Freo's hand.  Lets hope them and North have [censored] years next year.

It will be interesting to see how he goes with the huge expectation on him now.

As for Bedford, great potential, but a fringe player for the top 22, didn't sent the game on fire when he did play across 4 qtrs.  So about right.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

How do we get the Grundy deal done then?

And who would take picks 13 and 27 for pick 6?

Technically 13 and 27 is worth more points than 6.

[layzie 33,793]

Just now, Lord Nev said:

This is really important IMO. We've got this done before the really busy part of the trade period. I think we have more coming, but even if we don't we've given ourselves plenty of time to make more opportunities.

There comes a point in the trade period where you have to draw the line. Unders happens, not overly thrilled about it but I'd rather a deal than no deal.